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The B.E.E. Podcast - 11/15/19 - Jarett Kobek - SILVER (Patreon)

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Writer Jarett Kobek and Bret Easton Ellis discuss the power of a positive book review, cultivating a film obsession at NYU, pitching I Hate the Internet to television networks and the destruction of the novel by mainstream publishers.

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Darren

Great opening monologue highlighting Bret’s journey from one novel to another, through various failed screenplays and projects, demonstrating just how tough it is to get something made in Hollywood, even for a talent like him. Enjoyed this interview!

M. Nero Nava

Loved the snapshot on the novel and publishing world. My ex girlfriend was heir to a pretty notable publishing company, one I admired as a lit student. And, a deeper admirer as a masters student. I ended up working for her (she didn’t want to work). Once I got into the kitchen and learned how the sausage was made—I was aghast. It taught me to love writing more than ever, and also hate the dead and archaic politics of publishing.

Emerson Korum

As a 25 year old screenwriter who has published a novel and just moved to LA, I’m very triggered by this episode.

Alexander Quattlander

Awesome opening rant! One of your very best. Very personal and inspiring.

Alex Bielovich

Love the podcast image/cover, complete with robe.

Binyamin Ironstone

I love the way this podcast breaks into music to splice up the interviews at, seemingly, the most random times. At one point, talking about PARASITE, Jarett says quietly, “I was supposed to see that with a friend and then didn’t.” Boom. Cut to music. A commentary on the disposability of media in our current culture? Well, maybe. At least I choose to think so. One of the many small, weird things that makes this podcast a must-listen for me.

Billy Vega
>>29073674

That was the most frustrating part of the episode, as I was looking forward to hearing Bret's thoughts on Parasite.

Damien Smith
>>29073674

I often find the music breaks come in after lines that sound like they could close chapters of Bret's novels. I haven't listened to this episode yet, but the example you quoted is really a good example.

Damien Smith

I thought I had everyone beat with my four viewings of "...Hollywood" but no.

Dale Baker

Another great podcast. Bret is the best!! Not digging when the kid tells Bret that White was “preachy” at one point. Then he lost me on the explanation for the camera in the room. And finally, I understood everything I needed to know with his response to The Eagles question.

David Willis

Really good episode one of the best this season.

Billy Vega
>>29117458

Yeah do we really need another similar Trump Derangement Syndrome anecdote each week plus the need for every guest on the show to be asked about it? Unless there's some new insight on the topic, I don't see the point. Bret's obsession with Trump Derangement Syndrome is his own version of TDS.

Chad Byrnes
>>29117458

Right? Bret's getting angry at his liberal pals over expensive dinners and making very grand statements over it. Extreme liberals suck... but so do extreme republicans. He's very selective in his targets... silly.

Matt Serafini

Great episode, Bret. Although your opening was probably the most depressing one yet. I am a young(ish) indie author trying to establish himself with legacy publishing. If ya ever want *that* perspective on your podcast, I'll be there. ;)

Billy Vega
>>29149597

Did we listen to the same monologue? I thought it was an inspirational talk on the restorative power of creative passion.

John Doe

Looks like Ben Lerner is next?

Darren Ryan

Didn't care much for the guest, but the pod is always worth my time. The great news is that we will be getting more fiction from Bret in the future. Cheers!

Kovitch

Great opening monologue. Resonated a lot. I find being immersed in a creative project is akin to getting your meds. Calms everything down; helps you focus. No project and the horrors return.

Michael MacGowan

Bret and Bret fans alike need to be watching the Italian Netflix series Baby, about disaffected teens who start an underage prostitution ring. Good stuff!

MikeE

I could be wrong but if this was a dinner I could see Bret calling for the check at about the hour mark. I certainly would have.

Rob Motto
>>29117458

Lol Bret is non political guys. He lives in Los Angeles in a very liberal bubble so it’s honestly healthy to get a good dose of the other side. Plus Fox was the only major network that had him on with the exception of HBO. At the end of the day it’s business. The outrage is coming from the left, that’s pretty undeniable. It’s not the right wing that’s trying to censor. Sacha Baron Cohen ahem. I say this as a Sanders liberal who doesn’t recognize the Democratic Party. Look at the art, not the artist, thought you guys would have learned that very valuable lesson. The monologues that touch on TDS simply point out the Hollywood “liberal” hypocrisy of acceptance of diversity. Just no diversity of ideas.

Peter litvin

Did anybody actually buy this guys book? I did and it’s getting returned to Amazon tomorrow morning. Horrible. Could not stand his voice. Funny enough, I found him annoying but still liked some of what he had to say on the podcast. On paper though it is unreadable. It reminded me of the book that Delicious Tacos has out which I also thought was horrible and returned.

Michael Walsh
>>29117458

Marvelous job of missing the point, there. Bret is a Hollywood denizen who writes about his milieu, and there are virtually no above-ground right wingers there. Your "they do it too!" remark is as irrelevant as it is telling.

Chad Byrnes

Does anyone know how to find an older episode on here? I'm looking for BEE's interview w/ Bruce Wagner. Can't find it.

nc

We do love Bret. He’s always changing, and he walks us through it in his intros. I love the honesty and vulnerability. Mask off. Request: Emma Cline

James_Sobotka
>>29352950

I bought it the audiobook. Halfway through. Maybe it's the narrator that ruins it. She has this snarky whiny tone that just does not help the "society hates women" premise. I want to like it but not sure I get/agree with the premise. I like a lot of the post-modernist concepts where values are redefined, but the concept that everything on the internet is exploitative is too much. Maybe that's the point. I'm really not sure what to think.

Tommy Stronach

Kobek came across as a pompous douche. Definitely not one of the better guests.

Terrance

Sorry, but Ann Coulter is moderately physically attractive even if she is an “awful person”. She writes like a red pilled hunter S. Thompson...

Alexandru Constantin

This guest was rather annoying. His books give me that annoying liberal smart boy beta male snark.

Phoenix

I swear to god, if one more guest replies to infamous Eagles question with, "The band?" #sofuckingannoying 😁🙄

Jett

I'm glad I listened to this interview. I'm not sure I would have known about this writer otherwise. I'm looking forward to reading I Hate the Internet. It's not my list.

Antonio Primavera

BOOKS: I was in Seattle recently, and wanted to visit a bookstore. The one I saw nearby had a review that called it "very progressive." So...I didn't visit that bookstore. So, yeah, there are readers who are not being accounted by the industry.