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CM Punk and Jack Perry had an altercation backstage at AEW All In.

Details are few and far between at the moment, but we have learned that Jack Perry and CM Punk had an altercation shortly before CM Punk went to the ring for his AEW All In match. Jack Perry was on right before him, and did a spot on a car window, and said "it's real glass, cry me a river." This was a shot at Punk, who had a confrontation at an AEW Collision taping this Summer over Perry's insistence on using real glass for a spot on the show. We're told Perry wasn't happy with how the situation was relayed publicly by those close to Punk.

We have learned the following regarding Punk's side of things, which claims that Jack Perry approached CM Punk backstage and "stepped in his face" and "bumped" Punk. Punk was said to have then pushed Perry. Perry allegedly "came at Punk and got choked." We haven't heard of a particular kind of choke or who broke things up. Please note this is only one side of the story, and more details will emerge.

Miro has claimed the Punk side of the story "was fake and untrue," and other versions allege that Punk threw a punch and that Punk stepped to Perry first. Other accounts claim that Punk initiated things. They exchanged words, Punk got in Perry's face and pie faced him. Punk allegedly grabbed Perry in a front face lock and it was broken up.

PWInsider has reported that Jack Perry was sent away from the venue and CM Punk was still at Wembley for a time. Eventually Punk was also asked to leave. Wrestling Observer claims that they were removed by security.

We've reached out to both CM Punk and Jack Perry for their sides.

To clear up a misconception regarding their prior argument and "Perry trying to not come to work the next week," we're told he had a pre-planned and approved vacation.

Tony Khan confirmed the altercation and said an investigation was going on.

Comments

Terps

*AEW goes one week without locker room drama challenge*

Marc Lopez

This is such a bummer.

lennon human

funniest company in wrestling history

Busby

Phil cannot help himself

Myles

CM Punk really cried him a river lol

Kevin U. Reyes Rivera

My first reaction when Jack Perry said that was “wonder what CM Punk is gonna think”. Not surprised this was it🫠

Russell Sanderson

Punk is the most fragile human being ever. Holy shit.

Jordan Anders

Every single day, “I work with children” proves to be more and more true.

UntoldUnknown

Man y'all remember whenever AEW was all kumbaya backstage and shit? That Honeymoon period lasted so damn long.

Cody

Seems to me that Jack Perry acted like a petulant child during his match. What a dumb thing to do! I’m sure CM Punk will be made into the bad guy again though.

falcon ⚡️

why did jack start the beef this time lmao

John Horton

Can Punk not go one day without being a petty little bitch causing drama?

Deon Giambarto

Probably an unpopular opinion but I cannot stand punk and his nonsense

steve

Come on

Zach James

Jack Perry being a child based on this report

Eric Hoglund

One common denominator in every physical fight at aew

Matt Bird

cm punk quit being a bitch challenge level impossible

Philip Scharmach

A lot of passive aggressive shit. These guys think they can say shit and not answer for it. Punk is old school, if you are going to run your mouth, prepare to answer the bell. Remember, Punk worked in a locker room that was run by the Undertaker.

Forceofwilliam

What a shocker? Punk got physical with someone after they said something they shouldn't. Good think TK didn't give Punk his own Saturday show or anything or there might not be consequences for a problem maker like Punk. Oh wait...

Jahwan Wishardt

This is hilarious at this point 😂😂😂😂

Castigear

My wife works with children. She doesn’t scream at them and beat the shit out of them. Rookies act stupid. Vets should be better. I’m a Punk fan, but damn.

Drew Quesada

Punk needs thicker skin and Jack Perry doesn't need to be so damn petty.

Marcos

TK don’t got balls to get rid of punk

Nostradamvs

Childish Jack Perry throwing a tantrum about not being able to potentially severely hurt himself two weeks before the company's biggest PPV now being childish backstage is childish. Grow up.

Justin Ackley

How do you keep someone in your company who repeatedly gets physical with others? It’s embarrassing.

Robert Yanes

Working with kids, Brawl out scrum gets proven right with every day that passes.

thaddperkins

Accountancy she was that it was unsafe to use real glass and that is worth the argument was about initially. Everybody was on punk’s side. And from what it sounds like, Perry started this too.

The Lane Family

Challenging 2 twinks to a fight was too much trouble last time, this time he was sure to only fight one twink.

Eric Hoglund

Bro, adults don't get into fist fights. He's the one acting like a child who doesn't have full control

Craft Dinner

The one constant in all of these situations is CM Punk. I loved that Perry said what he did. Punk reacting just proves how thin-skinned Punk is. Simple as that.

John Horton

Most adults do not take innocuous comments personally like a fucking child. Since when has Jack Perry ever created drama? Who is always at the center of this backstage shitshow?

Benjamin Howard

If you run into an asshole in the morning, you ran into an asshole. If you run into assholes all day, you're the asshole.

