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Carlito had a controversial line, and those we spoke to claim that it wasn't planned.

During a backstage segment with Adam Pearce, Carlito quipped "I gotta learn Chinese" after IYO SKY and Kairi Sane walked out of frame. Both women are Japanese. In the case of IYO, she'd been subjected to "go back to China" comments from an audience members in the past.

The line was edited out of all digital clips, with the segment starting after his line. The claim internally from at least one staff member was that the line was not scripted, and that they had spoken to were in disbelief that it was said.

Internally, there were a number in the company that weren't happy it happened. We've not heard of any action or heat on anyone for the situation as of yet.

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Craigory

How would there not be heat on Carlito if indeed it was adlibbed

Alex Sabo

Not a good line and not a good look. Carlito might be the next victim of talent cuts.

Craigory

I'm also partly surprised wwe doesn't do all the pretapes before the show instead of live

Jamal Johnson

I just thought it was a throw away line

mohamed manaee

Part of Carlito’s current character is being dumb. But he did go far with that comment. I’ve really been enjoying his work lately I hope this doesn’t result in him being taken off tv.

Forceofwilliam

If that line was scripted, the writer needs to be fired. If Carlito went off script, he needs to be fired. There is zero excuses for that type of racist lines in any wrestling program. And don't feed me bullshit about "you wouldn't survive the Attitude Era." Just because it was allowed in the late 1990's doesn't mean it was right then either.

Marc Opps

It wasn't "controversial". It was racist.

david gardner

If that what they say I will take their word. I don’t watch WWE but from what I gather ( could be from bad sources ) ad libs are not very common practice in WWE. Someone needs to tell me if that has changed

Angel

what an idiot

Tempo1337

I'm sure he was trying to "play the idiot" here and no malice was intended, but probably best to not attempt something like that because of how it could be interpreted, and definitely not as an improv.

Daniel Beesley

Glad to know that this wasn’t something that was planned, but instead Carlito ad-libbing it.

Justmask

Have Raquel beat the shit out of him and write him out for a suspension

Stephen Bradley

Hope he didn’t mean it with any malice and apologised right after

Justin Hesse

Good thing I had fast forwarded through that entire segment. I would have been flabbergasted.

Matt Hennessy

I’m glad it wasn’t planned with all the good will the new regime built would of been disappointed if it had . I’m sure Carlito didn’t mean to cause offence & was trying to play his character which is the wacky idiot who says dumb things hopefully he learns from it in the future & does better , I’ll say this it’s 2024 & I don’t think wrestling needs to go for low hanging fruit anymore I don’t think we need to make these type of jokes or bring up wrestlers who passed away as a way to get cheap heat

Kieran Buxton

Have to admit when first saw the clip I thought this straight out the Vince “comedy” playbook. Surprised it would have got past editing afterwards not that Carlito should have said it.

Matt Hennessy

Basically when Hunter took over creative two years wrestlers where given more freedom with there promos a couple of bullet points have to be followed on the topic they are talking about but they are aloud to improvise how they get there

David C

Vince quantum leaped into Carlito’s body and delivered a 2019 classic

Matt Hennessy

WWE under the new regime aren't as strict with promos it’s not as heavily scripted as it was under Vince talent are given bullet points for a promo on what to say but are aloud to improvise how they get there. Carlito character is that’s he an idiot that says wacky things he improvised the line in his promo & it didn’t go over well

Matt Hennessy

He was suppose to talk to Pierce about Dom getting a match with Gunther but when he walked past Iyo & Kari he improvised the line about needing to learn Chines that wasn’t part of his promo or the script

Joe

Get his ass off tv

Matt Hennessy

Carlito character basically is an idiot who says wacky things & one liners. He basically improvised from talking about Dom to dropping a line about Iyo & Kairi & needing to learn Chinese. It was a dumb thing to say hopefully he learns from it and apologies

Nick O’Shea

It plays into the “carlito is a bonehead” gimmick but it didn’t help anything. Fine him and move on.

Elaquent

This was a pretape. How did nobody catch it?

Stalla

Smart to say no insensitive yes, but racist no. Not like the Undertaker who is supporting a racist and a rapist.

