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Season 5, Ep 7 (Patreon)

Published:
2022-10-11 15:54:17
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2023-07-01 15:22:44
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hello how do i get a full episode of just flashbacks please?? 😌

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Buffy Season 5, Ep 7 - Fool For Love

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RNR

*SPOILER ALERT IF YOU HAVEN'T FINISHED THE SERIES* I realized on this last watch that this may be Buffy's first few suicidal acts. Her suicidal feelings probably started with episode 5 when she finds out that Dawn is the Key. Having this crazy responsibility to protect the Key who is her fake sister on top of all her other Slayer responsibilities was kind of the straw that broke the camel's back. The first thing she says when she finds out is "My memories [of Dawn]...unbuild them...I didn't ask for this." But Dawn is a helpless, innocent kid, the way that Buffy once was. Now Buffy is forced to martyr herself, having more and more of her life, her freedom, and her choices taken away from her, even her reality is stolen and altered to the point where she can't help but feel compelled to protect this imposter. Then her mom gets sick. Then she "allows" herself to get bested by a vampire and stabbed in the gut. Then she has a long conversation with Spike which ends with him saying that Slayers die because they want to, because they are hopeless and they want out. Buffy looks not just angry, but scared and Spike sees it too. Because they both know that he's right. Then she finds out her mom is getting worse and needs to stay in the hospital. Then she runs into Spike on the porch and you see her just....give up. She lets him sit there with her, she lets him touch her back, she just stops fighting. Buffy knows that hanging around Spike, the only known vampire to kill 2 Slayers, is a death wish and that one day he will find a way to get his chip out. She mentions this a few times, including telling Dawn to stay away from him because even WITH the chip, he's still dangerous. And when Buffy finds out that he actually CAN hurt her again, she still doesn't dust him. In fact, she gets closer and closer to him, slouching towards death.

Preaching to the Horse's Mouth

I feel like "I'm a big fan of grenades" and "was it necessary" kinda don't fit in the same sentence 😬😆

Ashley

1. I’ve been so excited for this episode because it’s one of my favorites for obvious reasons 2. I busted out laughing when Darcie looked away right when the names of the guests of the episode appeared on screen 3. I would still love a movie or mini series just of Darla, Angelus, Dru, and Spike 4. Fantastic reaction as always! ❤️Ashley

Cáit ní Bhriain

yes been waiting for this episode! My absolute favourite!

Rhi

One of the best episodes in my opinion! And yes he totally looks like the Dawson's Creek guy

Noah

I think your analysis of Spike’s “you have ties to the world” is spot on. And if you harken yourself aaaaaaall the way back something Spike said in “School Hard”: “A slayer with family and friends. That sure as hell wasn’t in the brochure.”.

Bud Haven

This is my favorite episode of the entire series. There are other episodes that are "better", but this is my favorite. The final scene where they are sitting together like two old warriors. Spike in reality and Buffy just for a Slayer. Those two sitting on the porch could be the main image for the entire show. Spike, when he was talking to Buffy about how Slayers die, mentioned three ways. First, Slayers are in deep if they don't have a weapon. The first Slayer dropped her stake and dropped her life. Second is pure RNG. Keep fighting long enough, eventually something is going to get you. Third was the darkest. Eventually Slayers get to the point where they've had enough. When Buffy says, "Say it's true. Say I do want to." I don't think she was talking about making out with vampires. I think it was about that third way. Spike would never be the vampire that takes her out. But Spike was trying to get a physical relationship going, and that is how he took her rejection. Spike says that inevitably her death wish will come to the fore. S-"The second that happens, I'll slip in, have myself a real good day." Later, after his awkward attempt to hit on her he says "Come on. I can feel it Slayer. You know you want to dance." Spike is saying he can feel her desire for him. But then Buffy says "Say it's true." That she has desire for him? Or is she saying she has a desire for the dance. A death wish. "Say I do want to." But Spike also said it's her family and friends who tie her here. Keeping it at bay. So is it in her, kept at bay by her family and friends? We already know the answer to this, it's yes. In The Wish we see Buffy without her support system and she has death-wishyness all over her. B-"The world is what it is. We fight, we die. Wishing doesn't change that." And she turns down help to fight the Master. B-"There's only one thing I'm good at." G-"At least let's muster some force." B-"I don't play well with others." And eventually he kills her. So I think it is there, and Buffy is telling Spike he would never be the vamp who takes her down.