Marshall Enloe

He got mad cause Punk didn't want him doing indie bullshit. If he wants to cut himself up with real glass he can go to GCW and do it with the drug addicted bank robber

Kyle Sizemore

That guy needs to go tho I doubt aew will do anything

John Horton

If the fragile egomaniac thinks he's working with "kids", maybe the geezer should retire.

Bale

If you find yourself constantly getting into fights with children maybe you need to consider who is the one acting like a kid

Assblaster from Tremors 3 (Back to Perfection)

Could you imagine if the current internet/Twitter existed during the Monday Night Wars? We’d be hearing shit 10x worse than this on a daily basis. It’s a contact sport with lots of egos and politicking. I’m surprised shit doesn’t pop off way more than it does. Look at every other sport. Even friends and teammates knock heads every once in a while.

Philip Scharmach

Because he confronted a kid for talking shit? Sorry, no thats called standing up for yourself and being a man. If you're going to talk shit, do it to someones face.

Marshall Enloe

Maybe Jack Perry should realize this isn't an indie promotion and start being a professional wrestler

General Kenobi

Phil just mad about everything. Jesus

Philip Scharmach

The bucks rushed Punks locker room, sounds here like Perry was the instigator. So Punk is supposed to not defend himself, and be a passive aggressive pussy? Sorry, but no, standing up, confronting childish "talent" is fine by me.

Justmask

Lmao this was Perry’s fault

Shannon Shonio

Why am I not surprised about Punk putting his nose in other’s business? He can’t just be nice for once. That man needs to go far, far away.

John Agostini

TK: “1 week without any locker room incidents” CM Punk: “Hold my Pepsi…”

Castigear

As someone else said, if you encounter an asshole, then you just encountered an asshole. If you encounter an asshole multiple times a day, you’re the asshole.

Kevin D

Jack Perry: 2 minutes for instigating

Marshall Enloe

A lot of fucking cry babies cause Punk just said real glass is a bad idea, watch GCW if you want that bullshit

Philip Scharmach

Thin skinned, how about you look at it from the other angle. Instead of Perry being a man and talking to Punk face to face like a man, he wants to go out and make a little snotty comment on TV. Thats the passive aggressive shit thats in the AEW locker room. Perry ran his mouth and had to answer for it.

Marc

I find Phil to be as exhausting as the next guy, but I think this is a work. Backstage cancer starting to become part of Punk's gimmick + Jack needs all the help he can get to seem edgy

rocksolid124

An altercation backstage in a pro wrestling locker room? That never happens! Oh wait.

NateF_81

Just let the dumbass use "real" glass when he doesn't have to.

Philip Scharmach

Times change? So being passive aggressive and running your mouth on socials or on TV is all good. Sorry, but this is pro wrestling. If you have an issue talk it out or fight ot out like men.

Philip Scharmach

So you admit someone said something they shouldn't but you dont agree with Punk settling it like a man? Hmmmm

Alexander Fitzgerald

People blaming Punk for this are idiots. That report that came out a few weeks ago it wasn't just Punk, it was also medical staff and Tony Schiavone telling Jack not to use real glass.

Forceofwilliam

So you're saying the only way to handle a conflict is getting physical? How stupid are you?

kidfavre4

Same crowd who think he’s a p*ssy because he lost to literal professional fighters in UFC.

DiscoDinomite

Understandable jack perry is still a kid, Phil is just a prick. If Phil was an adult he would've just said "good for you" instead of getting in a fight.

John Horton

Where exactly are you coming up with that bullshit that he knocked out the Bucks and Perry? Absolutely nobody reported that. And how many people did Punk knock out in his MMA career? Oh yeah, nobody. He got his ass kicked every time.

Craft Dinner

You ignored at least a third of what I said. The one constant in all of these situations is CM Punk. There is evidence of this going back years. I'm not even talking specifically about AEW. I don't really care who started it. All of these situations escalate into some sort of altercation, violence, or Punk just noping out like a child. It's always him. Always. I don't need to "look at it from the other angle". I don't hate Punk. I hate that he acts like a whiny little bitch all the time. It's tiresome. Adults approach conflict like adults. Children scream, cry, and throw hands.

Dylan Dutch

The more I hear of Punk, the more he sounds like a baby with a fragile ego

Mike

Kind of weird to have an altercation over. Auto glass is designed not to shatter like regular glass.

Anthony M

Once again Punk acting like a child, I’m so sick of this dude

Craft Dinner

That's not why he's being blamed. He's getting the grief because it's a constant thing with him. If Jack wouldn't listen then that needed to be addressed. I absolutely agree with that. But the messenger does matter. Punk, after last year, ain't solvin' shit.

Joshua G

Time to cut the losses with Punk. He’s an absolute cancer.

Mike Wall

Unreal. Perry may have instigated, but Punk needs to go. It sure doesn't seem like he moves the needle enough anymore to be worth all these headaches.

