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True Detective: S1, Episode 8 (Form and Void) - Patreon Version

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N.T. Stars

Early on, you two wondered if this would be a supernatural story. One of my favorite things about this season is that you can really interpret it either way. The crazy space portal Rust saw at the end could be from brain damage from drugs. But Rust admitted to the detectives he hadn't had one of those flashbacks in a long time. And it happened right in front of the "Yellow King" sculpture. It's either a big coincidence... OR this show is secretly cosmic horror. It's whatever you want! I see a lot of Lovecraft in this. Marty and Rust feel like Lovecraft protagonists confronting an unknowable horror and being marked by it. So I like to think Cthulhu was about to step out of that portal 😆

Ian A

This was great. Thank you guys for watching with us. As far as the ending, I am hoping it's a positive one for Rust. I can see him taking it both ways after some time. Like he said the lights winning so that may push him on to continue, yet his questions of he shouldn't be here and his feeling of his family while dying, I can see him continuing on his self destructive path, coz he wants to join her and feels he doesn't belong here.

Joel P

"But Rust admitted to the detectives he hadn't had one of those flashbacks in a long time." I interpreted that as him lying to gain credibility with them. He wanted them to take what he was saying seriously and not dismiss him as a crazy person whose brain is still fried from doing hard drugs. He told Marty the truth in the car in this last episode that the visions never stopped and he didn't think they ever would. That said, you could be right regardless. There's definitely more than a few hints at the supernatural in the series. Rust realizes it at the end.

christopher b swanson

I have watched this now 3 times.............. brilliant and each rewatch is so worth it and incredible...........

MaplenutsReact

Very well put. I think it was an acid flashback too!

MaplenutsReact

True!! It seems like before the case he focused primarily on his feelings of loneliness due to losing his family, and by the end he could see more value in the world - the lights winning - so I feel like by just saying that it's a step in the right direction!

MaplenutsReact

Ha! Omg I would have loved for Cthulhu to just step out. This show jumping to full blown supernatural for a season two would have actually been awesome.

MaplenutsReact

Rust wanting to be credible is also a great point. Just goes to show how complex and well written this show is!

Nathan Jasper

The dark has more territory but that doesn't keep the light from shining.

Clay F

The depiction of the connection between Marty and Rust at the end of episode was cool. Would have been nice if those men wearing animal masks in that video would have been nailed. I like the way arguably ended with a sense of hope. "If you ask me, the light is winning."

pinkdino99

I don't know what went wrong on season 2. Curious if you guys will ever watch it off stream. Same creative team... but the plot in that is so ridiculously convoluted I have watched a YouTube series of videos over two hours long doing a plotline summary. I've only watched season 3 once and thought it was OK, but still not as clean or understandable as this titan on a season 1. Please consider doing Reacher ! He's a smart detective too !

pinkdino99

HI TRUE DETECTIVE FANS ! Off the back of Andelein's excellent The VVitch reaction I have been made aware of the YouTube channel Novum which does deep dives on the symbolism of some of my fave horror movies... the aforementioned The VVitch, Herediatory and Midsommer. AND a 4hr deep dive into True Detective. And OMFG... This is REALLY good work. True Detective S1 – Mythology, Folklore & The Occult You are welcome !