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Essay incoming! [scroll to the end to read a heartbreaking letter I found in a gay priest book]

I think Cliff is almost drawn to Eugene in a reverent way, he wants Eugene to love him, he wants to be good, he wants to be like him. However. He also wants to drag him down to his level.

Eugene can see that Cliff won't try as hard to change if it's not for him, so he accepts Cliff's help. He knows its dangerous to be in such close quarters, but thinks he can make it work! Also nobody else knows Cliff does sex work, or that he's gay, so for Eugene it's actually not the riskiest, in terms of gossip. A younger woman would be much worse! The nuns know Cliff is a troublemaker because he went to the school, but they don't know much else.

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I think with regards to Cliff wearing a crucifix, he put it on in the morning, and lost confidence in his decision when Eugene points it out. He thinks Eugene will think he's fake, or silly. In truth he's just conflicted! Eugene is excited about it, though, it strengthens his resolve to help Cliff become more faithful. Personally there's not that much joy in reading a relationship where it's All pull, I want it to be a push and pull. I think if Cliff was clearly just trying to be a bad influence, Eugene wouldn't get involved half as much. But because he can see such potential there, he's hooked...
I watched a movie that was kind of bad (the good catholic) where it was a woman being really romantically pushy to a priest who tbh really did seem to just want to be close friends. I think I kind of...kept that in mind, with this. I want them both to be good, I want them both to be bad.

Also, I'm excited to get a bit more of Father Eugene's sass in here haha. I think he's letting his guard down a little with Cliff. I almost had his [shutting the fridge] line as 'alright mother!' and for Cliff to reply 'Father >:)' in the bottom panel. I thought it was a little shoehorned, but I liked it lol. Maybe I'll keep it for another time when Cliff can call Eugene mother, because that is far more accurate, in terms of gay roles.

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So you can see I went nuts with the backgrounds, I made the kitchen quite 60/70's because I want it to be a bit out of date! Eugene has only been there a couple of years I think*, but a lot of the cute extras are his. Including the obnoxious tupperware collection, because he can't cook, and often people gift him food and baked goods. He always asks if they could label the containers, but they never do- so he has Far more than will fit in a cupboard.
Building wise it's not the original rectory- which are usually really grand- I wanted him to have something smaller and cosier. I figure the town sold the rectory for the funds, since a single priest doesn't really need the space and the upkeep is expensive. Maybe previously they had a few priests but with the dwindling Catholic community they cut down lol. I think they need more priests though, I've written a big church for just one man, and he is struggling to keep his head above water.
*typically they rotate every 6 years, though they can stay longer.

I actually also spent quite a bit of time looking up what priest schedules are like and those poor fuckers are Busy. I imagine he does confessions and then a morning mass most if not all days, weddings, funerals and baptisms etc are fitted in too, and then there's home visits, hospital visits, and last rites. He has a role in the Catholic school, so probably pops in for a lesson a few times a week, as well as helping the parish organise events and fundraisers. I imagine at the end of the day he goes home, takes care of the paperwork that he can't outsource, writes his daily homilies, and prays! Housework kind of gets pushed aside... it's clean but it sure ain't tidy. I think this man is living on ready meals and gifted food. Thing is, Cliff can't cook either ;).

Yes the iron Did need to be period appropriate. It was important (it wasn't)I used a house next door to one we viewed as inspiration for the room layout, because i really liked the low wood ceiling, and also tbh it's just easier to visualise when you have a solid ref. (I looked it up because I was nosy and I was like damn, this ones nicer than the one we're looking at...) Kind of related, thank you for giving me enough money to even Think about looking at buying a house. What the fuck :). Love you all.

I also found a smaller church to ref than the other one I had before, you can see I used the building layout here but added a garden and a hill to make it feel more private! I imagine the gardens are maintained by volunteers, and some of the flower beds are used for the kids to learn how to grow things.

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Lets see, what else...
Oh, I've been reading! I wanted to read some experiences of priests/people who have reconciled their religion with their sexuality, and it's been so interesting and insightful!

I will say that the one about gay Catholic Ireland is kind of mediocre though lol. The foreword is by a priest saying 'it manages not to insult anyone!' and yeah, no shit, it takes no sides and says very little of value. I did get *some* info about what Eugene's Irish childhood would have been like, though!
I blasted through the three smaller ones in a day each whoops. I always struggle to find time for reading, but when its for an Interest? BOY.
 I am halfway through 'In the Closet of the Vatican' (which is amazing, if dense, it's 550 pgs) Francesco Leopore who worked in the Vatican says he's pretty sure abt 80% of the members there are gay. He says they use the phrase 'part of the parish' to mean gay. It's amazing, I am having so much fun. The book also found out that they use Grindr regularly in there...whoops. 