Jake Salazar

Stop being a bunch of sad loser wusses. It’s wrestling. Let them hash it out

CMRN

Punk is so fragile

A

Well we heard of CM Punks side of the story. I wonder what Jack side will say.

Justmask

Even after the update it sounds like a child (Perry) bit off more than he could chew and got what he deserved

S B

Why Perry came at him, granted this is 1 side of the story but based on this info you can't say punk is an absolute cancer!

Lauren McKlemurry

Punk has low impulse control and nobody seems to care. If someone making one clap back over something that was relayed out to the world by your pals and your response is to attack them and not, I don’t know, talk it out like a grown ass adult it’s time to reassess yourself

Brandon Souza

Jack Perry is so soft man. Such a wimp.

Tucker

If this is true it sounds like Jack started it

Vince Baehr

All of you people claiming this is some how punk being a 'jerk' are paint chip eating weirdos. For real. How is it punk's fault when a child approaches him then gets choked? Sounds like Karma.

Forceofwilliam

This situation is why Punk should have never gotten involved with the Jack Perry situation. Punk can't control his own emotions to handle a situation like this.

Lauren McKlemurry

Perry wasn’t putting his hands on him you goofball. If your reaction to someone just saying something is to throw hands something is wrong with your character. Being an adult means knowing how to handle situations without resorting to violence all the time.

Manwithbeard9

Yeah that update doesn't sound believable at all. Similar to first reports of what happened at Brawl Out.

Brandon Hildebrandt

Punk has done far more harm than good with his actions at AEW, but as the story stands it sounds more like Jack Perry was the one in the wrong here. Edit: And, as more sides start chiming in, sounds like Punk was possibly the wrong one again. Good lord.

Adam Deutsch

Jack trying to finish what Punk started. Both seem at fault.

Lauren McKlemurry

The Undertaker handled things like a diplomat to prevent fights, not tell people to jump folks over every little thing they said. Grow up.

D93mac

Was unlikely but not implausible until the choke update was added, we’ve seen Punk’s ground game calling bullshit on that lol

Philip Scharmach

Knocked out the Bucks, choked out Jack Perry. May be 0-2 in UFC, but he's 2-0 in AEW

Utkarsh Vivek

So it was jack perry who initaited it

rocksolid124

So in other words, Perry was in the wrong. It also doesn't seem like a big deal at all. But I'm sure people online will pretend it's monumental.

Philip Scharmach

Funny how you say that when it what Alvarez, Meltzer and Bucks camp leaking everything at the Brawl Out. Like how we have "camps" all the time. This report she be taken as a witness to the events that occurred and what was seen.

Nicholas Bailey

Lmaooo Punk beat the shit out that boy 🔥🔥🔥

Ryan Rockwell

This is 1000% the "Punk side." You can tell by how everything relayed here has zero blame or aggression or fault whatsoever on him, and everything is Perry's fault.

Ryan Rockwell

@kidfavre4 He didn't lose to "literal professional fighters" lol, he lost to a photographer. Mike Jackson's fight against Punk was literally his "professional debut" with his only previous fight being a LOSS in amateur competition 7 years prior. He was intended to give Punk a chance at an actual win, and was the only fight Jackson ever won aside from getting a DQ win after an eye gouge.

Tamba

Punk is 100% in the right on this one lol

Doogie

It was a cringe moment but Punk needs to laugh dumb stuff like that off and just get over it. Dude needs serious therapy. Perry also needs to grow up.

UntoldUnknown

The vibes were starting to get weird before he got there but him arriving there kinda boosted things up for a little while. And we know what happened after that lol.

Noir

I know people that hate punk will make him the villain here. But if Perry went up to him and started this. That's on Perry. Punk should be able to defend himself

Philip Scharmach

Just like how Punks locker room got rushed by the Bucks 11 months ago. I guess self defense is allowed anymore

Joel Allison

That’s all on Jack and sounds like he got punked lol.

Troy A Palek

Sorry SRS. Good for select subs but I know you hated covering Brawl Out OG

The Lane Family

Punk is totally innocent in every single fight he winds up in, it's everyone else in the world who is wrong and bad.

Drew Knab

cm punk de-escalate a minor disagreement, challenge level: impossible

Siege Hann

Perry shoulder checked Punk, Punk pushed him off and Perry came in and got choked… explain how Punk caused this…

Jarvis Villasenor

Jesus man after the past few days of us united to celebrate two legends that passed away we are already at each other's throats? Today should've been a day to enjoy and celebrate great wrestling the thing that Bray and Funk loved more than anything not this...

Andreas Bryhn

Punk is made of glass. In every way

Philip Scharmach

Jack Perry was sent home, Punk is still at the stadium. PWI Insider is reporting. Says all you need to know about who started the confrontation.

The Mayor Pete

send them both home. not just one of them.

David C

Another way of looking at it is that Punk could quite literally murder the entire locker room and Tony would shrug and allow it.

