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Two guests, one wild story. Ben Owen and Ryan Dalton join the show to break down their 2026 expedition to Little St. James, Jeffrey Epstein's former private island, and what happened when it went sideways.

Ben Owen is the founder of We Fight Monsters, a Memphis-based anti-trafficking and addiction nonprofit. A recovered drug addict turned activist, he made national headlines in April 2026 after being detained on the island during a trip to document the property and raise questions about the Epstein case, an incident that ended with a trespassing charge and a disputed account of how he was restrained.

Ryan Dalton is a former federal agent, attorney, and co-founder of Closed Horizon, a crowdsourced intelligence and reward platform focused on high-profile investigations. A University of Memphis Law School graduate who once served as a federal agent with the U.S. State Department, Dalton has publicly challenged the official narrative around Epstein's death and helped lead the expedition.

We get into what drew them to the island, what they found, the confrontation that followed, and why they believe the Epstein story is far from closed.

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Noname

Took long enough I was waiting lol

John Arends

Ben and Jessica Owen are the truth.

Lynzie Cox

Go Max Shawn Ryan!! Thank you for all you are doing!

Deb Esposito

This is beyond depressing. I think the 2nd time I felt that I was living in a delusional idea of a truth that does not exist...(regarding the governments intent/agenda) Was driving through a military organized drive through covid test in the P lot of SBU. LI, NY It was surreal. It 💯 Agree we all need to collectively fight this. I Agree with everything that you have said.... We can't accept this... Or the surveillance.

Libby

This is amazing, thank you guys for speaking on this!!!!! ❤️❤️🫶🏼

Logan Bryant

I was there on the island March first 2026 for the kidnapping of the Spaniards he referenced (35 minutes into podcast). I went there to explore and go on a run (March first on my Strava). What a crazy story. I am glad this story has been shared because some people didn’t believe me when I told them what all still happens on that island and happened while I was there. I am glad everyone made it out and is ok. If you want the full story of the March first incident or don’t believe me there is a video on my YouTube channel (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aY7GMAyRrNA) posted well before anything was reported with every detail correct. Thank you for bringing my experience and this experience to light and providing a platform to fight evil.

Deb Esposito

Bill Barr visited JE in the jail.

JCBell

As a "boomer "Ive been sick n tired of Iseral for yrs but was always told I was wrong well look at our country now

Ben Owen

I love you guys!!!!

Pat

Shawn getting fired up about Isreal makes me dick hard

Melissa Royer

Why don’t they seize everyones assests under the guise of running an illegal international enterprise if not the FBI then INTEPOL or the IRS

Tyler Studt - TRIBE 4 Children

Twist my arm. I spose ill give this a watch! 😆 🤣 Glad you're off the Island brother and safe. Now it's time for the People to wake up and start acting instead of sitting comfortably!

Tee Lock

I wish it’d been a live show. This was a great episode and I really admire their guts and commitment. Ben and Owen are 💯/💯 and I’m glad they aren’t letting up on what is turning out to be an unbelievable 🤮 cover up. I’m rooting for y’all 🙌🏼

Anna Lloyd

Candace Owens has the Fake and Gay shirts already! Go get yourself some because it’s just so true!

Austin

Shawn, should seriously consider getting CivDiv on your show. I feel like he’d be perfect. He has combat experience in Iraq, Syria, Ukraine (infantry and drone team), and is now helping Taiwan prepare. The man is a beast and super humble. His YouTube: @CivDiv Instagram: @civdivision

Whitney Hilliard

Shawn asked the question, why did they even let Epstein get arrested in the first place… my thought, since this is clearly a spiritual war, this is to set up the Antichrist. Epstein being caught and the exposure of all the babies being eaten, children being trafficked, etc; sets the stage for the AC to come in and say how he will set the world right and get rid of all of the corruption, etc lies, etc lies, so that people really think he is the true god and trick people into believing him and turn them away from the one true God. Everyone, keep your eyes open. Christ is King!

Justin Mason

I just started thinking about the last email that was sent. The “You’re dead email”… Why would someone take the time to write an email to someone who is deceased talking about their death? This was such an incredible episode. I can’t wait to see this on YouTube and the traction it gets. God Bless these men and God speed.

Boudicca

You know, I look back at my decision not to have kids and I am so happy. Because I am not even kidding when I say I’d be terrified. Now I just worry about my nieces and nephews.

