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S6E29: Chronicling a Lost Continent with Walter Kirn (Patreon)

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Writer Walter Kirn and Bret Easton Ellis discuss witnessing the true meaning of Christmas come alive on the December dance floors of elite holiday parties, the contemporary need for a daring rascal to crack open cultural illusions and authors of yesteryear following orders from Dr. Freud.   

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Jack Wheatley
>>97842645

Sounds like they’re talking about the Andaz which used to be the infamous Riot (Hyatt) House on Sunset back in the day.

Jack Wheatley
>>97842645

Actually should’ve listened to the end. Not Andaz. But i remember the Whisky Bar in West Hollywood and the hotel. Just can’t remember the hotel name.

Elizabeth

Love a Walter Kirn conversation (my favorite guest of the pod)

Steve

Fantastic episode. At times these two curmudgeons sound like The Sunshine Boys. Then they sound like the two most articulate and free-thinking people left in America. A+

Seneca Garcia

I finally got around to watching Up In The Air tonite - what a wonderful movie 🛫💻🌐☕️🥃

PETER GREER

Fantastic episode, thanks ….

M. Nero Nava

Really enjoyed the talk of old LA and NY. The show shit the bed when we started talking about the greatness of the Steve Gutfeld show-(a political show for mouth breathers and incels). Then we got into some pseudo Qanon stuff… we’ll always have last week, I guess

Jorge Espinha

I really enjoyed the chat. Mr Kirn is a pleasure to hear.

Patrick
>>97480704

Unfortunately, I’ve come to expect and accept it here. It’s very embarrassing and cringe-worthy how out of it and bubble-like their takes are on the real world. Anyhoo, the beginning and the end were strong despite the thirty-minute snooze fest in the middle. I mostly just laughed it off and felt sorry for them. Imagine being so happily misinformed. Scary! But, who cares?! Cheers to the podcast, this episode, and his guest!🥂😝❤️

M. Nero Nava
>>97480704

Yeah, you always get butt hurt when I make fun of incels, right wingers, and mouth breathers. Snowflakes, precious snowflakes

Jorge Espinha

My chief criticism about Millennial’s bating is that they didn’t sprinted fully formed from a spring. The majority of millennials had Gen X parents. We screwed them! It’s on us!

Travis Films
>>97480704

How are they misinformed and how do you know that you're not over informed about a number of things that aren't true?

Devils 1973

WK is a great guest. Loved how this conversation had such an effortless back and forth. It almost had the casual feel of one of your monologues - just with another person in the mix 🙌🏼

Nathan Duin
>>97480704

Kirn is genuinely grand and funny in small doses, but the shitting of the bed is always inevitable. Usually he makes me sleepy with his Foster Wallace fellating and his attempts to chop down Franzen but now he's added internet troll to his resume.

richard owain roberts

am going to listen on my run. will say more later, after my run.

Nick Not Nolte

hot talk. but i’ll never understand how people this old are somewhat surprised politicians are gonna do politics and try to protect their best interest. this wasn’t invented in 2016, this has always been but legit never shown like it had in the last decade. also, no one cares.

George Quartz
>>97480704

He had some great takes, but then said ‘…and the thing I hate about young people’. …Because they’re young and he isn’t. Game over, man.

M. Nero Nava
>>97590424

Played a show with Pink before. He’s just a rich tweaker. But I mostly agree with you

George Quartz
>>97590424

You ain’t lying. I have as well. He‘s intelligent and at the perfect age to balance the argument, maybe.

Harrison Bergeron

Awesome, urgent, interesting podcast. Love it. Ignore lame comments from people who'd rather you review the latest Ryan Murphy dreck and ignore the big subjects. Thanks for letting us sit in on this fascinating REAL talk.

Keith campbell

I liked Walter Kirn’s previous appearance but what on earth are these guys on about, equivocating for Kanye ! A mentally ill celebrity spouting hateful gibberish

Jen Gray

LOVE this episode

Brian Rooney

I dunno, I dunno … This has already aged poorly with the recent “Twitter Files”.

