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The B.E.E. Podcast - 6/15/18 - James Van Der Beek - SILVER (Patreon)

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James Van Der Beek and Bret Easton Ellis discuss Solo: A Star Wars Story, Ryan Murphy, the cancellation of Roseanne and supporting a growing family as an actor.

Comments

John Q. Thompson

If all it takes for you to abandon your dreams is Kevin Spacey grabbing your ass, you were never going to reach that dream anyway.

Brandon Cook

so glad i didn't see solo in theaters.

Jessica Matlin

On the topic of celebrities being open and then paying for it: Really curious what Bret thinks of Gisele Bündchen’s apology this week. She took back a comment where she said she had gained wisdom w age and if she were coming up now, she wouldn’t use Instagram the way younger models do. Not sure what’s controversial about this, she had to do a full court press apology.

LeRoi

The theme of ideology and aesthetic, their contrast and their almost always noxious intermingling in contemporary art, is a mainstay on this podcast. Why is ideological art always bad art? What does it mean to be purely aesthetic, and why does that idea of 'art for art's sake,' something once propounded by the young, the avant garde, seem so out of tune with our contemporary cultural climate? I truly think that an art form is completely lost, an artist ceases to be an artist, once they try to put a message into their art, although I believe we can distinguish the great moralist novelists from the contemporary 'writer communes' Bret discusses here. If you want to disseminate a message, become a philosopher, become a politician, a preacher - these are the mediums for 'straightforward' purely informational expressing of opinion. Art is not the forum for this. It is terrifying to me that Bret is one of the few vocal people who realize this and is not afraid to call out ideological art, which we should just refer to as propaganda or, even better, agitprop (look it up). The authorial, artistic voice, with very few exceptions, cannot be tied with certainty to any particular message. What Bret's podcast helps me to think about is why this is the case, and why right now it seems as if we will soon occlude the aesthetic dimension of any work altogether. Great podcast, thank you.

MidRangeG

"Appropriation question aside.." ehhh, why? Edit: I just finished the podcast. JVDB seems like a nice guy. It's tricky to tell whether he lacks liberal conviction or he's just performing for Them. But he certainly wasn't interested in defending it. - Are we getting into Trump now? Cultural appropriation question aside. I don't want to talk about Al Franken - Landmines in JVDB's realm.

Senseless

I fucking love you, Bret Easton Ellis. I'm so glad you exist.

Alistair Dean

Lol, great podcast. Bret are you trying to get James fired from every role?! The idea that Terry Crews was a babe in the woods when some effete producer grabbed his ass is laughable.

Paul

Great episode. Keep them coming

aj

The only podcast worth paying for, so glad you are back Bret.

Michael Gagne

Has Bret ever been asked to be a guest on Real Time or if he was would he accept the invitation?

Christopher Hooton

Great episode. I feel more sane for having listened.

Chuck

I enjoyed the episode. I like the format of Bret’s monologue followed by and interview. JVDB does seem like the most well adjusted person as bret put it.

D

Real chemistry by the end -the laughter, I was in sore need of that. Bret therapy!

David Chien

Yet again, JVDB strikes me as a good dude.

Biggons

Make no mistake, the box office failure of Solo is fans getting a refund for The Last Jedi.

David Eugene

I love BEE because he comes off honest, expressing his true feelings on things not caring whom it might offend... because really how can you control that anyway. I found myself nodding my head “yessssss” multiple times while he was making a point. James came off as very calculated and too careful with his responses. I get that he has to be “careful” as to not impact his career, but I felt that was the overwhelming theme of this episode... isn’t it bad that we live in a culture where you have to be careful of what you say for fear that you might offend someone and lose your job? And James really seems shaped and molded by the corporate structure of Hollywood so much that he comes off as plastic in this interview. I love that BEE addressed that early in the interview, but unfortunately James couldn’t adapt to the environment to really give an authentic interview. I bet in person he is much more animated and expressive, but I found myself giving the stroking the schlong gesture during some of his comments because it figuratively felt like I was being fluffed for a porn scene...