Robert Diggins

Thanks to all 3 of you. Facing facts and questioning authority, in-group, requires some role models. TO: Ryan Dalton As I have put in Direct Messages to VE/SRS for Shawn, I want you to know there are two FBI-WFO insiders with the File IDs of 30 years of Epstein related FISA Surveillance. Categorically different than "The Epstein Files", these are FISC court approved, professionally done, targeted wiretaps. Footage of crimes meant for prosecution. They're described as over a million in number, and implicate at least a dozen from Congress and a SCOTUS Justice. Sibel Edmonds is my close friend, FBI whistle blower, and Founder of the National Security Whistle Blower Coalition (NSWBC), for which she vetted about 150 members (Colleen Rowley, Lt Col Anthony Shaffer, NSA Russel Tice and many other names you might recognize) in the early 2000s... Sibel was approached on behalf of these 2 insiders/potential whistle blowers, for advice. She did her best to try to help them get the FISA surveillance files to Congress during the "investigation". They had first tried to get the files to the DOJ, but this was blocked and they were told to "stay out of it". This is the same problem that Sibel encountered 25 years ago, when she was trying to inform the public that the FBI had footage of Dennis Hastert rpng boys in his offices in DC and Chicago. Some of these boys were from foreign entities, as part of criminal dealings and captured by FISA/FISC approved investigations. Vanity Fair published an article about Sibel, titled 'An Inconvenient Patriot', about her whistle blowing journey. Hastert was still the Speaker of The House and Sibel was trying desperately to get them to include it in that article. They said they needed more and more high level FBI to go on the record. She provided three additional, who were ready to help stop it. In the end, Vanity Fair said their Legal department would not let them include it. That's how bad the "press" has been, since the early 2000s. Sibel was subpoenaed to testify in a defamation case, during a political campaign in Illinois, KRIKORIAN v SCHMIDT 2009, and the FBI demanded that she couldn't testify. Not only did she do it, despite their demands, she put out a press release beforehand, saying she was going to call their bluff. She gave| a sworn deposition that lasted more than 4 hours. She exposed Dennis Hastert in that sworn testimony, in open court, along with many other names, crimes, and sources. The main confirmation that was being asked of her, and she provided confirmation, that the STILL SITTING CONGRESSWOMAN, Jan Schakowski, had been hooked, filmed, and compromised by female honeypots from both Turkey and Israel, for whom she committed espionage and passed information to them through AIPAC. Funny thing, after being a vindicated FBI whistle blower (IG Report and bipartisan congressional investigation) who had been on 60 Minutes and other national media, ...NOT A SINGLE MSM REPORTER SHOWED UP FOR HER DEPOSITION IN THIS POLITICAL INTRIGUE CASE! 🤔 And, in 2009, a media blackout still worked. So, most people don't know about the evidence she provided that day in 2009. No criminal investigations, etc. Now, they flood the zone, as you mentioned with the "Epstein didn't kill himself" strategy. I thought about that 3rd option immediately. But, I also told my wife, "Those f*ckers did it!", before noon, on 9/11/2001. I was referring to the Iran Contra Scandal f*ckers. Neocons. Well, back to the 2 insiders with FISA surveillance file IDs, Congress said no thanks, and so did THOMAS MASSIE. (I'm sorry, all you believers!) Sibel said their only option left was to try to get the story out by sending it to every outlet possible. Not much of an option, but we have a COMPLETELY ROTTEN GOVERNMENT AND CONTROLLED MEDIA.. The new media is even more controlled, with the ability to censor without anyone knowing (Shadow banning) and dial in what individuals see, using algorithms. But, if there was a very large megaphone 📣 that has now come to the realization that so many of us came to decades ago, I think it's worth connecting VERY COURAGEOUS people. Sibel suffered personal and professional retaliation and it was as scary as you can imagine. She received the PEN/NEWMAN'S OWN 1st Amendment Award and was deemed the most classified person in US history by the ACLU, after Ashcroft and the W Bush Administration used THREE State Secrets Privilege gag orders in her case, one of which also RETROACTIVELY GAGGED CONGRESS, if you can believe that! Of course, Congress acquiesced and shit down their investigation and tool down reports, corroborating her story, which had been published online for more than 6 months. But THEY NEVER SHUT HER UP. It's only now, very recently, that she has started talking about giving up on the USA. That's very sad, but I was very surprised to hear that sentiment creeping into this interview. I still agree with you, that we need to clean our own house first and that we have the best written constitution in the world. 9/11 allowed them to pull the pre-written Patriot Act off the shelf and start turning the USA into a national security state, with the citizens begging to hand over Liberty for more security, for 25 years now. Actually, I see COVID as the other bookend. They've completed and tested the new system. Now things are getting uglier and uglier. BUT WE STILL HAVE PEOPLE LIKE YOU AND THE FBI INSIDERS WHO WANT TO DO RIGHT. AND, WE HAVE A UNIQUE MOMENT, WITH THE USA UNIFOED ON THE EPSTEIN FILES, REGARDLESS OF THE PATH THEY TOOK. THIS IS A UNIQUE OPPORTUNITY, IF WE COULD GET SOME REAL INFORMATION TO THE PEOPLE, ALL AT ONCE... WE COULD USE SHOCK AND AWE, AS IT HAS BEEN USED AGAINST US, AND OTHERS. You can contact me through Shawn (Direct Message) and I can connect you with Sibel. Thank you for your efforts and inspiration.

