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The B.E.E. Podcast - 1/11/19 - Stephan Paternot - SILVER (Patreon)

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Internet entrepreneur and author Stephan Paternot and Bret Easton Ellis discuss Bird Box, finding closure through writing A Very Public Offering, The Social Network and Escape at Dannemora.

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Florence

This conversation is so interesting and good to back to listen to. I would love if Stephan came back on the pod to give his opinion on where we are currently. And how slated is going bc I feel like what he's talking about has contributed negatively to the way films are made now. Also it's crazy to hear Bret doing reviews....what we've lost smh.

Erick

The opening scene Bret describes, 2008 solitary viewer of The Happening made my face hurt with laughter. Btw does Bret have Tibetan monk circular breathing skills? Or maybe he leaned to play the didgeridoo from Australian aboriginese? I think he has an aquarium pump hooked up to his lungs, he never takes a breath lol, love it!!

C

very sorry to hear you were the only one in the theater for The Happening. when i saw it, most of the audience was laughing.

Christopher Neu

The bird box narrative structure gave away any chance of a mystery upfront.

MikeE

This guy sounds like another Hollywood huckster using ‘analytics’, Ryan Kavanaugh 2.0. It is simply too hostile to such an approach.

BUtterfield8

This guy has a terrible habit of presenting utter banalities as if they are something insightful. Insufferable. And I have listened to 100% of Bret's podcasts so far. I had to stop this one. Halt and Catch Fire is the best tv show so far about the early days of the web. The show is centered on the PC revolution days primarily in the 80s. It ends in the early web days, pre dot-com boom. The show has surprisingly great music selections. Beloved by techies for generally getting the tech stuff right.

Michael Walsh

Most movies, let's face it, are crap. If Slated only offers a more efficient process, I can't see that it is much of an improvement. Also, while the big screen is essential for some movies (even if, like me, you're not a fan of the communal experience) streaming video is pretty much the only way to see the many superior foreign films out there. I only wish Netflix or Amazon were brave enough to screen more of them. One refreshing thing about them is their freedom from Hollywood's neo-Puritan obsessions. I refuse to be preached at. Mr. Paternot's stuffy high church moral indignation marks him as an unreliable ally of personal or artistic freedom.

Alex Kazam

I really liked this interview. A tech entrepreneur's perspective on film can be painful to listen to. They often talk about it in a clinical, dispassionate way; the direct opposite style to Bret's passionate approach I find so appealing. Yet it’s important to hear what they have to say, since their creations shape the art we love so much. Paternot struck a balance between the two styles. I’m intrigued to see how his vision of the film industry plays out. His touch of TDS was amusing too. Bret/Adam - I’d love to hear a conversation between Bret and the cartoonist/writer Scott Adams. I have a feeling you may share his worldview about the political climate more than you’re letting on. Like Paternot, he walks the line between the businesslike/aristic approach.

MikeE
>>18836088

I’m with you, this is also literally the first one I’ve bailed on early. Well I did on the reader question one too but I don’t count that one. I’ve heard it all before, he just sounds like a producers sales rep circa 1998 (Michael Keaton? That’s worth $100 grand in Italy, etc) with a new gimmick which is roping suckers with dreams onto his site which looks just like the other sham ‘have your script analyzed by REAL Hollywood script readers!’ (woo hoo) sites, with the same coverage tick boxes used by readers since the 80’s. But what do I know, he’s rich I’m not.

Richard Luna

One of the worst guest - ever. Refers to himself as a cinephile, yet had no idea 3 (technically 4) previous versions of A Star is Born existed. That is not a cinephile. The pompous declaration near the end referring to only educated people having valid opinions, political or otherwise...it is this attitude that led to election of Donald Trump! Gee...thanks.

Ant

Maybe it’s his oozing entitlement that’s sending the average woke BEE podcast listener into a rage here, and that just doesn’t annoy me as much ..but I find this guy absolutely fascinating! I mean.. Awkward-as-fuck dot com millionaire born with a silver spoon, and sort of invented social media, but has crazy abandonment issues, and has lived an amazing rise & fall & rise again business story, in tech, in Hollywood, but is kinda self un-aware, but probably super-smart, definitely over therapy-ed, a kind of naive alien disruptor that is just trying to find some sense of self & home on this planet ... And I’m only half way through listening. I still don’t know what he thinks of The Eagles. He might be jerk but this cat is fuuuuucking interesting!

Graeme

Not a fan of this guest. Bit of a dullard and the idea of analytics being used for film (as someone that uses them for soccer) is laughable at best and depressing at worst. Best bit of the episode was pre guest

Parker

Slated sounds like the absolute worst thing that could happen to cinema. Very surprised Bret went along with it.

Asa Oliver Skinner

Interesting, eloquent guy! Another great ep, Bret. -Asa, 25, UK

Chris Wright

Jesus Christ these comments are terrible. So many arrogant, condescending people.

Gabriel

This guy just seemed maybe a lil stupid? Seemed like he was dodging Bret’s question when he just didn’t answer what grade Roma’s screenplay would get on his screenplay score site, but by the second and third time this happened i started to think he was just a lil slow and genuinely didn’t understand what he was being asked.

