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S6E20: The Park Was Never Built with The Perfume Nationalist (Patreon)

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Podcaster The Perfume Nationalist and Bret Easton Ellis discuss sharing a lifelong fascination with Fleetwood Mac's Tusk, Jeffrey Dahmer's victims getting their own Netflix series and feeling Linda Tripp's pain. 

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Andrew McGovern

This and Simon Rex are two of the best BEE podcasts

paul dakota

Never heard of this pc. Thank you.

Rebecca Tague

One of few podcast episodes I’ve listened to more than once. Jack has such a unique perspective, I love him. ❤️

trueblue1098

Great episode, would love to see jack back on the show (or vice versa).

Patrick

Diving in! 😀

PETER GREER

Fabulous episode…thank you

Normaling

Not Bret one upping the Perfume Nationalist with some obscure swedish cologne 😂😂😂

Mike B

I hoped Jack would make it on and I’ve been awaiting the Bros review since I first saw the trailer. This was a perfect episode!

Vincent Nappi

The crossover we never knew we needed.

Patrick

Fantastic. Love Fire Walk With Me getting its due. 🙌

Tom

Great guest / conversation - heard him on red scare recently and now, after this episode, I’ve subscribed to his channel

Jorge Espinha

Good guest. Great review of Bros .

M. Nero Nava

As someone who worked in and out of the beauty product industry—I appreciate Perfume Nationalist. Also, I love talk of old LA, and I’m a big Tusk fan. Fun chat to listen in on.

Poetical Gore

Surprised they didn't bring up Oate's book Zombie...which is pretty much about Dahmer without the name.

Keith campbell

Troop Beverly Hills and Judith Krantz … I am less than halfway through but could this get any gayer ?

richard owain roberts

am going to listen on my run. will say more later, after my run.

Michael Cennamo

BEE and TPN are the two Patreon podcasts I subscribe to. This is wonderful; I hope the two of you talk again!

N.M. Janice.

The backlash and vitriol over Blonde is pure hysterics. If you don’t like the film, fine, but no one is even critiquing it in good faith. Showing a character in a work of fiction have an emotional or complicated response to an abortion is right wing propaganda now? This would be comical if it wasn’t actually happening.

M. Nero Nava

Also, PG keeps saying 2006 when referring to Tusk before “hipsters liked it”, and then saying everyone liked it in the late 2010’s. I worked at a record for twenty years: cool kids always liked this record, it was huge in early 2000’s

aaron weisblatt

Off point- Bret- I went to the Village theater for the first time last week to see Amsterdam. Wow! What a theater! Projection and sound is fabulous. It’s the only theater I will go to now. Amsterdam was so weird- in the middle of it I felt like I was in an insane asylum!

Jon A.

Jack is great. I heard him on Red Scare.

Joseph Murphy

Subscribe to Perfume Nationalist. Been waiting years for this one!

Elizabeth

Amazing! Jack is an awesome guest…must have him back! Would have loved to have heard Bret & Jack get into a conversation about Shampoo…would have been interesting to hear them discuss their different points of view

Elizabeth

Troop Bev Hills is a perfect camp movie - Bret you must watch!

Thomas Edwards

Such fun. Lovely shared humour, and can just picture chuffed Brett rifling through the bathroom showing off his fragrance!

Patrick Crowley

My two favorite podcasters in one room. Fantastic

Collin Myers

can i ask you about your history with fragrance? lol. this podcast never lets me down.

adam r

So good! So glad you had Jack on!

Adam Chin

Jack Mason is the man. Love TPN almost as much as BEEP. Bret, your turn to go on TPN!

K. Joseph

Loved this one. Mirage has some good songs though!

Brendan M Campbell

TPN is a fascinating podcast. Start from the beginning.

Lachlan Reid

Great podcast, but I do miss the opening monologues.

Alex Bielovich

I found a copy of the Oate's "Blonde" in my grandmother's collection in early 2010s - fantastic book (one of her many)

R. M.

Love this. Great guest. Please consider doing monologues once in a while. Totally understandable why you don’t want to do them, but we do love them!