Also I have to share this, it made me cry great big ghibli tears in record time. The books are all second hand, and this letter was in the pages of Gay Priest.

(transcript for the letter is below)

Transcript-

Fr Mel, You are in my thoughts and prayers and so is your friend Charles who's gone home to God.
Words are empty when someone loses a friend but I just want to tell you my prayers are with you.
Thanks for being such a radiant light so full of the life and love of Christ.
Your presence gives life.
Deep deep peace, Nora

 I can only assume Charles was Father Mels partner, I don't know if it was gifted with the book, but it seems likely. It was tucked into the start of the chapter about being honest about your gay identity.

On that fucking heartbreaking note, I will say goodnight, I hope you all have a good day or evening <3

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Frog

I don't think you understand how babygirl Eugene is, I need this man physically, biblically, carnally, in literally every way one could have a man..... AUGH he's such a sassy tart....... Please, sir, more!!!!

ManyMari

god I'm so invested in these two this is great

Frog

Okay horny brainworms aside, I don't think words can express how in love I am with how you're developing their dynamic.... AND the world around them. As a Brit currently working on their religious (blasphemous) historical fiction, this hits JUST right, man

Mercury

I love how much thought and work you put into your characters and their stories! It really makes it come alive and is just beautiful to take in. I could stare at it for hours, truly. I know we're very horny on here, but your sfw stories are brilliant as well and I always look forward to them! Love these two!!

Ace

I didn't think they could get any better but the level of research is just incredible 🩷

Vi V.

That last panel tho 😭

hienough

You really cooked with the backgrounds on this one! I love their personalities shining through. The caption was a great read too! :)

dogrosepink

I look forward to their content so bad I LOVE HOW THEY'RE WRITTEN AND HOW LOVELY THEY ARE ALREADY,,, ACKKGKGH I can't put my brainrot into words 😭😭

Alex Keller

I love these two more than life itself ;-; So freaking GOOOD

OogBoog

*tips over* this is pure joy. Love. All of the love.

MantisShrimp

Reiterating what many others have said, the amount of care you put in to your characters thought processes, environments, motivations, etc. elevates these comics to another level. It’d be very easy to have them be more dependent on the priest/temptation tropes that they fill, but they’re so much more. I care about them so much! And that makes the porn hotter!

skylerscribblez

Cliff likes him so much he's willing to be domestic WAAAAA

Amiable-apparition

Ohhhhh I'm absolutely in love with this. The closeness gained by spending time helping, and opening up when you need help. I really like the idea of them both needing help, and that tip toeing when doing so. Like you said it doesn't really work if it's one sided. And as you mentioned the rectory the priests live in are tiny! I have only been in one myself (my husband's uncle) and his was on the "rather nice" end. Even then, I felt that most of the decorating and niceness of the place so to speak were around the personal prayer area and a comfy little couch/fire pit and reading spot. So, even then not exactly fancy stuff.

MelvinTheDepressedRobot

I love the amount of research and reference you put in - my (very very catholic) nan lives by a convent (they own the house too) and I couldn't tell you a date, but it's certainly old-fashioned, and I can definitely feel a lot of the same vibes here. Shame I didn't think to snap any pics when I was up there a few weeks ago! I love the push and pull of their relationship too, you've absolutely nailed the chemistry between them!

voidflowers

Ahhhhhh this is so delightful

Inkycapomen

The way I am invested in this is totally normal. I think there are a lot of interesting dynamics that can go into a queer story involving religion, and some stories forego that to focus on the more erotic aspects; which is fine too! But I love how much thought and care you put into your stories. There is a lot of life and love here. I kiss them both gently on the head.

