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Buffy Season 3, Ep 2 - Dead Man's Party

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Alphatrion

Also the not looking for Buffy anymore by the cops makes since because really the only reasons the cops looked her way anyway was because 1. She was right next to a body and 2. The principal blamed her. Once they got to talk to Xander, Cordillia, Willow, And Giles all would have said that Buffy wasn’t there when the im going to assume they would just say gang on PCP showed up and attacked them killing Kendra

Chas Summers

Not a fan of this one after Giles' place. The gang up on Buffy felt forced and the dialogue poorly written.

Claire Eyles

Giles is the saving grace for this episode. His sarcasm in the car, and then threatening Snyder are some of my favourite Giles moments of the series. The rest though, for me it's watchable, but it also feels like forced conflict and too much hand waving resolution. It's not on my worst ever list of episodes, but it also doesn't make my favourites list.

Tim Pierce

This is my least favorite episode of the season. And while I'm sure you won't end up agreeing with me by the finale, it gives you an idea of the ride you're in for.

Steveo

The editing when the zombies break into the party always cracks me up because it's pretty bad and maybe the worst of the entire series. Xander tells Cordelia to go help Buffy as he is restraining a zombie, two seconds later he's at the door with everyone when they break in. Devin disappears when he was holding the door and is basically replaced by Xander as if they are the same person. Oz gets grabbed and they all run upstairs but Xander and Willow leave Oz AND Cordelia, their significant others, to die 🤣. Then Willow and Joyce help Pat into the bedroom where she is alive and walking, but once inside the bedroom she is suddenly dead. Like jeez who edited this episode!

Melissa

I'm back in town too from vacation (and a huge surprise to me engagement!) so am sad but very happy to come back to Darcie and Buffy again. There is a lot of good in this episode to balance out the not so good. I adore Oz's whole gathering-shindig-hootenanny quote. Great Buffy outfits in this episode. Really good angst between her and Willow. And Rupe's "do you like my mask? Isn't it pretty, it raises the dead" is just classic. I always had a hard time with them just throwing a party when Buffy didn't seem to want it just so they could have a good time and not have to confront her. And I guess it was okay with Joyce, but still. Even before the zombies showed up, the house was trashed. So disrespectful. I guess that's why stoner dude got killed first. Guess I'm in the minority on liking it. I didn't like everyone ganging up on Buffy. I guess I missed all the bad editing lol. I very much want to see your company plates and your candy on sale choices.

Victoria

This is the episode that made me hate Xander. I warmed up to him again eventually, but his hostility to Buffy is completely out of line IMO. He lied to her, withholding the knowledge that Willow was trying the spell again, and he knows she had to kill Angel. Yes he had some grounds to be angry that she bailed, but there was no excuse for how aggressive he was in that confrontation where he’s just yelling at her and telling her she’s a terrible person. Basically that whole scene made my heart ache for Buffy, who had a really horrible experience and decided to face the difficulties of her life, and ended up attacked by everyone around her. (I’m also a bit angry with Joyce for that because, come on, you can yell at each other LATER, not in public as some sort of public shaming.) Honestly Giles is the only saving grace for me in this episode, his interaction with Snyder is perfect and his “Do you like my mask? Isn’t it pretty? It raises the dead. Americans!” quote remains one of my favourites of the whole series. The level of sass there is just perfect!