SlickJonny

You only say that because, judging by your profile pic, you have never been marginalized or stereotyped in your entire life, you’re lucky you have that privilege

Forceofwilliam

Hard disagree with you on this. Between HHH statement at the press event and the recent reports about what the writing room environment was like, I think a strong statement needs to be sent that they are trying to change the culture from what it was previously. A firing would be the only way to send that message.

Forceofwilliam

Are you a fucking moron? How is saying he needs to learn Chinese about a woman who speaks Japanese not racist? Especially given what Iyo has gone through previously. Unless you're saying you don't know the difference between China and Japan?

Forceofwilliam

More like human trash triggered so much they had to call others snowflakes. I hope someone bans you. Nobody needs $5 from human garbage like you.

Willie James Boyce

Don't believe it because why would he say that if it wasn't scripted because they have know what say when they are doing these segments on air

Ky W

Calling for someone's job over him trying to improvise his line is a ridiculous statement. This whole "fire everyone that says something I don't like" bs is beyond old and ridiculous. It's a person's livelihood for christ sake. They have families they need to feed too.

Chris Cobb

I don’t see anything racist about it. I always say I need to learn Spanish because I have a lot of Latino friends.

Michael Aranda

Its racist because Asians get lumped together like this all the time. The two wrestlers are Japanese not Chinese. Yet we are always lumped into "Asian" or "Chinese".

Keith Kripke

I took it as Carlito being ignorant on purpose wanting a "Omg..what a moron, they are Japanese" type reply.

Forceofwilliam

If you went around making racist comments at your job, I don't think your boss would care about your livelihood and the family you have to feed. If you don't want to lose you job, don't be a racist. Simple enough?

Joseph Cloud

This is, no hyperbole; the stupidest possible response to this. Unless you were taking to Brazilians, saying “I should learn Spanish” to a Latino is not remotely offensive. There are two primary Chinese languages, neither of which is “Chinese”. Both women speak only Japanese and English. Regardless of what you think of the segment; this really fucking isn’t it. You just sound sumpremely ignorant.

Joseph Cloud

Also, there is no language called “Chinese”. It’s primarily either mandarin or Cantonese.

Joseph Cloud

I thought it he idea was it buys into him being a moron, but it didn’t work and shouldn’t have happened because the benefit is almost zero and the detriment is significant.

Joseph Cloud

💯 the intent wasn’t there to be offensive, but that doesn’t mean it wasn’t stupid and offensive.

RegisC

People today are so sensitive. 😂

Troy A Palek

If only we lived in a world that was THAT simple... nobody would have jobs. I promise you have said something that someone considered racist at some point and I'm betting you weren't fired immediately

Forceofwilliam

I probably have, but I'm also not on worldwide television either. You do get the different scope of scale of this, right?

Troy A Palek

Indeed I do. Major difference is neither of us are playing a character so I'd argue what we have likely said was worse on the "scale" or scope

Forceofwilliam

So because he is playing a character, he gets to make what appears to be an ad libbed racist comment with no consequences. Sounds like you're someone who rationalizes their own use of racist comments.

Allyssa Golden

I need everyone in these comments to learn what a "microaggression" is. My lord.

CSDX

Just cause you're right about Undertaker doesn't mean you're right about Carlito's comment.

CSDX

Maybe this is why Carlito never got to win a world title in WWE.

Daniel Schein

He's a heel, and thus an A hole character. What a silly thing to be upset about. I can't imagine how you would cope with a 90's heel promo. I tended to take the line as more him (the character) being a buffoon anyways. I have seen Scott Steiner call people fat pigs, Jeff Jarrett throw tortillas at the crowd, and Bubba Ray Dudley getting some crazy heat by saying even worse things. At the end of the day it's all part of the goofy fun world of pro wrestling. You guys ruin things by being overly sensitive and taking offense at absolutely everything. From heels being heels, to flipping out over anything even remotely sexual or raunchy in a storyline. If you cave to all the overly sensitive fans, WWE gets as bland as an episode of Sesame Street. If Carlos the man said something like that to them of course you address it, but good lord guys it's a fictional character you're suppose to dislike.