Robert Diggins

🎯 FOCUS ON THIS, ALWAYS: COUNTER INTELLIGENCE HAS THE GOODS, BUT THAT'S WHAT IS USED FOR BLACKMAIL CONTROL OF GOVERNMENT. COUNTER TERRORISM AND THE DOJ DO NOT GET THE GOODS, TO DO THEIR JOBS. WHEN YOU SAY COUNTER INTELLIGENCE, THINK PRECISELY OF THE 1978 FISA LAW AND THE PROFESSIONALLY DONE COURT APPROVED (EACH TIME) SURVEILLANCE, AKA "WIRETAPS", THAT INCLUDES FOOTAGE OF THE CRIMES. ⚠️ UNTIL YOU COMPREHEND THIS SIMPLE NOTION, YOU ARE OPERATING IN TOTAL GASLIGHTING, AS ARE THE SOCIAL MEDIA INFLUENCERS IN YOUR "FEED". 💡 🙏

Rob P

my theory on epstein getting arrested this last time was exactly to do this. fake his death and disappear. he was getting too much publicity. Now he can still run things in the shadows like previous years. Also this aligns perfect with what Julian Dorey discovered with Everyday Spook Bustamante on Discovery. Check Julian podcast about it. There was a secret room in epstein cell.

Bat Wings

Excellent interview! He displays such courage and professionalism - I wish them the best! God Bless you all Ryan

Sarah Wadas

There is One source for objective truth, peace and gaining wisdom to know the best way to forge a path forward for our country and that is only through spending significant time in the Bible and in prayer. Having the discipline to dig into the Word every day will change your peace and outlook. Blessings to you both.

Eoin Brennan

While I completely respect people with faith and their reference to reading scripture to keep them whole, I don’t believe that you need to have faith to understand that being a good, loving and caring human being who believes in honesty and decency in society, protecting the vulnerable and fighting for the democratic values that serve a free and equal society. I am not of any faith but I try hard to live my life by those values. My parents gave me those values. My friends hold those values. Shawn and these two men stand for these values and have given people like me belief that there are many of us in this world. We all need to protect it. It’s shows like this that give me faith in the future. More good people than bad. We just need to organise again. ❤️🇮🇪🙏

Kalob S

Shawn Ryan, Thank you for your service to the country we call home for the long sleepless nights at war, and for standing against the seemingly endless evil in this world , Thank you for bringing the truth to light,exposing the lies, and for giving these good men a platform to stand on ,thats uncensored, the truth will never be hidden, God bless you sir, love you brotha Ben ,tremendous respect and love for you ,for standing strong against the evil darkness that is the devil, we who love the truth support you , you are a badass sir Thank yall

Elle S

Loved this episode!!

Notafraid!

Great show, 3 truth seekers. Keep speaking!

LysTheLion

I'd be curious to know if new construction and development projects on Little St. James would be used as a cover for concealing/removing buried bodies, judging by the pushback on investigating Zorro Ranch. On an island, you'd think that disposing of the bodies in the ocean would be cleaner but when dealing with insane people involved in occult practices, it seems like they believe that the manner and location of the corpses of their victims is a method of harnessing power for future rituals. There was that story about massive amounts of sulfuric acid being shipped to the island though too so maybe there aren't any bodies there. I don't know. All of this is sick.

Justin case

Started making video and doing research i reached out to 4 creators the fact that no one was covering was weirding me out.