David

This was a great ep. One of the most interesting guests so far.

Chuck

He started off very interesting but as he went on about how he can’t even follow someone or be friends with someone he doesn’t agree with politically made me think that’s what he’s trying to do with his company too. Get rid of all movies he doesn’t think are good. So a collective algorithm developed by him doesn’t think a movie will be good, don’t let it get made.. but what if a few people do like it? We won’t know because only movies made by his rules will be made seems to be what he’s trying to do. Just seems like this guy wants to be the purveyor of good movies. That said I still enjoyed the conversation especially about Facebook, Google and Apple.

Chuck
>>18849517

Only us woke and civil, highly educated people should shout people down on college campuses

Chuck

Maybe I’m just ignorant but I’m also confused as to how using data and analytics isn’t just going to get the same movies made. Aren’t we looking for outliers and authenticity? Not recreating what’s been successful in the past over and over? Isn’t it the ones that take risks the ones that turn out great and turn out bad?

David Morgan-Brown

I have never heard of anything like a cinema usher introducing the film before it begins, saying who's in it, who the director is, and what the film is about. What the hell is wrong with your country?!!

Phoenix

Well, I guess I have to disagree with most of the comments because this is was one of my favorite interviews so far. Sure, I didn't agree with a lot of what he said at the end, but he was still an interesting character! And it was a lot of fun listening to the discussion around the internet, social media and entrepreneurship. Now, I was a bit floored, actually I mean really floored that he didn't know that The Eagles sang Hotel California 😁 and wasn't really surprised that he was "disappointed" in people for liking conservative views (this is almost everyone in my social circle, annoying but reality), but who cares? It was still an interesting unfiltered interview and I was very entertained throughout. Also, I definitely agree with one of the earlier comments, Halt & Catch Fire is the show to watch about the early tech world, one of my favorite shows period. And yes, the intro about The Happening was gold. Keep em coming.

Darren Ryan

Bret was his usual awesome self, but the guest sounded like he wants to be chief of the Thought Police

FlyingWaffle
>>18936285

Halt and Catch Fire was awesome and very underrated indeed, it started pretty good and kept getting better and better. Especially recommended for fans of Mackenzie Davies and Lee Pace.

Daniel

Get Frankie ocean on here 🌊 bret the goat

Bazayer

Great monologue this week and Stephan was an excellent guest.

Brent Minder

: Programme Bee : ♫ 1. 0:52 - 37:40 Melancholy in the ArcLight, "The Happening" vs "Bird Box" vs "A Quiet Place", "Roma", "Green Book" ♫ 2. 38:11 - 1:16:48 Talk with guest Stephan Paternot (internet, the globe, block chains, social media giants, future of interwebs) ♫ 3. 1:17:24 - 1:49:52 More w/Stephan Paternot (film industry, problems w/agencies, founding and role of Slated) ♫ 4. 1:50:26 - 2:17:30 More w/Stephan Paternot (having a child, tv movies, "Valley of the Boom", 2018 movies, theater vs home movies and viewings) ♫ 5. 2:18:08 - 2:44:20 More w/Stephan Paternot (free speech, politics, Trump, Eagles?, more politics) ♫

john m

Great monologue, Bret, but fuck that guy, most insufferable fraud that’s ever been on the show.

Stephen O'Flynn

Surprised by all the hate for this guest. I thought he was great. He sounds like Armie Hammer's Winklevi boys in The Social Network (both literally and figuratively; the no-nonsense well dressed well spoken confidence) and it's a refreshing change to the deluge of "yuknow"s and "like"s and "idunno"s and "for MEEEEE"s and "Ijustfeltlikeee"s and "yuknow"s and "yuknow"s and "yuknow"s you normally get from some of the mushy-brained guests who don't know anything about anything, including their own work! Thumbs up from me. Also, he's hot. Yum.

Michael MacGowan

A valiant attempt at mixing it up, but this podcast is at its best when Bret goes head to head with other creatives. Thankfully that’s 99 percent of the time.

Guy Lewis

I enjoyed the pod. Particularly when the subject of Trump came up. Stephan started to peddle more air than Wile E. Coyote. As is typical of most of the left he struggled with even the most gentle of questions when his views were challenged. He seemed on the verge of tears when asked about the Eagles!

Steve Earnhart

So, I said to myself, I said, "Steve, take it easy. This guy is just a thought-policing douchebag. Hear him out." But then after thirty more minutes, I said to myself, I said, "Steve, just delete this one. Even Bret doesn't bat a thousand."

Vivian Marran

Another well spent 2 bucks. I “like” listening to these Hollywood guys. Hate their hurt vagina take on politics but I like hearing BEE talk shop with them.

Jasper

All online technology will gradually make us accept a false moral that is enforced upon us by the risk of public shaming/darwinistic defeat. This psychological cleanup will eventually make us accept less and less things and ideas that could offense ANYBODY. When all thinking has shifted, Slate will have it’s moment and Netflix’ Global Cinema will be the new normal.

Sam Willis

Escape At Dammora is as good as Bret was saying - everyone should watch it!!

mortal trash

This guest has no vocal setting other than "proclaim."