Troy A Palek

Wrong, im not much into trying to rationalize words. Mostly cuz I DGAF what people think regardless of their race, gender, etc. It was a live segment, shit happens. Someone losing their livelihood over it is peak insanity. Cuz, again, we would ALL be unemployed and broke. I own a few sports retail stores, you know the most frequent question I hear when a parent or spouse who isn't a fan is buying a jersey for one who is? Its "this player isn't black right"? Should all those people be fired as well? That slope isn't slippery, its actually invisible and you fall immediately when trying to step on it.

Forceofwilliam

So because a bunch of people who come in to your stores are awful people (which furthers my previous theory that you try to rationalize your own racist conments), we should just turn a blind eye to it. Words mean things and have consequences. Have I ever said something insensitive? Yes. Have I learned from it and don't do it in now? Yes. Stop condoning and turning a blind eye to bad behavior.

Forceofwilliam

Also, I realize you basically gave the HHH answer in your latest reply, further proving my point. Just because you are cool with racist comments doesn't mean it is okay.

Troy A Palek

Agreed, some of them are likely terrible people. Some of them are oblivious. Point being if we only did business with people who didn't say racist shit on occasion we would have no business cuz there would be no people. So let's test your "morals"... if you owned a business like i do and customers came in and asked that you would definitely IMMEDIATELY kick them out and not sell to them correct? I think triple h is a terrible person and I can name at least 4 in EVERY company that are so, by your words, neither of us should be a wrestling fan at all correct?

Forceofwilliam

You're asking the wrong question. Of course, I would sell to them while judging them for their racist comments. If they were belligerent and racist towards my employees or to other customers, I would kick them out in a heartbeat and not sale to them. The better question would be if an employee said a racist comment in front of a bunch of other employees and customers, would you turn a blind eye to it or would you address it?

weremound

I would cope just fine from a 90s heel promo if it were the 90s. But it is no longer the 90s. Different things are accepted and unaccepted than 30 years ago, as they are 60, 90, 2000 years ago. Just because you weren't offended doesn't mean the people who were are overly sensitive. I haven't even seen anyone say anything bad about Carlito, only "that wasn't a cool thing for him to say."

Justmask

I didn’t say they HAD to suspend him, it was just an idea, I think a fine or just an apology would suffice, I just meant in the context of if that were the route they went. Don’t call other people soft just because you lack empathy for the experiences and treatment of people different than you.

Forceofwilliam

If you don't see a problem with what was said, you're a racist piece of shit and horrible human being. I will take being soft over either one of those.

Troy A Palek

I'd address it immediately . What i wouldn't do is fire them immediately, which is what you said to start this thread.

Forceofwilliam

Okay, what if your company had a known history of racist employees and you are trying to change the culture and image of the company and this employee made racist comments. After being seen as weak on matters of racism in the past, you wouldn't fire them? Because that's what WWE is facing right now.

Troy A Palek

I wouldn't say he is soft. Delusional... sure. Misguided... Definitely. Not entirely sure what you were trying to accomplish by accusing at least 3 different commenters of being "soft" but have at it if it makes you feel better I suppose

Daniel Schein

I think much of this is an internet thing. Your average joe sitting on his couch isn't flipping his lid over a goofy line from a boneheaded henchman character. Also, accepted/unaccepted by who? Nobody gets to decide what that is for the rest of the fanbase. If you try and make art that's inoffensive to anybody you get a bland product that's appealing to nobody. Again not dying on the hill for this goofy line from a comedy character, but I think Triple H and TKO need to start standing their ground and not cave to every negative reaction.

Troy A Palek

No, cuz my company's history has nothing to do with my stores. If that person had such a history then you fire them immediately . Blanket firing is rarely the answer, and if it was the actual right answer then you start at (or at least better include) the management level

Forceofwilliam

I think, at this point, it is clear we are not going to agree. I think given HHH's comments about how he doesn't see color when talking about black wrestlers leaving a bad taste in everyone's mouths, the recent news about the racist and sexist culture that was occurring in the writer's room, and now this incident, something more substantial than a fine is warranted. If TKO and WWE are serious about changing the culture, a message of not tolerating this has to be sent and I personally don't think a fine or a short suspension is going to signal a culture change.

Troy A Palek

Thats fair. Good chat. We disagree respectfully, what a concept . Have a good night.