Justin case

Go watch conspiracies and coverups Bustamante and julian dorey solved the epstein answer. He had his cell block mate and they rebuilt the cell and proved no way he did to himself and most likely is still alive

Cindy Carnes

Everything is fake and gay is Candace Owens’ favorite thing to say.

Ryan Tarbox

This interview was WILD. Thank you Shawn and team for continuing this fight

Steven G

So thankful for Ben and the SRS team continuing the mission of exposing the TRUTH! Sick of the two tier justice system and the elite's that go with it!

Gavin Ducote

Great episode. Wish Shawn would have put them documents on screen for the audience to look at. Now I gotta go research😭

Christopher Davis

Dear Sean, Ryan and staff Are you aware that King Charles has plenty of photographs with unknown child abuser by the name of Jimmy Saville, who was or still is in the Royal court of Jesters?

Christopher Davis

Gislaine Maxwell’s nose was different Do celebrity type people have their noses widened?

TurtleLover

I am so incredibly happy that the veil is being lifted on Israel! The fact that the IDF goes around and destroys any Christian relics (and videos it!) made me realize that Israel is the work of the devil.

MAC

Allegedly trafficked you guys are not seeing it wake up it’s bigger than traffickers and Massi was meh all the government is corrupt not one democrat votes for anti trafficking money

Terri Ross

Georgia Boy! Proud of you Ben Owen! I’m a teaching Georgia Girl!

Jen

Wow, that's hard Dose of reality

Mayden

Everything is fake and gay!!!!

Cody Bennett

@ben Owens what sources can I research the Israel subject to see the stuff you’re talking about because I’m genuinely curious about it

Lexi

Great episode!!! Thanks for sharing your experience Ben and Ryan!!

Anthony

Did epstineisntdead.org get scrubbed? I can't find it.

Hugo H

Ryan dalton is a badass

Hugo H

This was a badass episode

Old School Combative Arts

Great interview Sean, I like what you where saying about term limits and Constitutional amendments, I suggest looking into Convention of States. The founder was a creator of the Twlea party movement and trying to push these changes through a Convention of States. Congress will never limit itself. Mark Meckler would be a great interview and he is a follower of Jesus as well.

Lexi

Wow, so many times watching this gave me chills. God bless you all for revealing the truth as you know it.

Chad Yoder

I am 110% for the uni party, put me in coach! Whatever time, resources, money, networks, etc. I would utilize for this cause. I’m willing to sacrifice for this, and the only way this works is if a shit load more Americans get to this point. We agree on more than we realize we have to start focusing on that. We can beat them, because we have truth and good on our side. I have to believe that and settle for nothing less due to the fact I have a 14yr old daughter that is going to inherit this shit show, and anyone with kids that should absolutely terrify and make you stop at nothing to make your voice and opinion is heard. You matter and your opinion does don’t let anyone convince you of anything different, now use it and get loud. FYI Ben I own a center in Ohio, and am a recovering addict. Thank you for all you do. Thank you Sean for giving him a platform. Some of the most amazing people in my life today are recovering addicts and I wouldn’t trade the assholes for nothing lol

Mindy Conner

Get Sarah Adam's on this, she is good at digging up intelligence on people

daynalynn100@yahoo.com

Lindsey Graham was part of the good ole boys party here in SC. He seemed to have SC in his mind in DC. Now, we all know that he & his boyfriend need to retire! Will he? NO!

Greg Stallings

The Greatest group of Americans that lived through the depression and fought in world war 2. The ones that put their deferences aside and stopped their lives to stand side by side and mass produced everything to support the men and women fighting the Germans, Japanese is what needs to happen now to stop this lie. American citizens are being played and need to stand together like our Grandparents did. Stop fighting each on race and political beliefs. We are Americans first! The people protesting hold Muslim and rainbow flags need to put their efforts towards fighting what is going on. Instead of getting paid from the people that are going to be standing on your neck while you take your last breath. So wake up and let’s get it together and start planning for stopping this lie. We can do this together and will take all of us. Most of the illegal immigrants you’re protesting for wouldn’t piss on your body if you were on fire. A lot of them will be fighting us at the end. It’s going to be ugly and people are going to die. But not in vain. So please let’s stop the madness. Please

Monica

That’s awesome that you went there, you are brave.

Ira Cole

I want to see Tulsi Gabbard back on here

abraham lauze

The devil is the God of this world. Only trust in Jesus man will always let you down.

Riana McCormick

If it was up to me I would drop hell fire and decimate the whole island