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The B.E.E. Podcast - 5/3/18 - SILVER (Patreon)

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Bret Easton Ellis discusses Call Me By Your Name, The Shape of Water, the welcome spectacle of Wonder Woman and separating the art from the artist.

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Brian Rooney

Link to copy and paste into podcast app?

Mark SF
>>12052475

I copied the link of that mp3 file into my podcast app. Worked.

Martin Dan Rasmussen

Love the final point. Look at the art, not the artist. How I feel with Spacey. Honestly, as a writer, writing Spaceys comeback, would be a dream job.

Erick

Why am I hearing the same podcast over and over again?

Chuck

Thoroughly enjoyed the episode. I liked phantom thread. I didn’t really find it pretentious, maybe it is just the period and the fact that the character was a fashion designer that made it seem pretentious.

Paul b

Does anyone have links to everything mentioned? I listen in the car so it’s hard to take notes.

MidRangeG

Louis CK's I Love You, Daddy was 2017's funniest film (although I'd listen to an argument for Three Billboards as well) and a much better screenplay than half of the this year's nominees - including the winner. Presented in black and white against a Hollywood backdrop and staring Academy darling Malkovich - the picture was a plea for a seat at the big boy table. The comparisons to Woody Allen are by design and warranted. Once the scandal broke it was immediately clear that this was not a film that audiences were going to accept. But were you surprised by the critical response? A quick scan over the Rotten Tomatoes page gives you an idea of just how industrially ingrained the incapability to separate art from the artist really is . It was a synchronised and sanctimonious scolding delivered with plenty of - as you say - pearl clutching, that made me a) cringe and b) thankful not to be American. And it was all totally disproportionate to the weight of the relatively infantile offence. His actions were pathetic and gross and embarrassing and 10 years ago. Had the scandal never broke or events never happened, could I Love You, Daddy have been a major success? Or was the subject matter always going to be too weird and taboo for contemporary audiences?

Granit S.
>>12095578

This. In the good old days of pre-2015 this would've gotten the appropriate reaction from the audience, which is endless ridicule and banter and not actually lumping him together with some of the worst people from hollywood.

Anna Fox

Very surprised about the review of Wonder Woman as a feminist triumph. I agree, it's funny and charming for the most middle part, but the ending? She defeats him through the power of love for Christ's sake. The most condescending way of putting her back in her place as a woman. I don't see Batman defeating anyone through the power of love, he doesn't have to, he's a dude. I thought this really let the film down and reversed any potential for it to be empowering into a conservative narrative, completely overriding any of the positive points made about women previously in the film.

MidRangeG
>>12095578

@Bobby The film was never commercially released due to the scandal (dropped by the publisher or just abandoned? I can't remember). Screeners were printed and distributed for award consideration. I have family in the Academy and could source a copy legally. Torrents of the screener can found where all good torrents are found - if you're not above that. As there are no avenues to financially support the picture, this particular case is a bit of a moral grey area. But I say go for it. For all that's worth.

keagan Afonso
>>12095578

I Love You Daddy was very film literate ( reminded me of a Antonioni film dealing with the subject of miserable rich people in black and white) and deals with subjects that are considered too taboo for todays standards, but it is brilliant. ( my only contempt is for the "Gen X talk too much in monologues" type script but Louis pulls it off quite expertly

Chuck
>>12095578

Great post. Very convincing that now I would like to see it. If anyone knows an easy way to view it please share.

Ian Schultz

I thought they got it right (only time in my lifetime) with The Shape of Water it had everything I wanted in a film

Thomas Rankin

I did my duty and commented in the other thread about The Eagles, so now I'm asking a movie-related question: Bret, what did you think of SUPER DARK TIMES?

Charles Golding
>>12235585

The heros journey, ET, and phantom of the opera, beauty and the beast? I think a robot could make your films then. *Press blend*

Kyle Kouri

Definitely curious about Bret's thoughts on SUPER DARK TIMES.

Tom Syverson

I wanted to say (as a cis-hetero man) that I thought Call Me By Your Name was easily the best and most beautiful movie of last year, and anyone who slept on that movie should really reconsider. I saw it several months ago, but Bret's monologue on it here is absolutely A+ and reminds me how deeply moving the movie was. His commentary brought back all sorts of emotions I felt sitting in the theater. What a film!

Holly

'Call Me By Your Name' was my favorite film of the year! Great review. It definitely was a long way from Brokeback Mountain, and I agree 'languorous', it was. It's interesting he moved the date and location from the novel. Most of all, I'm surprised to hear how sexless you describe the novel - I've been wanting to read it but may skip it now.

Holly

I can't believe how many people didn't appreciate the film. I was extremely enthralled by the beauty of the film. And, I'm a hetero female.