Daisy

This is so lovely I'm like crying so hard about it

Kaylee

I am so invested in the push and pull of these two. I totally agree it’s fun for NSFW side projects that they play extremes, but the plot calls for substance! Which is exactly what you are delivering! I adore Eugene’s little residence and Cliff waltzing in being like welp someone has to take care of your ass Eugene might as well be me lol I was terrible worried he was going to bump that period accurate iron over and burn himself or the whole place down! I am so interested in the books you are reading and especially that note that just broke my heart 💔 you are really pouring your time into these two and it shows ❤️

3 Frogs in a Trenchcoat

UGH. They're so fucking cute I can't stand them. Love their little banter so much and the backgrounds??? Absolutely gorgeous.I am rabid for lore on these two they have invaded my psyche. I love them so much

sunny

GOD they are GAY and in LOVE (kind of) and i am OBSESSED

Cryptidcreature

So i obviously really like the smut, but this catty banter, the way cliff pushes eugene and eugene is so kind and oblivious (maybe not oblivious, but in denial i guess) and their slow burn taboo romance is chefs kiss

cramp

I really like the scenery in the first panel, it's beautiful. The shadows of the trees on the building are really good. the non-shadow parts look so bright. I also like the way the tiled window frames are visible through the curtain in the third panel

NEC

This is the slowest most delicious slow burn yet! I love the depiction of cliffs nose from all different angles and father Eugene’s many blushes. You’re the best ❤️

raspjasp

amazing as always, you always go above and beyond

Johnny

oh they are so cute together they are everything. they make me sick, they drive me crazy, i love them so much it's actually insane.

Johnny

the art is so breathtaking and i'm actually tearing up a little at the cross thing omg

KnightSmudge

I have been eagerly awaiting more of these two both lore and context and I have so much to say so let's see if I can hash this out. First of all- the pull and push is FANTASTIC. I was curious to see how far this would go and I completely understand the desire to drag Eugene down to his level... but adding in a touch of /wanting/ to do good to get on Eugene's good side, to be a good boy for him, its fantastic. It adds so much more of a dynamic to the two. This is just a passive observer comment but it feels like Cliff pushing Eugene's boundaries is allowing him to experience and try new things that would perhaps only be thoughts, even if they are on the end of a bit naughty/troublesome haha. It makes a lot of sense for the two to have more of a reason to be invested in each other rather than Cliff just pushing and pushing. It's interesting. It also shows a lot, at least in my eyes, on how Cliff behaves/the kind of person he wants attention from. It's ough. It's very very /very/ good, and I am eagerly awaiting more from them. Secondly. The set design??? THE LORE FOR THE SET DESIGN? I hope it's not odd for me to say but the amount of work you put into researching for scenes, historical periods and the like is INSPIRING. It makes me want to start doing more. I know these deep dives probably take time but I can assure you from a reader it makes the whole thing feel more set in its period than not. At this point I'm starting to become more excited for your deep dives and recommendations than the NSFW I came here for haha! You are a fantastic story teller and I am eagerly awaiting with bated breath for more of these two, this is delightful. Thank you for sharing them as always!!

malacandrax

dfjbdfgj a sassy tart oh my God. thank you for this haha

malacandrax

ahh thank you very very much! I'm having such a great time researching and building them up heehee >:)

malacandrax

Thank you so so much! Its been really rewarding to give myself the time to do this kind of thing tbh (thanks to patrons!!)

malacandrax

aw thank you so much! I love doing it, I feel like the more I do the more real they become!

malacandrax

Thanks so much! I had a great time with the backgrounds and im glad it shows!

malacandrax

thank you so much! I have plenty more coming >:)c

malacandrax

Its so lovely to hear that, thank you so much! I feel like the longer I spend drawing them the realer they get, it's been so fun to work it out naturally like this, despite them starting out more cliche!

malacandrax

I'm so glad you're enjoying it! Yeah! I think Eugene needs someone who isn't afraid to be real with him.

malacandrax

Thank you as always! My great aunts house was very much still stuck in the 60s too, she even wore pinafores and had a big perm, it was great.

malacandrax

Thank you so so much! I've really enjoyed making them both feel more human, and like they might actually have existed.

malacandrax

Heehee thank you very much, I'm really excited to get more into it! Also not to worry, it was unplugged haha. Also re the note! Yes! Im still so blown away to be honest.

malacandrax

I just start drawing an object and then I'm like. well. I might as WELL do it Right!!!

malacandrax

I think Eugene isn't completely sure if he's being teased, or if its genuine flirting :3. Also thank you!

malacandrax

aw thank you so much! I really enjoyed drawing the sun and shadows! Lighting is maybe my favourite thing, but I don't often allow time for it haha

malacandrax

lmaooo thank you! Me in my pit of books and blog posts like a madman...

malacandrax

ough thank you! thank you! I am very glad its hitting those emotions >:) I added that in last minute and it made me emotional to draw tbh, his uncertain faces ;-;!