Nick B

Excellent conversation. “Approved discourse” has sucked the life out of Los Angeles. Endless hysteria. You have to have Bari on next!

Frenk van Harreveld

This was the least interesting and most unlikable guest since the last time he was on. I enjoy lambasting woke ideological groupthink as much as anyone, but Kirn is going full conspiracy theorist nut job here. The liberal elites are creating a web by marrying each other and going to each others therapists? Pal, that’s what elites have been doing since the dawn of time regardless of ideology 😆 The discussion about Kanye was just incredible, trying to turn an obvious case of mental illness into some kind of piece of art. Oh and where are these Twitter files you speak of? 🤡

Ashley

I listened to this episode 3 times. What are people going on about? It was great. I think it hits differently when you live in Los Angeles.

Dave

Loved this episode and how these two so eloquently capture the state of the culture and where we’re at as a nation.

Peter Guzzo

Walter Kirn is always a great guest.

Phoenix

Great interview. I hope there’s a part 2. And as a side note, would love Bret’s commentary on season 2 of White Lotus.

Stephen

Kirn sounds like he hasn't cleared his throat in a decade.

Ben

Kirn is a wonderful guest. Very insightful.

Thumperdinck

Love Walter Kern! He should be a reg.

Antonio Primavera

Walter Kern is a breath of fresh air! I'm glad to see that not everyone in the US is fucking insane.

Matt Wall

What hotel do you think he was staying at?

Tommy Stronach

Great pod, Bret. Keep having Walter on.

Thomas Matich

Great episode overall. But have to disagree on Gutfeld. He is the most mean spirited guy in late night by far. Not that any of them are funny, but his “jokes” are the least funniest crap ever, with some of the worst delivery.

Max Armstrong

“I have insider information that I can’t share” 🤣🤣🤣🤣

Billy Schafer
>>97925673

I agree. I never cared for Greg Gutfeld. However, I recently learned that one of my favorite comedians, Nick Di Paolo, occasionally submits jokes to him to read on the air. Nick has that gruff, acerbic, east coast disposition that reminds me of the working class Italian-American culture I grew up with in New York. His delivery is like a guy busting balls in a bar with his buddies after work. Gutfeld comes off like the kid in class who tries to cut you down with a snarky remark after you just tried making a point to the teacher. Delivery, style, and personality are key.

bpvalentine
>>97925673

My brother has been living in my house a little while. The TV is ALWAYS on if he's not off taking a nap. He's really into the FOX holy trinity. The Five. Tucker. Greg Gutfeld. I'll give one thing to GG. He has great taste in music. He's also a crime against funny. I'm pretty sure he does a lot of coke, too. He's nearly vibrating in his seat half the time. Then some day's he'll be hunched over the table on the Five and glowering at everyone. Like, gee, did you miss your B-12 shot today? I really don't get what people, my brother especially, what do they see in him? It can't be just about his politics, can it? Honestly, I don't care about his politics. Cable news is full of ridiculous TV personalities. My sister is a loud and proud lefty who says so and so on CNN is bad, too, yes, GG makes her look like ______ (enter your favorite classic news reader who remained publicly neutral on politics.). That's silly, of course. CNN and other went years right up until recently hardly covering any news that wasn't Trump oriented. I'm assuming you will disagree with me and that's fine with me. Changing anyone's mind isn't what I set out to do. We can at least agree that conservatives aren't funny. And that we need to get the number of GG's dealer.

Matteo Persivale

There were really impressive moments by Kirn — Trump (who uses a gold toilet and lied about donating his presidential salary to charity) described as the defender of the underclass, Taibbi the “muckraker” anti capitalist who’s publishing on Twitter material provided to him by the world’s richest man who also owns Twitter. They lost me at the Kanye thing, defending the indefensible stops being funny when the indefensible guy is on record as loving Hitler.