Bryan

Jack doesn't look good in this situation.

Brian Carpenter

You could absolutely CM Punk was pissed when he walked out.

David C

He is the common denominator in about 90% of the bullshit at AEW over the last year and a half.

JoshB17

As Sean says this is only one side of the story and very clearly the story from Punks side.

Matt Hennessy

Both guys are in the wrong for it. Jack for approaching Punk at before the start of the show & Punk for getting into another physical altercation. He apologies to Tony Khan for the situation last year & is putting him into the same situation again a year later. I also think blame goes to Tony this Punk drama has been going on since after last year double or nothing & he still hasn’t dealt with Punk. While I ain’t taking sides in the situation Punk seems to be the common denominator in all these situations. If I’m TK I’m suspending Jack & firing Punk

James Kruse

Even if I was young, cocky and strong like Perry I would not step to Punk in any way. Dude gives no fucks and will always step out if provoked. Maybe just try and talk it out next time instead.

Andrew Owsiak

This press conference post show is gonna be LIT

kidfavre4

Wrong. Also he still spent 8 years training to fight before making his debut in the ufc against Mickey Gall. He’d dog walk any of the AEW or WWE roster who haven’t seriously trained real martial arts, boxing or wrestling.

CSDX

WWE presents The Rise and Fall of AEW: When the Ego of Punk Goes Unchecked.

Forceofwilliam

Yeah, the latter story sounds much more likely based on the preponderance of the evidence. Also, Miro about to get banned from Collision for telling the truth.

Ian Henry

Imagine getting choked out by CM Punk lol

Joel Allison

Ah the Anti Punk propaganda machine working overtime.

Miss Laura Maria

Punk gets the special treatment again? Kahn should’ve sent both home. What a shit show.

Alex

What's amazing is how many of you are brainwashed into thinking these children working for AEW can do no wrong. Punk is right on this one. If Perry is gonna get in his face about it, this is what he gets.

Terps

Lmao so this time Jack Perry CLEARLY STARTS IT, and people still fuckin regurgitate tired "CM PUNK IS THE ENEMY" talking points, as if straight from Meltzer's own damn mouth lololololol

Forceofwilliam

It isn't hard when Punk is a petulant child who can't control his emotions, but don't let that stop you from sucking him off as hard as you possibly can.

Forceofwilliam

Yes, because when I want to start a fight, I bring lawyers with me. You're one dumb mofo if you think they rushed Punk's lockerroom to start a fight.

Drew Knab

brother is over 40 years old and works for an international multi million dollar company that pulls 80k attendants, yeah he should chill on escalating every confrontation into a fight for fucks sake

Forceofwilliam

Yes, because physical violence is how we should handle conflict in 2023. You're one dumb mofo.

rocksolid124

Meanwhile, I'm over here thinking, correctly, that fights happen in pro wrestling locker rooms and aren't a big deal.

Orlando Morales

I just subbed to fightful for this info lol

Cody Berntsen

Waiting until we hear more of the full story before giving an opinion one way or the other. But thanks for the work on this SRS!

BC_Auron

Why schedule their matches back to back...

Colton Foster

Miro isn't exactly credible. He also denied all the reports about not wanting to lose and yet he was gone for, what, a year?

Alex

So if someone starts a physical altercation with me I have no right to hit back? Got it. Thanks for the heads up.

David

other outlets are saying other sides are disputing that. one says punk started it by pie-facing perry, and another one even says punk physically went out of his way to go after perry. the post above said that this is just one side of the story, and it appears to be punk's side. also, the above article indicates that punk was the one who choked perry, not the other way around.

David

getting physical with someone is not "settling things like a man." it is literally the most childish thing you can do.

Doogie

Perry stooped to Punk's level with his spot in the match. I'm saying Punk should have just laugh that off and let it go. No reason to confront him backstage right when he gets back to Guerrilla after his match, which lead to this. Talk to him later. Focus on his match that is next. Be the veteran in the situation. I'm not defending Perry. But Punk is ready to fight over everything and that's just too toxic to have in the locker room of professional wrestling. If Perry started the physical altercation, he should be suspended. Same if Punk started it. If this is the way things happened, only Perry should be suspended but the truth remains Punk is toxic.

William Rosmer

If that's your point of view then those people shouldn't have asked him to get involved and handled it themselves. But honestly job safety is everyone's responsibility. If you see someone about to do something stupid with a high risk of self injury you should tell them that and not wait for management to do it.

Bryan Crawford

Going back to the original incident it sounds like Perry wants out and is trying to forge that to happen.

Sokun Ros

Why are people blaming Punk for this? At least wait until we get more info first

Sokun Ros

If this story is correct, Jack came at Punk first. So what should Punk do? Not defense himself and get hit?

Forceofwilliam

Evidence from a credible source please? That has never been reported by Fightful so I'm assuming you're pulling it out of your ass.

