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Season 2, Ep 22 (Patreon)

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2021-10-20 12:30:59
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2023-07-01 15:39:08
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we made it! final episode of season 2, what a damn ride! QUICK NOTE! so sorry but for some reason the audio glitched for the first little bit of my recording and i sounded like a robot so i had to use my camera audio (which... is... blegh) and im so sorry! sounds like poo. good news is it fixes itself about 5(ish) minutes in and is good for the rest of the ride! sorry about that. also dont forget S3 E01 is coming late next week! see ya thursday :)okay bye now! enjoy! 

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Buffy Season 2, Ep 22 - Becoming Pt. 2

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RNR

Couple questions I had this time around: 1. Did they just say that Angel's blood was needed to close the portal? Not that he had to die, but just his blood? So couldn't Buffy had just cut his hand with the sword and thrown it in or something like that? 2. I do also like the scene where Spike is like "God, he's gonna kill her" and then welps and walks away, but at the same time....his whole plan teaming up with her was that they needed to defeat Angel to stop him from ending the world. If he just peaces out and lets Angel kill Buffy.... it defeats the whole plan and the world is still gonna end, no matter how far Spike runs. 3. I agree that seeing Angel say he just wanted to protect Buffy earlier, like a the end of S1 would have been helpful. I didn't really get it/feel it until this watch through that it really clicked how protective he was of her the whole time, that he saw her as she was transitioning from high school girl to savior of the universe and how heartbreaking he found it. Which brings me to 4 4. This is also the first time I think I've REALLY felt for Buffy and seen her amazing growth. Think about being 15 years old, a popular, semi self-absorbed, semi-ditzy kind of girl and having this massive responsibility dumped on her. When she was talking to Snyder and every time she was saying something like "this is my life, this is my job, I'll do whatever I need to, What's left when there's no hope? Well there's me" stuff, I just quick flash back and forth between that Buffy and the girl sucking a lollipop on the school steps saying "call me!" and it breaks my lil heart. I feel like I had more questions/gripes but I'm blanking on them now. Maybe the comments will jog my memory 5. Spike chokes Drusilla out..... Vamps don't need to breathe, so how could she pass out from being choked? I guess MAYBE you could say it was lack of blood to her brain, but..... I don't like it.

TheLoungingPotato

Me: "It's 5:30AM. I better try and get some slee--" Darcie: "Bitch, you thought!"

Melissa

Darcie, we're barely awake! Well, this is one surefire way to wake up quickly.

x_Rhi_x

muahaha, luckily in britain this early upload was a nice afternoon treat! Thanks Darcie!

x_Rhi_x

2 mins in "maybe buffy will hafta kill angel when hes back.....nah, nope..."

Melissa

First of all, I just have to say I applaud your intuitiveness in predicting so much in this show. You have very keen insights and along with your wicked (in a good way) sense of humor and general awesomeness makes you one of the best reactors. I wasn't sure if you realized the whole metaphor for Joyce's reaction to finding out Buffy is a vampire slayer since you didn't mention it. It's meant to be symbolic of a teenager coming out to their parents. Everything tracks - the "have you tried not being a vampire slayer", "you need help", "I just don't accept that", "It stops now", and finally the saddest part of it all when Joyce kicks Buffy out for being who she is. I'm so happy that you loved this episode since it's such an iconic one of the series. I usually lose it once Sarah McLachlan starts singing. I have ugly cried to the end of this more times than I can count. Buffy is in such a dark and low place feeling she really has lost everything. At least she knows her friends are okay, but that just isn't enough. Great way to wrap up Season 2 and I'll see you once I return from St. Lucia!! Season 3 is my personal favorite.

Tim Pierce

Alright everyone, now I'm sure she needs a hug. Bring it in.

Tim Pierce

I would really have loved to have seen Cordy "filling in" Oz on everything that went down. I can just imagine her perspective of events.

Tim Pierce

Part 1 Darla tells Angel to close his eyes before she turns him. Part 2 Buffy tells him to close his eyes before she sends him to hell.