Jessica Roth

I actually rather like this one; the first half is funny as heck and you can't beat a good zombie attack. And I don't mind an argument showing how passionate the group are about each other. My main complaint is that they work so hard to slant audience sympathy towards Buffy (compare to 2.01, where we felt for Buffy but she still got called on her sh*t), who's frankly acting like a spoiled brat. "OMG MOM NO BOYS???" Grow up. And I'd feel a lot more sympathy for the fact that the gang is awkward around Buffy for ONE DAY if she hadn't just gone THE ENTIRE SUMMER without letting them know she was alive. Which might have been good news for her mother, or the best friend who (last Buffy saw) was in a wheelchair (possibly for LIFE), or the mentor whom Buffy knows was tortured. But nah. Why should Buffy call home? She'll come when she comes…and they'd better be happy, dammit! Giles's famous line is actually damn stupid. Yeah, let's blast JOYCE for not recognizing a demon mask, that's fair. I mean Joyce is a Watcher…oh, wait. (Rupe went right by it in the book, didn't notice.) Let's face it…I'm proud of Joyce if she can recognize BUFFY. Asking her to identify Nigerian Zombie masks might be a bit much, I'm thinking. I'm also not thrilled about how they "protect" Giles by keeping him out of the room when the argument is going on. Because a resurrected cat is SO important, yeah. I seem to recall that last year, Giles made DAMN sure to attend Buffy's birthday party, the possibility of looming danger aside. If Buffy called him out on this being his passive-aggressive means of "punishing" her, that would be one thing. But instead, the show wants to polish Giles's halo. While sh*tting all over Willow and Xander. Well, screw that, frankly. On the plus side, at least Oz FINALLY made it to a group meeting, only TWELVE episodes after finding out about the supernatural. He keeps this up , he might become an actual character, instead of the one-dimensional hologram he pretty much is right now. Of course, he's only at the meeting to give that inane and forced "gathering/shindig/hootenany" speech, which you can tell is something Marti wrote for a play years before and is just shoving in here. Yeah, we don't need to know where Oz was all spring or if he no longer despises Cordelia or if he's worried that HE could become a monster as Angel did (Tuesday: Oz meets Angel for the first time. Thursday: We have to kill Angel) or if this means that Buffy might try to kill HIM someday or what he plans to do once he finishes hanging around his girlfriend for an extra year (I mean, you'd think the genius could just take that GED and get out of there, right/) or what precautions he's taking to make sure he doesn't kill Willow or if he's even told his band about his condition or ANYTHING that might make him a more-developed character…but Marti wants us to know Oz has the Grand Theory of Parties all worked out. Yeesh. Off to watch Darcie, which is ALWAYS a hoot. (Your nany may vary.)

ghostofdurruti

Don't have a lot to say about this one other than that it has quite a few funny lines (and also technical flubs, as others have noted haha) and while I'm definitely not *happy* with how Buffy's friends reacted to her return, I do understand their perspectives and I don't find their behavior unbelievable. (Well... apart from them just randomly deciding to have a party at Buffy's house?? And Joyce for some reason being okay with it even after she deliberately had Buffy set out the "company plates"??? Weird!) They were avoiding one-on-one interactions with her at first because even though they were harboring some simmering resentment over her disappearance, they didn't want to blow up at her about it when she'd just gotten home. Which, granted, was not a great idea; as the end of the episode shows, they *needed* to have it out so they could move on, and maybe if they'd recognized that they could have gone about it in a better way. Still, I'm glad that the show didn't just push it all under the rug and act like there *wasn't* any simmering resentment on their parts. That, I think, actually would have been unbelievable. And I'm glad that, having undergone the ritual airing of grievances, they seem to be starting to get back to normal (or what passes for normal on the Hellmouth)!

Jessica Roth

I just realized that the Zombie episode is being discussed…on the Day of the Dead. Cool. Dan is at the party! In the brown shirt with the orange stripe on the sleeve, seen by the door as Buffy reacts to "some chick who just got out of rehab". Good to know he's in the loop for invites. I actually think home-schooling would work well for Buffy. She could patrol all night, sleep in until the afternoon, and then Willow could stop by after school to help Buffy with her classwork. And Willow is probably credentialed by now, too.

madfem

my favorite part of this ep is when Willow says to Buffy "I m going through stuff as well" it's very important for 1. making willow's character real and engaging 2. because it's a theme that will be further explored in this season, the fact that people around you live lives just as rich and detailed as you do, they're not the extras to your life's movie.

Andrew Pulrang

You raise an interesting detail question … whether Snyder had any real justification for expelling Buffy. I don’t think the writers really intend us to explore the question too deeply. But Giles is on the right track when he points out that Buffy has a right to a public education that is very difficult to overrule. Certainly bad grades alone would never result in expulsion, except from an elite private school. In real life, it takes a lot of definite proof of real disruption and danger to the school to get a student expelled from a public school. Buffy, of course, could probably be expelled if everyone totally knew about her activities. But since they don’t, and can’t know, it makes it hard for anyone to actually do anything based on just a vague sense that she’s involved in something mysterious. So that kind of holds up on the show as mostly realistic. As for suddenly not being wanted for murder … that’s I think a much clearer case of the writers saying, “Ah, screw it.” I imagine them spending hours and days trying to figure out what to do with that piece of the Season 2 finale, and not being able to deal with it efficiently so they could get on with the story. In the end, I feel like they gave up on the “wanted for murder” idea and gave a wink the audience by making it especially sudden and unexplained. Kind of like, “Sorry, we didn’t know what to do. So we’re just going to forget it. Okay?”