Forceofwilliam

According to the latest reports, it was Punk who started it...again. The initial reports were obviously leaked by Punk, Miro came out and said it wasn't true, and then the later reports came out that Punk instigated it.

Forceofwilliam

So because something was okay in the 1990s, it is a good idea for if to be continued today? This mentality is how Bruiser Brody was killed, dumbass. We (Or at least most of us as a society) have advanced in the past 30 years.

rocksolid124

Humors me that you read this, don't know the full story, and think you can draw conclusions. You aren't backstage, so stop pretending that you have a clue.

Forceofwilliam

What other info do you need? Initial reports said that Perry bumped into Punk triggering a physical altercation where Punk choked out Perry (As if Punk could choke out a child, much less Perry. If you watch his MMA career, you would know that's not true.), Miro tweeted that initial report was false, then new reports emerged that Punk started the fight, to the surprise of no one.

Sokun Ros

Yet no one can prove that any of the stories above is in fact the real one. So why are people jumping to conclusions as if they were there infront of Punk and Jack?

kbx

ace steel fightful podcast really paying dividends for y’all’s street cred here🙄

Forceofwilliam

It's called preponderance of the evidence. Punk certainly isn't choking anybody out so that side of the story is clearly wrong. Punk also most likely instigated the fight given he instigated the fight with the Elite too.

Dimentex

Exactly. I completely agree that from the sounds of it Perry started this shit. That said, be the fucking adult in the room.

Michael Roughley

How do you feel about writing this since the updates indicating it was very likely Punk the one who started this shit 😂

Forceofwilliam

Yes, I know when I have already planned week off from work that I will get injured purposely to make sure I get my already planned time off work. You're a moron.

Talk About Your Psalms Talk About John 3 16 Femboy 3 16 Says I Just Licked Your Ass

This is Tonys fault. He’s a mark and has no ability to manage the talent in his own company. This shit happens every month, if not weekly now since Punk has been back and it’s apparent that he believes he’s above reproach. Even if this was started by Jack by bumping Punk, he escalated the situation instead of being a leader, as he has claimed to be (and been made fun of for it by actual locker room leaders) and brought in HR or TR to settle this supposed dispute. Punk will go thru anyone he deems unworthy and Tony is left holding the pieces because the little TK inside him is living his dream and ignoring it being destroyed around him.

Terps

I have little doubt that Jungle boy started this during his match by taking a shot, and now we have TWO sources saying he bumped into Punk on his way out. What's Jungle Boy going to do, slap Punk? He weighs 30 pounds. That's the funniest thing in all of this. Remember all those reports about Jungle Boy being difficult to deal with and snobby/apathetic around fans a few months ago? From the looks of it, you're someone who probably pretends those are false!

Philip Scharmach

Punk is the number 1 merch seller, he pops the rating any show he is on, he sells tickets, these are all facts and why as you put it "Tony deals with him". You also mentioned AEW being must see...their best year ever in terms of TV Ratings, PPV sales and overall gross was Punks first years in the company. I know a lot of you want it to be ALL FRIENDS WRESTLING again, but its not. Its a business and he's a talent that draws money and eyed and sells merch.

Philip Scharmach

Because so many people here and other places only believe Meltzer and the Buckaroos. Its funny how brainwashed a segment of the audience is.

Sokun Ros

Again, how do you know what you are saying is a fact exactly? Punk is a trained MMA fighter and is a wrestler so how come he doesn’t know how to do a simple choke? And are we forgetting that the Elite were the ones who went to Punk’s locker room, knocked on his door, and confronted him?

Philip Scharmach

Even when get more info its going to be a he said/she said type thing. The Buckaroos crew will blame Punk, the Punk crew will blame Perry. Honestly, its tue fucking wrestling business and fights happen. This shit happens all the time but a segment of the audience acts offended beyong belief

Philip Scharmach

So suspend a guy who draws not ratings and sells no merch, over the guys who pops ratings, is your to merch seller and moves tickets? The common denominator is Punk and the reason why is because he confronts people on their shit. Thats his style. Punk defending himself if the story of Perry making the first move is accurate is not his fault. If a guy gets in your face, be prepared to fight

Philip Scharmach

Thats exactly how Perry should have handled it. Why not approach Punk and just ask to talk? This is what happened with the Bucks shit last year. The released passive aggressive bullshit in the media to their boy Meltzer and we got the brawl out. If you have something to say, say it to someones face. Punk seems to have made that very clear since he came back, yet we have more passive aggressive bullshit.

@p_wol

Jack Perry is living the gimmick. A dude with attitude.

