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Angel Season 2, Ep 2 (Patreon)

Published:
2022-09-09 15:58:48
Edited:
2023-07-01 15:24:10
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2026-06
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okay but this one is kinda fun! 

once you get passed the extremely creepy hallway...😳

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Steve Quast

The movie you're thinking of is The Shining by Stanley Kubrick, which is based on a book of the same name by Stephen King. And yeah, this episode definitely has a lot of influence from the book and the movie. The premise, a haunted hotel in which a lot of murders have taken place, is very similar. Even Angel's room number 217, is the scariest room in the book (in the movie it's a different number: 237).

Darrell Palmer

The kid on the bike (trike) wasn't a ghost.

Steve Quast

The Buffyverse is getting some new sets this season. Giles is buying a magic shop and Angel Investigations has a new place of business.

TheLoungingPotato

I don't think I could ever live in a place with dark wallpaper AND dark flooring. That's just asking for me to fabricate a hallucination of a shadow demon in the corner at 3 in the morning. That hallway would be literally nightmare-inducing for me lmao

Thom Purdy

This is one of the best episodes of the Buffyverse. Top 10! It stands up really well to rewatches. There are lots of little details that I find that I hadn't noticed before.

Pooga

1) I know you won't see this for a while and that's cool. 2) I guessed early on that the movie you were thinking of was The Shining. I never watched it either for similar reasons, so I wasn't sure about the kid on a bike (the image I always see is a pair of little girls holding hands), but it's kind of the famous "haunted hotel" movie. Glad you finally figured it out. :-) 3) WRT Darla: I've been deliberately NOT looking up which episodes are which (for the most part) so I honestly don't know if she's in the next episode, but it's pretty clear they're setting up a longer story arc for her. This was made back when series usually had 22 episode seasons and they could really draw out the longer storylines. Don't fret if she isn't in anything for a stretch. She'll be back sooner or later! :-P

Richard Lucas

I never noticed it before but 68 rooms makes no sense for this hotel. If Angel is in 217 and there are more rooms further down the hall, and the hall turns into another hall where the ice machine is, there are at least 20+ rooms per floor, and certainly in later episodes, it looks like more than 3 floors (plus the ground floor). Am I wrong? (Trying to remember from the Bugs Bunny episode)

ghostofdurruti

I'm on discord now, but I'm still going to post here when I have something *long* to say since this seems like a better place for long comments haha :D I love this episode; I think it's one of the best "monster of the week" episodes of the show. The ambience, the unease... it does a great job recreating the atmosphere of 1950s California at the height of the second Red Scare, and the social commentary fits together well with the more personal story of guilt, atonement, and forgiveness that sits at the forefront of the episode. My only criticism of that aspect of the episode is that for a story that is very much "about" racism (among other things), there sure aren't very many non-white characters in it, are there? Just the black family that the hotel manager turns away at the beginning, Gunn, and of course Judy, who is white-passing. I imagine that they would try to avoid that situation if this were made today. Apart from that, though, I think it holds up extremely well. As far as the personal story goes, the flashback side of this episode ends with us seeing Angel doing what is probably the worst thing he's done while in possession of a soul: abandoning a hotel full of people to a demon. We knew from his backstory on Buffy that he didn't immediately become some noble defender of the helpless as soon as he got his soul back, but the flashback in Becoming left us with the impression that he had spent most of the century afterward in abject misery, feeding off rats in alleyways. It's surprising at first to see him somewhat integrated into human society, living in a hotel, feeding on donated human blood, and mostly just trying to keep his head down and avoid conflict. The seeds of the Angel we know are still in there, though, and he eventually does stick his neck out for others--and, as the demon says, they promptly put a rope around it. When he turns his back on the people in the hotel, it serves as a stark reminder that a soul alone merely gives Angel the capacity to make moral decisions--it doesn't guarantee that he will. It's not hard to understand how the added guilt from this act might have led him to become who we saw in the flashback from Becoming, just before he met Whistler. And it's also not hard to understand how easily he is able to forgive Judy in the present day, as that guilt gives him another reason to empathize with her. They both failed each other about as thoroughly as it's possible for anyone to fail anyone else. I appreciate that he doesn't tell her that, though--he knows that what she needs to hear, after all these years, is that he forgives her, not that he feels guilty too. Something that didn't occur to me until rewatching this episode with another reactor a while ago is that the final scene ties everything together and emphasizes another theme of the episode: that the events of the past weigh upon and shape the present. Or, if you'd like: "The tradition of all dead generations weighs like a nightmare on the brains of the living." (A Marx quote, which I thought was appropriate given the title of the episode!)