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The Curse of Needlessly Copying Dark Souls | Design Delve (Patreon)

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2025-06-02 15:03:55
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2026-06

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The Curse of Needlessly Copying Dark Souls | Design Delve

This video is brought to you by GameMaker, the free, fast, and easy-to-use 2D game engine that’s helped power modern classics like UFO 50, Antonblast, and Yahtzee’s Starstruck Vagabond – https://opr.as/SecondWind-3 In today's episode, J & Ludo delve deep into Lies of P to ask the question.. Did its devs really need to add Fromsofts worst aspects? Support us on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/SecondWindGroup Second Wind Merch: https://store.dftba.com/collections/second-wind https://sharkrobot.com/collections/second-wind Music used in order of appearance: Intruder - Stray OST The Abyss - Hyper Light Drifter OST Checking in - Celeste OST The Notebooks - Stray OST Secret Lab - Stray OST

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Honor

I've not got the reflexes to play a Souls-like (I'm having enough trouble with Clair Obscure Expedition 33 on Story mode) but it was very interesting regardless , and many of the same points crop up in regards to the copying of Harvest Moon/Stardew Valley cosy games "We don't allow saving except on sleep because Stardew Valley doesn't" for instance.

Idnex

Hearing you wax poetically while Ludo barks about video game design is one of my favorite parts of being part of Second Wind.

Jadedrakerider

But we have to copy Dark Souls! Why? Because it's there. I think I disagree about the jump control rationale. "Do it because the popular thing did it" in this case seems like a developer saying, "I have no idea how to do this better. Let's do what the popular thing did because at least players will be accustomed to it."

Ecter

Nice video. But it's missing more good examples of games that did it right - just to drive the point that a game can be successful without copy&pasting the same old crap from a widely known title.

Tim Wilson

Honestly I loathe Fromsoft games for many reasons but weirdly it sounds like Lies of P fixes a lot of the problems I have with them (and kinda sounds like Western Nier: Automata). I might actually give this a go.

Harehiro

I loved Lies of P until it gave up its esthetic to copy Dark Souls. After the King of Puppets fight, which was spectacular, it just becomes Dark Souls and is so boring I never finished the game.

Ryan Evans

Western? It's made by a Korean studio