Philip Scharmach

I'll put it out there, anyone who sided with the Bucks a year ago, or is siding with Perry here has never been in a fight in their life or had ever had to be. TK is a person to blame for all this shit because he has no control over his team. He allows them to talk and spread shit to dirt sheets. When he seems a problem or sees a situation where a moderated conversation needs to be had, he doesn't do anything. The reason this shit doesn't or happens limitedly in WWE is because of the leadership group running the show. TK and his leadership do nothing by the looks of it. But also, this is the wrestling business, people are going to fight, people are going to disagree, shit happens

Colton Foster

You seem super smart, but, um, maybe do a simple Google search before being an asshole (or just refrain from being an asshole). SRS has spoken about this many times. "According to the latest Fightful Select report, Miro is "healthy and ready to go", but there is still a hang-up on the creative end. While no details were given, it seems that he's still not reached the middle ground with AEW's creative, which is why he has been off television up until this point." Miro denied this and SRS stood by the report.

Forceofwilliam

I don't know how you can read "not reached the middle ground with AEW's creative" and think that means "not wanting to lose". Maybe he didn't like the angle they pitched for him. You're making the conjecture that means he didn't want to lose.

Forceofwilliam

I've never had to be in a fight as an adult because I don't go around instigating people and I can control my emotions. I will agree that TK is to blame though. He should have fired Punk and not given him his own show after the All Out media scrum, much less after Brawl Out. I expect adults to act like adults and not get physical with people after someone makes a comment during a promo or during a match.

Philip Scharmach

Also enjoy the "Fire Punk" group. I would never trust you to run a business. You are not going to fire your top merch mover, you weekly to quarter hour draw on a new show, your ticket moving talent. The financials don't lie when it comes to Punk and AEW, he makes them shit loads of money and brings eyes to the product. That stands true to his first year in the company and stands true to his last 3 months back. I know these forums have a lot of ELITE fans, but they dont draw, the TV numbers and ticket sales on shows they headline prove that. MJF, Punk and Daniels on have been the movers for the past 18 months. TK new what he was getting in Punk, Punk has never minced his words, he stands up for himself, he voices his opinion and he will stand up for himself, thats been known for years. And a final point, this wasnt even a fight, this sounds like some yelling, a couple shoves, and a headlock, this is a nothing burger.

Philip Scharmach

Also will highlight that Perry was the one sent home after all this. So whatever story Tony heard clearly puts Perry in the wrong as he was told to leave.

Colton Foster

Perhaps SRS can/will clarify. Or, you know, you could stop pretending like you know more than everyone else. Whatever the case, Miro denied the report and SRS stood by it. Take it up with him.

Forceofwilliam

I mean, if he destroys your locker room and employee morale, how much money he brings in is negligible. I would rather make a little less than keep someone who has been described as a cancer.

Philip Scharmach

From the accounts, Perry was the instigator, and Punk was defending himself. And TK didn't fire Punk because Punk is his cash cow and makes TK a shit ton of money. Also, its been well proven that the Bucks were the ones who rushed into Punks locker room. So while Punk did voice his opinion at the media scrum, it was the Bucks from most accounts that rushed the locker room. I have no issue with a talent confronting another talent about something that was said or done. I think we'd all prefer something that didn't get physical, but it happene. Its the wrestling business and its been happening since its inception.

Forceofwilliam

Cause TK is weak when it comes to Punk. If TK had a backbone, he would have told Punk to shut the hell up at the All Out media scrum. Keep living in your fantasy world where Punk is always right though.

Forceofwilliam

Yes, because when I want to rush someones locker room and start a fight with someone, I make sure to swing by the lawyers office and bring them with me as a witness. You and Joel Allison are so far up Punk's ass that you haven't seen the sun for years. Also, Miro said the initial reports were wrong and other reports have come out that said Punk started it. The second reports have been out for hours, but you ignore it because it doesn't fit your Punk can do no wrong narrative.

Ryan Cremeans

So does Punk not understand other people can wink and nod at the audience without it being a shot at him? Or does he assume he's the only one with that gimmick?

Doogie

According to another side of the report. There's been no definitive version yet just what has been relayed from different sources that provide two different versions of what happened.

Philip Scharmach

I'm not even a huge Punk fan, I can look objectively at the situation. Your comment about the lawyer is also incorrect, as it was an initial narrative that she was brought with Bucks, that narrative has since changed as she was just in the vicinity of the fight and saw it go down. If the Bucks story was the "truth" and their top legal counsel saw everything, Punk would not be on your screen today.

Philip Scharmach

Also, the initial narrative reported by PWIInsider, was the Miro side of tue story. 45 minutes later PWI Insider released an updated version that stated the more prevalent narrative they were hearing from talents was that Perry was the instigator. Sapp, reported that version as that os what he heard and he later heard the initial other side later in the afternoon. Also based on who was sent home and who was allowed to stay at the show should tell you plenty about who was the instigator.

Robert Lyle

Really sad that during a week where 1.) The wrestling world had 2 deaths (one way to early) and 2.) AEW has a history making event; these grown men can't keep from acting like little kids in a sandbox!!!

