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S8E22: Playing With Dolls with Susanna Hoffs (Patreon)

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2024-06-18 02:42:08
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Susanna Hoffs and Bret discuss learning the elements of melody from radio, watching the Beatles get weird and bringing the Bangles to see Beyond the Valley of the Dolls. Part 1 of 2.

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M. Nero Nava

No surprise—Hoffs knows her stuff. It makes for a fun interview. Sorry for my preoccupation with BEE’s mood—but this seemed to pep him up. Also, Manic Monday is the best #2 hit of all time. Also, a little surprised BEE liked VU & Nico. Thought it would be too dissonant for him. Great melodies among the flat singing and avant garde minded arrangements.

PETER GREER

Incredible episode 🍻🤘🏻👏🏻💪🏻

Moz

Dream woman, a pure joy to listen to

Steve

I must be hard to please, but she constantly interrupts and cuts off Bret. She says "yeah yeah" over and over again. The key to a good podcast interview is not talking over each other.

Patrick
>>141217786

I think Bret and Adam know the key to a great podcast and interview/edit this episode expertly. I love the pitter-patter chattiness here and think their conversation flows effortlessly like kindred spirits or old friends. Very enjoyable to me and love the break from the nameless dread of the last month or so. 🥂

Travis Danner

Get in the goddamn (Criterion) closet, Bret!!!

Stevan Popovic

The Exorcist has dated badly. Great first part.

richard owain roberts

am going to listen on my run. will say more later, after my run.

Shane Collender

Ho-lee fuck! The one we have ALL been waiting for!!

David Lowe

Being one of several million men of a certain age who crushed big time on Susanna in the 80's, this was an awesome episode... can't wait for part 2

Florence
>>141276815

No it hasn't! I watched it in the fall at a theatre for the first time and I was so impressed. I think what makes it "dated" is the copy cat follow up movies that diminish the how powerful the first movie was. But I did watch it w a friend who was seeing it for the first time also who couldn't stop laughing at Regan's behaviour while possessed...so it depends on who is seeing it!

Collin Myers
>>141276815

hard disagree especially if you reevaluate through the lens of it being a metaphor for reagen being abused by her father--some essayist/critic wrote an article about this that i stumbled upon some years ago and it kind of blew my mind.

Nikki Ferrari
>>141217786

Rufus Wainwright did that to Bret also and it was really hard to ignore. The constant disruptions were really distracting.

Dave

Holy smokes - like two old friends! Can’t wait for Part 2!

Stevan Popovic
>>141276815

In the UK it got banned on video. They released in 1998 on cinema. It did not take much to scare people in the seventies. Many watching were under age. Laughing at scenes which should have been shocking.

Devon H. Dolan

Hearing these two laugh like giddy schoolgirls really lifted my day — such a fun listen

Harrison Bergeron

Griffin Dunne has a new book about his family and himself. He seems like an obvious choice for a great podcast guest with his iconic 80s movies and literary connections. After Hours will always be a favorite.

Justin

Sounds like Susanna really lifted Bret's spirits.

T Frick

Dirk Bogarde never gave a bad performance, and totally unpredictable. BEE, do a deep dive on that guy, would love to hear that essay.

BRC

Have they met before?

Edi Panta

Bret! What an amaze balls guest comeback pod!

N.M. Janice.

This might be one of his best guests ever. Such a fun and pleasant conversation. Susanna really knows her stuff. I couldn't agree more about shooting on film. I know that digital is easier and cheaper, and it allows more people access to make films, so I'm all for that aspect, but film just looks so much better when you have a good director and cinematographer who know how to use it.

Ashley

The upside down backwards stair crawl in The Exorcist is pretty freaky tbh 🤢

Darren Ankenman

Perfect example of a period film that does not work because it looks too clean/digital : Mank

Oleg

haha bret is struggling to finish a thought being constantly interrupted by susanna.

Phoenix
>>141276815

Saw in the theater 5 years ago and it just wasn’t as scary. Doesn’t have the hold on me like it once did, but still creepy.

Phoenix

Great interview, absolutely loved her. Danced to Walk Like an Egyptian in my second grade talent show lol, they were a big big deal at the time. This interview got me thinking, Bret should interview Gina Gershon. She grew up in LA too. I heard her on Marc Maron years ago and she had a ton of fun LA stories.

Darren

Great part 1, loved this conversation. Susanna is a great guest. It’s cool to hear that they want to shoot the ‘Shards’ TV series on film—that’s awesome! It will look great, especially with HBO backing it!

Sértő-Radics Sarolta
>>141465118

I read comments indicating she interrupted, but even on second listening, she seemed reserved and not interrupting... am I missing something?

Oleg
>>141465118

well he often cannot finish a sentence because she started talking.

Ashley
>>141465118

I didn’t hear her interrupting either, if anything Bret seemed to dominate the conversation at times

John

She is delightful.

Adriaan

These are the episodes that make the BEE podcast special. Great ep!

J Sopp

Has Bret ever talked about Mary Gaitskill on this pod?

Lionel
>>141428332

A lot didn’t work in that film… it felt like work watching it.

Lionel
>>141276815

I watched it for the first time recently and thought it was fantastic. Feels like Freidkin tapped into some genuine dark energy. Or maybe it was just that everyone was scared of him on set and he turned the bedroom into a giant freezer.

Lionel

There is a growing movement, which I am part of, that believe The Magical Mystery Tour is the greatest Beatles album. Also Purple Rain and The Velvet Underground were great selections.

Kevan christie

She’s showing Bret everything and telling him nothing

Austin

Is there a list posted anywhere of Brets recommendations? Specifically for old movies…criterion classics.

Samer Akl

More Susanna Hoffs less Tim Pool’s production guy

Nikki Ferrari
>>141413075

Yes, at a party a few years ago through mutual friends that’s how he got her email address

BRC
>>141413075

Thanks- I couldn't recall. Can't wait for the next conversation

Alex Bielovich

This sounded like an uplifting one for Bret. Cannot wait to watch The Shards (on film!)

Stephen Curry

That was truly riveting. The idea that Hoffs looks as good as she does and has THAT kind of talent and intellect is proof there is no god! Abilities are too unfairly distributed. Also she sounds cool to hang out with. I started listening to bangles again, and I’ve started to like the less well known bangles songs, like in your room and set you free. Thanks for another great show!

Stephen Curry
>>141558912

I’ve always liked magical mystery tour too. But in truth, it’s hard to choose a best Beatles album. Help is like a small miracle after listening again…

Dave

Just finished reading Hoffs’ “This Bird Has Flown” in time for Part 2. She’s a great writer - and what’s more - does a phenomenal job describing a musical performer’s perspective while “on stage” (I won’t say more - no spoilers).

Kathy Oldenburg

I’m so glad there will be a part 2. What a great conversation.

MisterBlasty

Susanna has always been a great interview. So glad Bret did this

JT

Susanna was every straight guy's fantasy girl in the 80s, including this one. So talented. 👍