malacandrax

eats this comment wowow thank you! Re pushing and pushing-yes! I feel like because Cliff genuinely likes and respects Eugene it would make him kind of an unlikeable/unbelievable character to just keep on pushing when Eugene is trying to resist. BUT I think Eugene getting into his space and sassing back a little makes Cliff feel like there’s something there that he wants to see more of! So it’s a fun balance hehe. I’m also really glad the added good boy dynamic is something other people are excited about too, I was worried it would water down the bad boy trope, but I think it’s more exciting to have nuance sometimes! Also yes! I think Cliff is a little lost, and he does see a role model in Eugene, and doesn’t want to lose his attention ;;. Also! Ty haha! I feel like the more I research the more real they become, so it’s very compelling to do! It’s so exciting to find something and be like! I can use this! Eugene would like this/ I wonder if this would impact their story/ I wonder how this thing would work etc! I have an absolute TON of things I want to write tbh… I have so many short comics planned and I wish there was more time in the day! Wrt getting u invested in the sfw more- I am so flattered! That's so exciting >:)

Kaylee

Oh good! 😬 I was watching the iron like a hawk cause I know my clumsy ass would knock it over try to catch it and burn myself 😅 I keep going back to the last page the softness on both Eugene and Cliff’s faces makes my heart melt. It was such a fragile moment Cliff is exposed/ vulnerable because he is trying with the crucifix and would feel like maybe I am a faker and Eugene could have crush him if he laughed or dismissed him but Eugene handled it perfectly 🥹

strachowyjec

oh my god this post made me so emotional becouse of all of the work you put into reserch and how much you care about your work , and the letter was the cherry on top...brb crying over it and all of the wonderful panels

Soupbiznis

I actually really like that you said it wouldt just be cliff pushing, it feels more like they'll develop a friendship where it would feel more natural for the eventual temptation of the priest to happen. I'm a big fan of this development and Cliff still being cheeky while actually waiting to help Eugene be less clearly overwhelmed with the clutter and housework. >:3 I wonder if this'll lead to it being easier if cliff stayed over for a night or two so he can be there early in the morning to continue helping out.. (obv just me guessing as to where this may go pls don't feel like I'm saying that's what SHOULD happen ><)

Soupbiznis

Also we love an overworked man who slips into accepting help and comfort eventually :D

melomel

Oh no, my religious trauma! The last page made me tear up big time. I also read every word of this post, I love the background so much! Your research is so interesting. And yeah, there are a lot of religious folks who have reconciled our religion and sexuality (and I'm friends with priests who are among them.) There are lots of fascinating accounts out there to read.

ainzzl

This is so good and sweet, I think I need to lay down ❤️

SubserveMoth

I adore all of the thoughtful detail you put into them, their setting, and their story! I love the comics but getting to read about all of that behind the scenes stuff is my favorite part. I imagine I've mentioned this before somewhere (horrible memory sorry) but at an estate sale it was so clear the couple who lived there were two lesbians. then I learned from a worker that one was a nun who found herself/her sexuality and left the church! they remind me so much of that story, and I love that you found a similar little thing at the end of this post. I love finding these little snippets of queer stories, which I have been doing a lot more lately! keep up the great work :)

malacandrax

yess thank you so much for this sweet comment. I'm glad you're also in favour of a softer dynamic between them, I want there to be more of a building of...deeper feelings that are harder to ignore >:)

malacandrax

right I think its kind of lovely, the level of devotion to religion that like... they can't just give it up, its too much a part of them.

malacandrax

ohhh thats so so sweet! Thank you for sharing! and thank you for the lovely comment, im really glad the research is interesting to read!

win

they make me Sick aouhhh i love them so much

rits

If you actually do end up buying a house because of Patreon, you would be the second one of my followed artists to do so. The third one's living situation improved significantly because of it, and the fourth one finally has enough stable income that he's able to spend more time with his partner. Patreon is so amazing in this way. I hope you will be able to go through with it someday!! You are just baffling with the level of research and dedication you put into your work. Unsure if it's a hyperfixation or work ethic, but either way, you are incredible. Also holy shit, that letter :(((((((

malacandrax

I'm so so grateful, genuinely never expected so much support! (also haha...yeah absolutely a fixation, interests take over my life and there's no stopping it!)

Bird

Just noticed in my chronological reread that in the panel with the iron there's a piece of mail with the start of Eugene's last name, have we ever gotten that before? 🤔🥺

malacandrax

Its Eugene Cleary! (And Clifford Marsden)