madfem

yeah Xander, who wouldn't want to go to Belgium? it's lit !! 🥰🍻

TheLoungingPotato

Love the emotional aspects about this episode but the zombie aspect was uhhhhhhhh awful lmao. I have so many mixed feelings. Honestly would have been happy if this episode didn't have anything supernatural aside from the vampire in the beginning. The acting from everybody is fantastic here and it just gets kind of...muddled with the half-assed Monster-of-the-Week. Although, one of my favorite underrated moments, is Cordelia sympathizing with Buffy. Sure, she worded things terribly, but you could tell she really was empathetic to Buffy's situation, or at least what she knows of it. Shows a lot of growth on her part, imo

cruzinbosco

I think "company plates" tend to be the dinnerware one would receive from a wedding registry. At least that's how I think about it. I personally believe in minimalism, and to be honest, don't really like company, so even if I got married, I would not have separate sets of dinnerware just for other people. I would for Halloween tho. ;) That's my holiday. Everything would be different for October. Dingoes Ate My Baby is actually a real-life band called Four Star Mary, minus Oz, so chances are, they are probably a lot older than they should be. Yeah, I don't get the "Buffy no longer wanted for murder thing" either. Then again, I am still confused, all these years later, on the fact that Giles was never a suspect in Jenny's murder. She was found dead in his bed! Like uh, in reality, he'd be the main suspect. It's nice to see a reactor not go completely anti-Joyce in this episode. Many do, actually, most do. I personally see all sides. Everyone had a right to be angry. Buffy leaving caused her parental figures and friends constant worry and distress wondering if she was alive or dead, or ever coming back. She left her friends, and the rest of Sunnydale, to fend for themselves for 3 months. It's a lot. I just wish Buffy had called, to at least let them know she was alive. But yes, at the end of the day, the problem is very clear: none of these people know how to communicate properly. Sometimes, I think that's an overall theme of the series: learn to communicate! Also, I don't think I've commented on this before but I love that you take the time to make sure you heard things correctly, "rewind" and check, or just to laugh at something for a second or third time. I don't think any other reactor I watch does that, and it's so unrealistic to me. If I miss something or enjoy something, I am "rewinding" to hear it again. <3

Cheryl Coffin

Not a big deal but I don’t find the resolution of the murder charge that difficult. Xander, Giles, Cordelia, and Willow would all have told the police that Buffy was not at the library when they were attacked by a “gang”.

Sika6061

"Flip happy" LOL! Congrats on your niece earning her Captain's badge! Way to go! Woo hooooooo! Yeah! Rock on Chica! My hockey team is doing craptacular, so I'm glad someone is doing well. Regarding company plates, you're doing fine. Unless you are holding a dinner party and trying to impress with fine China, you're cool with regular plates. Fine China isn't very modern. I know plenty of people who don't switch it up when "company comes calling." That has something to do with tradition and cultural stuff, so no worries if you don't conform. Great reaction as always! This isn't my favorite episode, but you made it enjoyable. Thank you! Happy Halloween!

Jordan Haddow

Sorry for the late comment. Been back to work and lately been working like crazy. Finally able to take a moment to catch up on all my favorite reactors. First, as I always mention on this episode, I'm totally on Buffy's side with regards to the argument. I can see how everyone is butthurt and can't understand her actions as she hasn't told them about what really happened. Still, I've been at a point in my life when the pain of things that happened to during certain events was so overwhelming that I shut down. It was actually like the world turned grey. Not in the literal sense, but in the emotional sense. I just simply couldn't feel anything. I remember a few times people told me things that would normally provoke a major response, but it affected me like someone mentioning the weather. So, I kind of understand the position the writers put Buffy in when she left. It's not that she didn't want to talk to people, it was more like she couldn't. Anyways, enough about that. I was wanting to more comment on Buffy not being hunted down by the cops still. Superficially the off comment that the cops aren't looking for her still seems pretty short and pointless. In reality, the show has spent considerable effort in making it so brief. Look back at the history of the show, especially with respects to those in authority in town. Initially, it was like they had blinders on and simply didn't see the strange things going on. Then, in 2x03, we learn that they do know about what's going on and are actively covering it up using scape goats like gang members on PCP. Anything to detract attention from the truth of the strange things going on in town. Later still, we find out that Snyder isn't so much motivated to get rid of Buffy out of personal dislike, but because it somehow makes the Mayor happy. So, we know that much of the authority structure in town knows the truth of the demon world and seems motivated to make things difficult for the slayer while keeping public attentions away. So, the events of season finale happen, but Buffy disappears. What do the cops do? The usual. The longer the investigation is open, to more attention it gathers. So, it seems the problems of keeping the case open outweigh the seeming benefits of hanging the mess on Buffy to have her shuffled off to prison. So, most likely, the police scape goated someone and shut the whole thing up. So, in a way, it really kind of makes sense that the whole thing is been reduced to an offhand comment, because that's exactly what the authority structure in town would like it to be. Not some event of note, but some footnote to be forgotten. At least, that's my take.