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The Last Of Us: S2, Episode 2 (Through the Valley) - Patreon Version (Patreon)

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2025-04-25 16:00:21
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The Last Of Us: S2, Episode 2 (Through the Valley) - Patreon Version

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N.T. Stars

This episode was insanity. I loved it. Very interesting to hear you both talk about wanting Abby and her crew dead. Do you think Ellie deserves her revenge more than Abby? If so, why? Abby's father was executed for the "sin" of trying to save the world (albeit in an extreme way). How are Abby and her crew cowards for trekking across the country to deliver justice for fallen loved ones? I think this would make for super interesting discussion pre- or post-show! 🙂

Nathan Jasper

Abby's not a villain, she's a girl in pain. In her eyes, her dad was a hero about to find a cure and then was killed by some Smuggler. She wanted Justice for her dad. Let's not pretend that Joel's an infallible hero. We love him because we spent so much time with him and we watched his relationship with Ellie grow. But if we saw season 1 through Abby's eyes, we would hate him.

Nathan Jasper

Also, you gotta keep in mind that the others with Abby lost their friends and family too because of Joel. That's why they're with her.

Ian A

This episode was so stressful. I did know about the spoiler and as soon as I saw them in the lodge..i thought oh no, this early in the season? That is the only spoiler I know about from the game, so excited to see how the story goes now that it will be all new to me. Thanks for the reaction guys!

Nathan Jasper

I think by "cowards", Jordan meant they killed Joel unarmed. But I feel like that was karma biting Joel in the ass because he killed an unarmed doctor. Tit for tit.

N.T. Stars

Hell, if someone murdered my dad and over a dozen of my friends and got away with it scot-free, I certainly wouldn't concern myself over whether or not he was armed when I finally caught up with him (at his idyllic Wyoming commune).

MarisoL

Abby is ruthless and we know Ellie can be too. The vicious cycle continues.

Audra Muncy

So it hurt so bad to watch her kill Joel. I called her so many mean names. Yes I would be hunting for the person who killed my dad. So two wrongs do not make it right. He didn't open his mouth about Ellie at all when Abby was spilling her hate. He was protecting her as he laid dying. I still insist that Ellie should her been informed of how they where going to get the cure from her she probably would have done it anyway. But neither Joel or Marlene trusted her enough for that. They wanted their own agenda. Love to Joel forever

Kenneth thomas

Haha I lol'ed at "i don't want ellie to just have her life ruined by just being consumed with revenge" "....no, i DO want that."

John Conti

TLOU2 is my favorite game I will say once again.Just remember GOT and who you thought was the main character and what happened to them:)Anyways Just think grey area and absolutely nobody is the hero or villain.If the game or show for that matter was Abby's story you would definitely be siding with her and going after the guy who murdered her father.There is an amazing story to tell from here out and I can tell you it is so worth it.

Nathan Jasper

They were both products of their environment for sure.

MaplenutsReact

You make such a good point. Definitely empathize more with Ellie and Joel because we've been with them this whole time.

MaplenutsReact

Oooh you're right, I didn't even put that together that he was still protecting Ellie by not talking.

MaplenutsReact

Oh yeah, your heart must have just sank when you saw that lodge then!

MaplenutsReact

Truuuuue! Lots of these things I don't even consider in the moment.