Claire Eyles

Spike and Buffy's ship name is 'Spuffy', so 'Team Spuffy' for the team up! Buffy and Angel are Bangel, and Spike and Angel are Spangel as ship names as well. Oh and Willow working the magic, remember when I said back in season 1 to keep Willow's Opera scene in mind? The opening line of the song that the tenor is singing to her can be translated as 'Child from whose eyes the witchery is shining'.

GenU

You haven't mentioned it but do you intend to do a Season 2 wrap-up? It's ideal positioning would be before you start Season 3 so as not to bias you regarding predictions.

L R

Remember when I said this show was made for you ? Some of your predictions are so good it's like they read your mind before you were born and made a show with everything you wanted .

Chas Summers

And you just wanted to review the pilot...lol. You're one of us now and we are all so glad. Thanks!

Steven Winthrop

I’m so glad you love the show as much as we do! In my opinion the best is yet to come and thats saying something because season 2 is amazing (bad eggs excluded). 😂

Darrell Palmer

Joyce and Spike in the living room may be my all time favorite comedic moment in the entire series!!!

Andrew Pulrang

Great reaction! I know there have already been a few episodes that could be seen as marking the point where this show goes from being “just fun” to being “great.” But I think this two-parter may be the point where there’s no going back to being just another teen show. Hard choices. Huge stakes. Story restrictions removed, (like Joyce finally finding out about Buffy being a Slayer). Several seeds planted for future future developments. There’s at least one more huge turning point to come, but this one is really big.

GreenDragon

I love how much joy and enthusiasm you have in your reactions.

ghostofdurruti

I’ve been dying for you to get to this episode ever since you predicted Spike teaming up with Buffy! So imagine my reaction when just as you’re getting ready to watch, you predict the climax of the episode and then casually dismiss it as a possibility haha. “*gasp* Or maybe Buffy kills Angel when he’s good… nope.” I’m no Bangel shipper, but I have to admit, their final scene together gets me. The expression on Buffy’s face when she realizes that even though she just got him back, she still has to kill him (or send him to Hell, if we’re being technical) is just heartbreaking. She’s just lost the only other person in the world that’s like her, Kendra. She’s been expelled from school, her mom’s kicked her out of the house (though I’m sure Joyce didn’t really mean it, she still *said* it), she’s wanted for *murder*, and she can’t even face her friends because she feels like they were hurt because of her. She feels like she’s lost everything, like all she has left is herself (a recurring theme throughout the episode). And now she’s called upon to sacrifice the man she loves to save the world. In the end, the Slayer is always alone. So she does her duty. She fully steps into the role that destiny has forced upon her, fully “becomes” the Slayer—and then she quits. “Now leaving Sunnydale… come back soon!” And who can blame her? She’s seventeen, and she’s being asked to accept a destiny that means not only that she will almost certainly die young, but that everything else in her life could be stripped away at any moment. She did what she had to do, and now she’s done. So yeah. Like I said. That scene gets me. Do I recognize that the effect of Acathla/Alfalfa/the gargoyle opening his mouth and creating the portal looks kind of goofy? Sure. Does it affect the impact of the scene? Not even a little bit. Acathla’s interesting in how *uninteresting* his role is, actually. He’s essentially the Judge 2.0—the Judge was mostly a plot device to raise the stakes and demonstrate to the audience that Angel really had gone bad, and Acathla is mostly a plot device to raise the stakes and force Buffy to kill Angel despite him no longer being bad. It’s just more obvious this time because he doesn’t even have any lines. I like it, frankly—giving any more attention to Acathla would have distracted from the important stuff. Song trivia: Sarah McLachlan needs no introduction, but I will point out that it’s kind of impressive that if you look up “Full of Grace” on Youtube, most of the comments are about this episode. The “Buffy/Angel Love Theme,” which starts playing after Angel’s soul is restored and has been featured in a number of other big moments between them up until now, has another title. It’s called “Close Your Eyes” (which, of course, is what Buffy and Darla both said to him right before they killed him). Its composer, Christophe Beck, also composed a number of other iconic parts of the Buffy score, and he’s gone on to have a pretty good career (he recently scored Frozen and WandaVision, for example).

