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Daniel Giovino

It’s really a gift to get to hear these stories. I have a lot of thoughts and feelings I’d like to share about these songs since they shaped my upbringing greatly. Jesse, thank you for telling this account and not leaving out any details. I relate to a lot of it. It gives me permission to express things creatively that I thought weren’t worth sharing. Thank you.

Mattias Mälk

I really like how you lifted the veil surrounding the source and details of writing. Just enough to clear some of my decades-old confusion but still retains the mystery and makes me want to go back and listen to everything again.

Mattias Mälk

Another surprise - I didn't expect to hear about the "Exit Lights" album but since it's also a favorite of mine and important for personal reasons, I'd love to hear more about making it.

Chris P.

Thanks for yer another vulnerable look into the band's history. Sorry to hear the sadness behind Contact, that song always resonated with me as I dealt with existential crisis or identity crisis. You captured something in that song that has helped countless others so thanks for sharing your story behind it!

Phillip Mayhair

Oh how I would love to hear that Contact demo. I wasn’t expecting it to have such a dark background. Nuggets of lore! Hoorah! Glad to have confirmation that it is indeed Intro and not Into. I always assumed that was correct as that’s what is on the cd, but I’ve seen some places mess it up. (I love the weird song titles for what it’s worth. Just another layer of the uniqueness that is Falling Up.)

Jonah Smith

Wow!! What an episode! Definitely the one Ive enjoyed the most. :)

Zach Hitt

I really like the element of sort of diving into what went into the making of each song. I also like that you talked about the story element of the album with the flood waters. As a writer myself I love hearing what weird and bizarre brain synapses are firing off for other writers. Very well done Jessy!

Maisen Saxton

I now know this record felt rushed and full of tension to you, but I hope you know the impact that it had on me was more special than I could possibly tell you…and I’m sure that I’m not the only fan that had that experience. I could probably write a book about the dark time that Dawn Escapes was the sound track for in my life. I was a freshman in high school and I bought it on the day it came out. I was going through some major social isolation following a break up with my first real girlfriend and the fallout from some major conflict with my wrestling team. All that to say, the emotions and ambience of this record resonated with me in ways that I didn’t understand, and I don’t I think I could fully articulate to this day. I put it on now and it all just comes flooding back. To have all this insight from you brings me an incredible and unexpected sense of closure….which I’m extremely grateful for 🙏🏻

Maisen Saxton

Also, I’m agnostic now, but as a Christian at the time, on Searchlights I always thought that was about Gods wrath leading up to the biblical flood from the “I swear we’ll flood your city, no choice that’s what your getting” but it sounds like I got that wrong and your were actually talking about this healing flood in narrative you created. So if this isn’t a Christian song who is the he you mention in the bridge? “He will heal the shattered hopes and fly away the broken souls” I always thought that was clearly a last chance lifeline call to Jesus evangelism kind of moment…which actually makes that song a bit uncomfortable to listen to for me at this point in my life. But if that’s totally wrong and there is a different explanation maybe I could enjoy this song again with out reading into it this dark shadow of religious condemnation. Call me basic, but sonically, this is one of my favorite songs of all time alongside Moonlite and Contact. Speaking of, same idea on Contact with the line “He's in this place, in this place to question who you are.” Who is he if not God? I always thought that one was about dying to your old ways and being reborn in Christ through baptism….I’d love for it not to be as Christian as I always interpreted. It sounds like the rest of the lyrics come from a much more bleak and devastatingly honest place of be depleted and losing yourself, which I can really relate to.

Levi Y.

Jeremy & Tom really brought the 🔥 with those riffs in Flights!

mark willand

What I wouldn't give to get this album on vinyl... So amazing

Zach Hitt

That’s so interesting. I found the album right on the verge of leaving Christianity as well and I thought searchlights was sort of an indictment on the wrath of god as well. I remember thinking “wait, are these guys ALSO saying they’re not Christian anymore??” Oddly enough tho I also interpreted Cascades to be about playing flashlight tag haha

Valor Nash

I have the exact same thoughts as you, as a fellow exvangelical

Maisen Saxton

I could see how you thought it was an indictment on its own, but in context the chorus always seemed like it was supposed to be gods voice reaching out to save you from his wrath “If you wanna breathe will you just, let me know If you want it, then you'll see it. Let me know. Wash away the tears. Will you just let me know?” And again the bridge seems to drive that point home “He will heal the shattered hopes. And fly away the broken souls. It's not too late to find out who you are.”

Adam Stutsman

This series is wild with the way it’s illuminating songs and albums that I know so well, recontextualizing things in a sort of “parallel universe” experience. I’ve got my personal connection to Dawn Escapes, with no small amount of nostalgia and inner worlds of my own for the songs, and now there’s a parallel of knowing the details of how and where it was made, and it’s fascinating learning the way those two universes overlap. This series is also like the first time I watched through the Lord of the Rings behind-the-scenes, but with way more guitars.

Jake Oldenburgh

With all the emotions in “contact” you should release a softer emotional take. That would be so good.

The Faunal Frontier

I re-listened to the Hours audiobook recently and, with the added context of this podcast, I finally understand why the pain of the misunderstandings between Finn and the others feels so visceral.

Ben Ritter

It's crazy how much strife was going on with you all for this album, because you still managed to put out an incredible album.