Thom Purdy

I love that we see the evolution of William into Spike. Dru sires him. His accent changes from posh to semi-cockney. Then the Chinese slayer gives him the eye scar. In New York he gets his Bleached hair and Leather coat.

Christine

I love the throw back in this episode to Lovers Walk. Remember when Spike kidnapped Willow and he was telling her about his breakup with Dru? He said he found her making out with a chaos demon on a park bench...."Have you ever seen a chaos demon? They're all slime and antlers."

Svetlana Grabar

I love this episode so much. I would love a prequel about one of the past slayers.

Jayme

oooh this episode puts in the work lemme tell ya! definitely a fan favorite, at least for this fan! this episode just feels important because we really get to meet spike -- or rather we get to meet william and better understand spike. it's impressive to me how angel is the vampire with the soul and yet spike just seems so much more emotionally connected especially since he doesn't have a soul so where is this sensitivity coming from?! his humanity somehow manages to peak through the grit

ghostofdurruti

And so Buffy continues the tradition of having the seventh episode of the season be an important one. There's the Spike backstory, obviously (which I love to see--human William was so cute!), but there's also the continued exploration of what it means to be a Slayer. Spike tells Buffy: "Death is your art. You make it with your hands, day after day. That final gasp. That look of peace. Part of you is desperate to know: what's it like? Where does it lead you?" (Side note, but I don't care what they say about his poetry back then, he's a hell of a wordsmith now. Maybe he improved with age, or maybe he just needed to stick to prose instead of poetry.) Buffy's conversation with Spike ties into her conversations with the First Slayer at the end of last season and Dracula at the beginning of this one, and lends credence to the idea that the Slayer's power has a dark side to it. I think that the better Buffy has gotten, the more she's come to embody the role of the Slayer, the more this dark side has become apparent to her and the more its existence has weighed on her mind. (This is probably especially true after she saw what happened to Faith...) At the end of the day, Slayers are basically child soldiers, pressed against their will into a supernatural war in which one mistake could mean the end of *everything*. That's... really fucked up, and is a big part of why Spike's belief that "every Slayer has a death wish" rings true. One thing to keep in mind, though: Spike's a vampire. He's the thing the Slayer slays. Which means that he's naturally going to have a very specific and, crucially, *limited* perspective on what Slayers are. He sees how they kill, and he sees how they die. He doesn't see (and doesn't really care about) the lives they save and the positive impact they have on the world around them. Because of this, and despite how insightful he is into the parts of the Slayer's experience he *does* see, I think we should take what he says with a grain of salt. Besides, even if we accept his perspective on past Slayers as more-or-less accurate, as he himself says, Buffy isn't exactly like past Slayers. She has "ties to the world" ("a Slayer with family and friends... that sure as hell wasn't on the brochure", as he said in "School Hard"). Anyway, I'll conclude by saying that this is a really meaty, thought-provoking episode that actually falls into my top 5 of the series for several reasons that I can't go into here (although since you've already watched the next Angel episode, I'll just say that the way that episode and this one tie together is a big part of it). I think this was the one that made me go from appreciating Spike as an entertaining Token Evil Teammate to actually caring about him and rooting for him to hopefully have some sort of proper redemption arc. For all his talk about how all he needs is one good day, he sure doesn't seem willing to take the opportunity when it presents itself to him at the end of the episode, does he? There Buffy is, as vulnerable as she's ever been in his presence, and instead of trying to kill her, he asks her what's wrong and tries to comfort her. Guy's got it *bad*.