Wizard Of Smoke

Yall being so worked. Punk is the best in the business, i hate him so much :)

David Feig

I just hope Larry is ok

Philip Scharmach

PWI Insider initially reported the Miro version, 45 min later updated their story saying that they were hearing from more talent that was around and Perry was the instigator. The "scrum" was also reportedly happening very close to Tony and he may have even witnessed it. Like I said in a previous post, Perry was the one sent home and Punk was allowed to stay, which should speak volumes on who management felt was the aggressor.

Daniel Rafferty

What did Jack Perry think was going to happen?

Brian

sounds like after Punks match he was also told to leave :) and miro already claimed punk side of the story is a lie.

Miss Laura Maria

If the Punk side of the story is true (the story has been updated), than no, a self declared locker room leader should act in a de-escalating manner, not start throwing punches or choking people. The story was originally reported as Perry bumped into Punk. If that is true no. Had Perry threw the first punch than yes, you can and should defend yourself.

The Lane Family

I can't believe Jungle Boy superkicked Larry

Forceofwilliam

In previous times, you would have been hired by a king as a jester for being the town idiot until he got tired of you and he cut your head off. Only being called a dumbass by a random internet person for your moronic opinion is advancement.

Forceofwilliam

Larry can't travel internationally due to the fact he has warrants. Larry is the hardest member of the Punk family and shows it regularly.

David Hensel

Don't start none. Won't be none. Jack Perry did the spot with the glass and proved Punk right, cutting himself and Hook all to shit. Regardless of what happened after that, it was a still a stupid idea to use real glass. Whoever approved that should be embarrassed, ashamed, and should step down from having any involvement in putting together these matches.

Forceofwilliam

So Punk was sent home after his match, but, once again, you ignore anything that makes Punk look bad. Also, if TK didn't fire Punk for the scrum for making the company look bad and for Brawl Out, what makes you think he would fire him if the lawyer was brought by the Bucks to begin with. TK clearly wants to say he has Punk on his roster at AEW and doesn't give two shits what Punk does to the detriment of his entire locker room. You can say you're looking at it objectively. I can say you're full of shit based on your other comments in this thread.

Forceofwilliam

I'm nice to people who don't post moronic shit like you did. You turned an incident where Punk claimed Jack was trying to take a week off when Jack already had time off to begin with and tried to flip it into Jack Perry wanting out entirely. If you say stupid shit, don't get upset when people call you a moron.

Forceofwilliam

It's called preponderance of the evidence. There is two sides, but given Punk's history, I am more inclined to believe the report that Punk started it. If you're so far up Punk's ass that you can't logically put 2 and 2 together, you can believe his report.

Forceofwilliam

Jesus, I'm shocked you had time to write a whole paragraph while throwing Punk's meat down your throat. Adults in 2023 don't handle conflicts by getting physical, but keep blowing Punk.

Forceofwilliam

PREPONDERANCE. I know a word longer than 4 letters is hard for you Punk marks, but look it up. Previous evidence points to clearly one side being correct and you know what side it is.

Forceofwilliam

Punk marks for nearly an entire year at this point. Third worst cult after Trump and Cornette.

Vince Baehr

Adults also don't openly mock people in public, not in front of them to avoid getting pie faced. There is that old motto "Talk shit, get hit".

matthew underwood

If you run into an asshole in the morning, you ran into an asshole. If you run into assholes all day, youre the asshole.

Alice Hoffman

Honest question here. When Eddie Kingston pie-faced Sammy Guevara, didn’t he end up with a suspension and anger management classes?

Sokun Ros

Mate, I ain’t a fan of CM Punk, at least not since a few years ago. I just call it as I see it. But you can’t use something that have yet to be proven as fact as the basis of your argument. That is call opinion, or speculation, not something to be used as a “preponderance”. No one know for sure as to what happened during the Elite and Punk brawl (except those involved in the brawl and the fact that Punk called the Elite out and the Elite knocked on his door) and no one know for sure as to what happened here as well. Everything we know and heard of are he said and she said at this point. So where did you go on to get your “previous evidence” that no one in public even Sean Ross Sapp know of?

Chris Sully

ok guys there's a small percentage chance this is a work making punk more divisive and giving Perry and 'edge', bluring the lines for new smarter fans. Also giving all involved an excuse not to stay for the scrum. admittedly no one from the first half of the show was at the scrum and bank holiday travel sucks in the uk. Work or not lets avoid the personal insults. You can have your opinion or fan out/dislike someone but we're all wrestling fans here and this news is equal parts fascinating and disappointing if true but also not suprising. Biggest night in wrestling for a real contender promotion and tensions/egos bound to be high. Hopefully no one got injured this time around and in reality its nothing more than a scuffle/argument blown out of purportion or a work.