Jessica Roth

So I'm laser-focused on you, not the episode, because I know what happens when Drusilla tells Giles "See with your heart" and I want to see your reaction…and then when G says "Jenny…I thought I'd lost you", that's when *I* lose it, start crying, and slam my eyes shut in self-defense. The best-laid plans… Brilliant work, my #4 favorite ever. Just a hair below the best, because Joss is so busy moving his chesspieces around that he kicks logic to the curb, repeatedly. And because Whistler is a completely useless and annoying Exposition Device who drags the episode down, but those are for other posts. I love how you caught the foreshadowing of Buffy getting expelled, which you may recall is Joyce's major concern in both 1.01 ("Try not to get kicked out") and 2.01 ("I'm just hoping she makes it through the school year"). I guess it's good news she won't be worrying about that next year?? It's just annoying that you've heard about this show called "Angel". That…complicates things. Oh, well.

Jessica Roth

THINGS I NEVER SAW BEFORE (in dozens of viewings) 1. Spike steals the cop's cigarettes. No wonder he wants to kill him; can't risk having the cops after him for the theft, lol. I'm usually so confused by the smoke (apparently) coming out of Spike's NECK that I don't notice much else. Seriously, what's up with that? Does Spike have gills? And boo to the cop, smoking on patrol. What are you going to do if you have to chase somebody, Blue Boy? Save the cancer sticks for your own time. II. Right before Angel pulls the sword from Acathla, Drusilla knocks Spike FLAT ON HIS ASS. You go, Dru! Yessss…

Noah

Something I don’t think I ever noticed before; Spike’s hands on the steering wheel when he’s bailing; he recoils from the light once, then spends the remainder of the time keeping his hands on the wheel but avoiding the light. It’s an almost meaningless detail, but I loved seeing it.

Tania

Drusilla is a hoe. Let's not act shocked Buffy said it.

Patrick Lyke

I am so happy to see how much you loved this season finale! I remember a long time ago how you commented on how you wished the fight scenes were more in depth so I am quite sure you're very happy with how much they developed their fights and choreography in this season. Now on to season 3!! :)

Jessica Roth
>>70181336

Yes, but it leads to one of the best comments I've ever seen. (From, IIRC, the Sunnydale Slayers, a group of contemporary commenters/fanfic writers): "As someone who's had all three, Dru clearly prefers Giles [to Spike and Angel]. Who are we to say she's crazy?"

Renee Pope-Munro

Huzzah to Darcie inadvertently commenting on the Overalls of Sadness, my favourite recurring inanimate Buffy thing ;)

Svetlana Grabar

I was looking forward to your reaction to this episode for so long!! I'm glad you liked it :) One thing I really like is that at the end, we see Buffy check on her friends before leaving, to make sure that they are okay :)

R J Walker (FumblesMcStupid)
>>70172899

Glad I'm not the only one who finds Whistler seriously annoying (and not just his character, I'm afraid I don't like the acting either). I, too, just can't take the Jenny scene. Along with the 'let's leave Jenny in his bed' scene this is just so damned cruel :'( Cruel things happen to Buffy too, but they are generally circumstance and plot (except Angel the night after they slept together, which was cruel but not on quite the same level). But a character intentionally being sadistically cruel to another, well, that seems to be Giles' fate at the moment :'(

R J Walker (FumblesMcStupid)

I haven't watched yet but I'll say this here. Pretty much the best thing about Go Fish is the accessory that appears in Giles' tie. In Becoming part 1 it has moved to his button hole and in Becoming 2 it is still there at the start but gone by the end (I don't like to speculate too much about that). And what is it...? It is the pendant of the necklace that Jenny wears in The Dark Age 😭 It breaks my freaking heart 😭

R J Walker (FumblesMcStupid)

Why I love season 2 is it is about doomed romance (and I'm not generally a romantic person). Except it's not ONE doomed romance, it's TWO. Both of which mirror each other (whether that was entirely intentional is another matter) and are deeply entwined with each other. Buffy and Angel, and Giles and Jenny are essentially the same storyline throughout. They start dating at the same time, both Buffy and Jenny find out about their boyfriend's less than savoury past in 2x07 and 2x08, both relationships break up in Innocence, both Buffy and Giles lose all hope in Passion, and in 2x22 they both think, for the briefest of moments, that they have their lovers back, only for them to be snatched away in the most cruel ways imaginable - Buffy has to stab her first love, Giles discovers that he has doomed the world. Oh, and I love the Angelus/Dru/Spike combo too :D

