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Andor: S2, Episode 2 (Sagrona Teema) - Patreon Version

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Joseph Olson

They were on Yavin 4. The Rebel base hasn’t been established there yet. Those idiots playing the Star Wars version of rock, paper, scissors to see who would lead was hilarious. Their lack of effective leadership, constant bickering and trying to kill each other shows how disorganized and dysfunctional the Rebellion is at this point, only a few years before the Battle of Yavin. I found Perrin’s speech to be hedonistic. Maybe I’m influenced by not liking him, but him advising his daughter to seek out “a moment of pleasing sensation” and to treasure “the comfort of a fine meal” to me reveals where his values lie. When I compare him to Mon, and wonder about the speech she would have made, it makes me dislike him even more. Syril and Dedra together. Last season he was stalking her, and now they’re a couple. They’re both intense and devoted to the Empire in their own way, and he did save her life, but still…he was stalking her.

N.T. Stars

Syril got a promotion and a scary girlfriend who can destroy his enemies. Dude's living the dream.

Over50Gamer

I woudn't have pegged him for a sub.... but I bet Dedra would. ;)

Jon Johns

Okay, so, I've said before, this seasons episodes were releasing along with global Star Wars Celebration events. Along with film star interviews on stages, there were just a load of marketing interviews and events for Andor, and I couldn't get enough. Some of these videos are spoilers, so wait until you've seen the entire season. They are fantastic! So much great behind the scenes stories, actors talking about each other, Tony Gilroy talking about story details, stuff not in the series, lore, and more. A couple actors commented on the sets, and set design: in the little shop on the "Wheat planet" (I forget the name) all the shelves and even the drawers, are filled with product! No one would ever see that stuff, it was just for the actors to "feel" more "in world". That attention to detail is kind of amazing. Finally: the actors interviews are priceless. They are mostly paired, or tripled in characters who were together, like Syril & Dedra, and those interviews are hilarious sometimes. The actress who plays Dedra is actually charming 🥰.

Jon Johns

I'm curious, was the "Dinosaur" a slightly different version of the beast that The Mandolirian had to defeat for the Jawas? Also, "Andor Roshambo" is the fist game. Some nerd (like me) out there must have figured out the rules 😂 just like rock, paper, scissors, Vulcan...

Jon Johns

I imagined that Maya Pei was a control freak, and overly paranoid, so she never developed leaders under her, and bred that paranoia into them. She likely only recruited people she could control, too. This, in my humble opinion reflects a little on Luthens paranoia, however justified, and the dangers that carries. It's not the same! Luthens seems to deal with it much better, and he builds leaders after carefully recruiting. I guess what I'm saying is: not all rebel cells are the same. Some are effective, others are just petty criminals working against the empire, but only primarily, and others still have serious political differences, but all are "against the empire" so, they are all "rebels". Eventually, most of them will form an alliance, but, they are just regular people, farmers, salesmen, blue collar workers, pilots, smugglers, crooks... That is what becomes the new Republic, I guess. 🤷‍♂️

Lars G

Perrin is an ass, but he understands quite well what it's like to find yourself in an arranged marriage. I like his speech, I think his advice is probably very practical.

Thadman

I was thinking, this episode, that Luthen is one slight step back from Saw in that Saw is completely paranoid, but Luthen is just paranoid. 😁 Saw doesn't trust ANYONE and thinks everyone is out to kill him so he's made many who would be his allies, his enemies. Luthen still realizes that he needs all the allies he can get, even if he's willing to drop them at a moment's notice if they become threatening to the cause. He makes them all believe that he'll be there for them.

Thadman

There's a lot of people that are disgruntled and hate the Empire, but are not skilled nor disciplined. The Maya-Pei guys are an example of the very undisciplined side of the early stages of the Rebellion. All the cells are separate, so they all have different ethos in how and why they are in this. I like that they showed this side (which you could really only do in a TV show) to show how messy it is trying to rebel and work with different people from across the galaxy and how it'd be a slow and rocky path to get them all together to work towards the same one goal. I'd guess all the factions would have to agree to leaders. These Maya-Pei guys lost their leader and just fell apart. Didn't help that they were 2 days without food (3 days by the time they tried to eat those melons), so that didn't help their disposition nor rationality. Oh, and Cass knew where that stuff was in the ship because it was HIS ship. Remember he came back to that planet to deliver the tie fighter and he was going to then leave in his ship to go back to Bix and Brasso, but the Maya-Pei guys wrecked his ship. I think he yells, "WHAT DID YOU DO TO MY SHIP???" or something like that when they first took him hostage.

Com1xguy

Love seeing the Dawn Runner in the background. Just reread that last week.

MaplenutsReact

Oh hell yeah!! You clearly have great taste haha, if you have any recommendations for other graphic novels you love, pleeease tell me!

MaplenutsReact

Oh! Right, of course. I must have missed him saying it was his ship.

Com1xguy

Sure thing! A few off the top of my head... Helen of Wyndhorn, by Tom King and Bilquis Evely. The Guns of Shadow Valley by Dave Wachter. And Two Sisters by Matt Kindt.

David Perkins

bro, i see what you did there but i sincerely wish i didn't!

MaplenutsReact

I'm saving all of these to my "must read list" haha Thank you!