Dave

Drudge would be an awesome guest. In fact, if memory serves, I may have been drawn into the works of BEE via the Drudge site back when the site was at the top of its game (I also became interested in Paglia’s works via the site). On the other hand, BEE notes Drudge is a friend so that may make a podcast invite uncomfortable.

bpvalentine

I only ever heard Tusk when The Americans used it in its pilot. All. I wanted to know is WHAT IS THAT SONG?! The link I've posted (hope that's OK) goes to a Pulp song that makes me think of THE SHARDS every time I've listened to it recently. Something about the mood. The dread that's palpable. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JXbLyi5wgeg

Phoenix

Please do more episodes together. But pushing back on Tango in the Night…it’s a great album!! Also Stevie’s solo album Rock a Little is sooo good. Of course this could be because I’m in the Troop Beverly Hills generation. Still holds up.

bpvalentine
>>93668137

For me, Troop Beverly Hills is best remembered for Jenny Lewis from Rilo Kiley being in the cast. Maybe it's because I'm a dude, but I just couldn't get on board with that movie as a kid. And I was an Outrageous Fortune fan, haha.

Brian Rooney
>>93448297

Lol. It was in our family car trip rotation with Good Burger, Casper, Clue, Gold Diggers: The Secrets of Bear Mountain, Tommy Boy, and Addams Family Values … flooded with memories.

Nick B

Agree on BLONDE. What a fantastic film. Similar situation, most people I’ve spoken to loved the film outside the outraged. Make sure to watch HALLOWEEN ENDS, can’t wait for your response to that…

Pp358
>>93451731

I’ve started looking forward to this comment almost as much as the Eagles q.

Tommy Stronach

Great pod, BEE. More conversations (rather than interviews) with like-minded people would be appreciated!

john m

This is a great episode- great conversation.

Ben

No Down Payment is great. I think it's the first Hollywood movie I'm aware of that isn't a noir that deals with the suburban American dream gone wrong. Joanne Woodward is great. Looking online right now, it looks like you can watch the full movie on YouTube. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1_fOZ_wBJ0Q

Phoenix
>>93668137

It’s because you’re a dude. I was 9 and in Girl Scouts when it came out. Trust me, it was on heavy rotation at sleepovers.

LH

i cannot believe that the Perfume Nationalist and Bret spoke to each other! Who's next?!

bpvalentine
>>93668137

haha. No, I get it. I was just being a dude. To be honest, I hung out with just girls when I was around 9 thru 12. I'm disabled, not gay. (Sorry, I thought that'd be funny.). But seriously, I was jealous of that whole sleepover thing they had. In the end, I was always the dude. Kinda similar to Lloyd in Say Anything except I'm a much less likeable asshole. Even now I don't get along with dudes that well. I'm too weird for them. And they're fucking boring.

Stuart Chivers

The only way to get a radio-friendly, ten-track album out of Tusk is to remove Lindsey’s songs, at which point you lose the thing that makes it so compelling, the juxtaposition of his eccentricity with the more conventional material of Stevie and Christine.

Mark DeCaro

A return to form. Loved it.

David Willis

Although I haven’t gotten past episode six of Dahmer yet I think I will end up having quite a similar view to Bret. The first episode may end up being the best horror film of the year (haven’t seen Barbarian or Smile as I live in Japan) and I found it creepy, disturbing and brilliant in terms of how well they recreated his apartment. It really works as just one full short movie in its own right. It’s gone downhill since then.

David Willis

Completely agree about Blonde. What a fantastic emotional and visual ride. Like a David Lynch Hollywood nightmare so I get the Fire Walk With Me comparison. The reaction is surely coming from trigger warning culture. I noticed on Twitter the other day, an amateur writer was asking whether she should put trigger warnings at the start of her novel because it’s about suicide. Of course not. If you aren’t strong enough to deal with the reality of human pain and suffering don’t read or watch anything. Lock yourself in a padded room.

Phoenix
>>93668137

Haha, good references :) Sleepovers were fun esp in the 80s. Mannequin and Labyrinth were also in heavy rotation

Bazayer

Fantastic guest - Bret and Jack had great rapport, with both super knowledgable about movies.

Don Jolly

Oh shit! I was on TPN a few years back. Cool to see Jack here!