TMS

I agree with you on the last part but man is Punk. We know it’s not a work by now. jungle boy affiliation with the elite is well know he basically took one for the team. Sucks that after their first mania type show this will dominate some headlines tough. Much prefered to be talking about the magic that mjf and Cole produce

Troy A Palek

Lol, your nice if people dick ride the Elite. If they like Punk or, gasp, try to see both sides your an asshole. But you do have the gimmick down so fair play.

ALLEn hage

Zero percent change this is a work unless you think they intentionally spent precious tv time telling you the exact opposite about both of them.

Damien Odom

Everything isn’t a work..

Forceofwilliam

Since you're too stupid to look up the definition of preponderance, I did the work for you. "To prove an element by a preponderance of the evidence simply means to prove that something is more likely than not. In other words, in light of the evidence and the law, do you believe that each element of his/her [claim/counterclaim] is more likely true than not?" I'm saying based on the evidence of the past and the current accounts, the evidence proves it is more likely that Punk instigated the situation. It is a logical conclusion to make if your head is not so far up Punk's ass.

Forceofwilliam

I haven't mentioned the Elite once in this comment thread until this reply. Do try to keep up. Edit: It is also you're not your, but I wouldn't expect a braindead Punk mark to know the difference.

Forceofwilliam

I'm not even pretending I know more than anyone else. It's called reading comprehension. Just read the report at face value and don't add your opinion to make it say what you want it to say.

Sokun Ros

Wow, just, wow. I did not want to stoop so low to your level as to use insult, but you are stupid aren’t you? Think, use your brain for once mate (don’t worry, even I know that is hard for you) why would Punk have any reason to initiate a fight or argument with Jack Perry when their previous issue wasn’t about Punk at all? Think, what would he talk to Jack about if he approached him and intended to fight him? “Wahh why did you want to use real glass??” , “wahh, I don’t want to fight in the opening match, I would rather stay here and argue with you instead” ? Fact is, both you and me know nothing about this situation, and unless someone like Sean Ross Sap comes out with a definitive report as to what really happened, no one could blame anyone for anything. Don’t act all high and mighty just because you have just learnt a new word at your second grade class.

Raymond Slover

Because where there's smoke there's fire. Or it's just a coincidence that all backstage fights just Happen to involve CM Punk.

Brian

those collision ratings are amazing huh. barely beats out rampage.

Brian

perry is angry punk leaked the story about the glass too the press. so Punk did what you say the Bucks did,. but thats okay cuz its punk right?

Brian

isnt that what Punk just did to Hangman? and have done like 15 times to Hangman?

Sokun Ros

Not all, Andrade also had a backstage fight with Sammy. Sammy again had a backstage fight with Eddie Kingston. The only reason CM Punk story get the most attention is because he is supposedly one of the “biggest” stars in AEW.

Forceofwilliam

So not only are you a moron, you didn't watch the pre-show (or even read SRS story that you are commenting on). If you would have watched the pre-show, you would know Jack made a comment about "Real glass, cry me a river." during his match with Hook. And because Punk is a petulant child who can't let shit go, he started an altercation when Jack walked backstage after the match. Don't blame me for your lack of reading comprehension. Even with all of that being said, even your simple and soft brain should realize that Punk is always at the center of backstage drama and altercations in AEW. So excuse the logical thinking people who would come to the conclusion that Punk is to blame.

Troy A Palek

I feel Collision could have finished 13th in the ratings (like last week) with or without Punk

Castigear

This is the correct take. He can make quarterly "pipe bombs" off the cuff, but no one else can say a single sentence breaking the fourth wall. It's ridiculously hypocritical. I like punk, but he's too thin skinned.

Noah

Don’t really care about this situation, but your right. Also ignore the replies here. As someone who doesn’t care about punk, the people who hate him are far more vitriolic than the people that love him.

rocksolid124

It'll dominate headlines for the 6% of fans that are the IWC. The vast majority of fans have no idea any of this is happening.

Matty Nice

Anyone else find it crazy that this all started because Someone told Dirt sheets that Perry wanted to use real glass and Perry believes it was Punks team who did it

Matty Nice

So the thing is Punk complaining about "Dirt sheets" was what started Brawl out and then Punk and his team leaked the Real Glass story to the "Dirt sheets"

Sokun Ros

LOL now this is just getting funny. Jack made that remark first, yet is it Punk who can’t let shit go? LOL what? Shouldn’t it be the other way around? Punk cares about Jack’s health and safety from using real glass that even the production, doctors, and Tony Schiavone advised Jack not to use it (did you even read that news at all?), not just only Punk. So why is he the villain here exactly?

Forceofwilliam

Let's me make this clear for you. VIOLENCE IS NOT AN APPROPRIATE RESPONSE TO SOMEONE SAYING SOMETHING...EVER. I don't care what Jack said backstage or in his match with Hook. Punk escalated to violence when he attacked Jack. The person who escalated it to physical violence is the villain, which Punk has done...twice.

Wolf

Any truth to punk saying he's s done with AEW after All in due to all the things he's had to deal with