Jessica Roth
>>70501173

I've always seen Buffy and Jenny as mirrors of each other. (Their speech patterns even seem similar, IMO.) Giles has hidden himself "in these old books for so long, I've forgotten what the real world is like". And then Buffy makes him want to be part of the world again…and Jenny makes him want to be a man again. We only have a precious few Buffy/Jenny dialogue exchanges, but they almost all seem to be about The Care and Feeding of Rupert Giles, from "Think of something cool. Tell him I said it." to "You took him to Monster Trucks?" One of the interesting things about discovering S1-S2 in retrospect (I'd seen a few s2 episodes, but didn't become a regular viewer/episode taper until S3) is finding out that I not only loved Jenny Calendar (who I only knew as having been murdered) even more than Giles (since Jenny isn't used as "Wisdom Guy" to push IMO bad ideas), but how she helps me see more clearly into BUFFY's character. I will always miss her.

Jessica Roth

You may recall WAAAAAAY back when, my mentioning that all of S1 was shot before any of it aired, enabling Joss to go back and add little scenes, notably in "The Harvest". ( The Willow/Xander "Rain of Toads" scene is one; you can see they've combed Nick's hair down around the sides to try to hide the haircut he got later in the season.) And you might recall my mentioning that Joss writes a year in advance. (General outline, if not the specifics.) Put those together and we realize that when, at the end of S1, Joss added the scene in 1.02 where Angel watches Buffy leave the Bronze in triumph and says "She did it. I'll be damned.", he's not only subtly hinting at Angel's unholy nature… …but he's writing that knowing that Angel will end S2 IN HELL. (Okay, "a" Hell. But still.) To quote Spike, "this is just…neat." Bravo, Joss!

R J Walker (FumblesMcStupid)
>>70501173

And the same could be said for Angel. Buffy gives him a new lease on life when he sees her and then again when they meet. Jenny LITERALLY gives him a new lease on life by translating the curse. Also, I have read some outstanding fic about the relationship Buffy and Jenny COULD have had :'(

R J Walker (FumblesMcStupid)

Has anybody mentioned... GILES The good-guys are stalwart and true. The bad-guys are easily distinguished by their pointy horns or black hats and we always defeat them and save the day. Nobody ever dies…and everybody lives happily ever after. 2x07 coming to bite Buffy and Giles in the arse :'( And... BUFFY Come on, you must have wondered... a vampire, the Slayer, I know you've thought about it. If it came down to a fight... could you take me? Why don't we find out? ANGEL I'm not gonna fight you. BUFFY No? Big strong vampire like yourself? ANGEL Buffy... BUFFY Come on. Kick my ass.

Jessica Roth
>>70627904

I THINK I finally got around to mentioning that Giles is basically signing Jenny's death warrant with that speech, but there's so much foreshadowing in 2.07 (Angel visiting Willow; Angel restating the invitation rules for Buffy) that I might have missed it. One thing I've been sitting on until now is this: ANGEL: Drusilla, leave here. I'm offering you that chance. Take Spike and get out. …If you don't leave, it'll go badly. For all of us. Oh, HELL YEAH. Drusilla: knocked out and possibly injured by Spike. Spike: severely injured for several months, given that part where Buffy dropped AN ENTIRE FLAMING CHURCH on his head. Also got to listen to Angel banging Drusilla so hard the Romany probably heard them back in Wallachia. Angel; Being tortured in (a) Hell, possibly forever. Should've listened, Dru. And one more from 2.01:

Jessica Roth
>>70627904

ANGEL (to BUFFY): You're not as strong as you think you are. Wrong, Brood Boy. When it comes down to it, she's stronger. ("Me.") Enjoy the burning, chump.

darcieswatchingbuffy
>>70172899

yeah sometimes very specific shots are made when they stay focused the entire sentence instead of panning away halfway through and usually that is some type of foreshadowing! not always easy to catch but caught this one LOL and yesss unfortunately because of years of watching Bones LOL angel juts became a natural point of conversation. still glad i never watched tho!