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The B.E.E. Podcast - 11/15/18 - Jason Starr - SILVER (Patreon)

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Novelist Jason Starr and Bret Easton Ellis discuss Suspiria, Fugitive Red, the waning grit of New York City and the influence of television shows on contemporary novelists.

Comments

Darren

Catching up on old episodes. This is a great interview. I would have loved to see The Follower get made. Sadly, it didn’t, and now You kind of came along and stole its thunder.

Travis Danner

I was looking forward to hearing what Bret thought of the new Halloween you guys skipped right past it! lol I was surprised by how fun it was. Looked great, great Carpenter score. Awesome episode. gonna check out Andrei Rublev asap.

Ian Schultz

I would love to hear about Bret thoughts about Strange Angel which is my fav show of the year.

Todd

Was that Todd singing in between segments?

Michael Glaberman

Where do go to post questions for Bret to answer in the livestream?

David

What’s the opening song?

FlyingWaffle

Great podcast episode! For anyone who has amazon prime, a few classic "gritty NYC" movies are on right now: Klute (Alan Pakula 1971) Fame (Alan Parker, 1980) The Hunger (Tony Scott, 1983, with Bowie!) 9 1/2 weeks (Adrian Lyne, 1986)

Erik

The reason is because modern movies have lost acting, the art of act. We need to talk more about older movies, where they story and rolesetting and actors Acted! Netflix series etc has just the effect of fast-food, it becomes personal, and we dont need anything else then a small personal connection and we follow them. Our most important Role is to educated and show the smart phone generations old classics.

Erik

There is something, not possible to speak out, from a genuine actor who Acts so the limit/border between acting and for real come out. Also look at Stanly Kubrick, how he pushed them more and more and more, and doesnt its gets under your skin? Profit have killed cinema. Profit makes people do less.

Senseless

“There’s nothing as great, or orgasmic, as walking out of a bad play.” 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Julio Corea

Couldn’t be happier to have only half paid attention to your review of Burning and just focused on the see it in a theater part. Just caught it at the new Leamle Glendale and loved it. Listened to the review attentively now. Gracias 🙏🏼

Brent Minder
>>17239921

You're welcome. The Nov 1 Seth Abramovitch xylophone muzak is even more obscure (18:45).

Jay Jay

Thanks @Brent Minder for the timestamp. For Bret, or his editor, can you please include the time stamps / chapte​rs in the episode itself? Podcast players support​ it and it would be great to have for longer episodes.

Brent Minder
>>17480713

You're welcome @Joakim. They changed the music shifting the program and invalidating my original programme, so it was deleted.

Brent Minder

: Programme Bee v2 : ♫ 1. 0:51 - 18:37. Bret compares "First Man" with "The First", "Suspiria", etc ♫ 2. 19:07 - 27:50 Bret talks "Burning", "Andrei Rublev", etc ♫ 3. 28:25 - 1:03:53 Bret gets excited about making his own movie and discusses "Fugitive Red" with Jason Starr (38:50). ♫ 4. 1:04:27 - 1:25:58 con't conversation with JS on NYC ♫ 5. 1:26:36 - 2:15:06 con't JS on reading, writing, character likability, film vs tv, politics, social media ♫

Ben

Brett are you f u cking joking about The Bodyguard? It’s the absolute worst middle of the road thriller I’ve ever seen in my life. I mean it makes Sunset Beach look like The Godfather. The lead actor has the charisma of my 92 year old grandfathers penis. It’s absolute tosh. Man, come on. No. No. No. I mean no. No. No.

Joe Paluck
>>17954868

Really? I thought it was great. So did everyone I know. I felt the lead actor’s cold, remote approach to the character was a “take” on a battle hardened soldier with PTSD. I didn’t read him as lacking charisma. It felt intentional to me. It’s nominated for a Golden Globe for best drama. Are we all wrong?

Matt Jones

Bret have you seen Lee Chang Dong's other films? Burning was made for western audiences and got rave reviews in Europe and USA... but it pretty much got an eye roll in S. Korea. It might have sold lots of tickets when it first came out (as you say) I actually saw it 4 times here in korea... but it passed through pretty fast, and most people I talked to thought it was disappointing, compared to his other truly incredible films. He is a great writer, so I like it when he writes his own stories. Still, Burning is better than most out there

Gnome

I found the remake of Suspiria slightly unsatisfying when I first watched it, but it really stayed with me. I've rewatched it and it's since become one of my favourite films. The dance sequence, Mia Goth, the voting, the overall sadness of the film - I think it will be considered a classic in twenty years' time.

Robert R. Conroy

Brett, is your circle of film geeks entirely straight white guys? Every female and/or queer person who has seen it I know has recognized Suspiria as a crazy-ass masterpiece. Why I am not shocked you don't get it?