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Newk

That outro music sounded different

It's a Ghost.

I really enjoyed Everything Everywhere All at Once but also found it a bit overrated. I also found The Substance a bit overrated but also really enjoyed it, and when I've been talking to friends about it lately, I've remarked more than once that I think it's probably the most bonkers movie I've seen since Everything Everywhere All At Once!

Drix

Oh man, Bee Movie. My generation would have been the target audience for that when it came out(I was 9 at the time). It is kinda Manimal levels of insanity. It's been a long time since I saw it, but its stuck with me. The following are real plot points of the movie: Jerry Seinfeld(a bee) steals Patrick Warburton's(a human) girlfriend. Like full on, romantic dates. Jerry Seinfeld disrupts the status quo of the honey industry so much, that he is litigated against in court(again, he's a bee.) His Bee bestfriend becomes enraged in the courtroom, and stings the opposing sides layer, causing his ass to rip off(he is saved from certain death through the marvels of modern medicine). The last thing about that movie I remember is the bee best friend, assless, hooked up to machines in a human sized hospital bed. What a film.

Derek Scott

“The Jaunt” is one of my top 5 King short stories. It’s one of those stories that perverts what you think is a sort of pedestrian Science Fiction trope in a way that is really terrifying. Anecdote: Having kids is sort of a license to talk about cool shit you might otherwise shy away from with other adults. My daughter (around 8 at the time), my son (around 10 at the time) and I got into a deep conversation about time travel and the conditions for its feasibility. We got to a point where we were discussing what might go wrong and I stared off into the distance for a while and thought of “The Jaunt”. I quickly changed the subject… Don’t get me started on Gray Matter.

Matthew Sanborn Smith

I just read "The Jaunt!" It's fucked up! :D Everything Everywhere All at Once is one of my absolute favorite films. I'm always sad when I hear that someone else didn't like it, but you two are the first people I've heard say they were bored! Now I'm super-sad. Might as well re-read "The Jaunt."

Matthew Sanborn Smith

Wait! How could I let this out-of-context line from from "The Jaunt" go by? "And, if he was given enough time to tell the whole story, they would welcome the gas-passers with open arms." Well, I know the whole story now and these arms (and nostrils) are still closed to the gas-passers.

Richard Upton Sinclair Lewis Pickman

OK, I’ll do the NDT thing again: sound, as we perceive it, comes from small waves of pressure changes (definitely more pressure involved!). As an object approaches the speed of sound, the waves bunch up and overlap, but when an object breaks the speed of sound those built-up waves are all released as one big pressure wave. What the hearer perceives is a massive shockwave of a change in pressure in the air. I could swear I saw an entomologist say that the pop from bees mating was from a small sonic boom! However, sadly, after looking around some more it appears it’s just the endophallus rupturing. Which… 😬

Ann Knight

Hey now, when you asked for favorite supernatural novel you specified any author living or dead. So y'all did Dracula, why not cover Interview with the Vampire?

Rick Hound

All the media about the interpretation of immortality is reminding me of the manga series “Blade of the Immortal”, where a criminal swordsman gets infected with alien blood worms that allow him slow aging and regeneration, because of various personal tragedies connected to him he seeks to die with the only person that can give him that wish requiring that he kill 100 equally or worse criminals. His fighting style had become sluggish because for the most part he could brute force most conflict. But as the story goes on he ends up with highly competent combatants, and which he is eventually forced to learn new skills (tho still rusty) to win the fights. I can’t say I’d recommend it because it has many uncomfortable themes showing up throughout the series, including one of the criminals being a guy who sews his victims heads to his shoulders. If you can get past such situations I will recommend it for the art and the character writing.

Allison Albright

Oh man, The Jaunt is so good. I don't think I've read that since I was a teenager, I should go read it again. Hey it'd be awesome if you guys did a Haunting of Hill House / Hell House month. Those are both great supernatural stories. The Haunting of Hill House is one of my favorites and there's that 1960s movie that doesn't do too bad a job with it if I remember correctly, though I think the last time I saw it I was 12 or 13, so maybe I should watch that again and see how it holds up.

Bugberry

I'm sad to hear Everything Everywhere All at Once didn't work for either of you. I probably had the most ideal way of experiencing it, which helped. It had been in theaters for awhile and had went under my radar. The cast looked neat so I decided on a whim to see it on weekday I had free. I got to see it by myself on a massive screen, and it was amazing. Another detail that I think resonated with me is how I'm on the spectrum, and apparently the directors wanted to make the main character have undiagnosed ADHD, so the way the film visualized how it felt to be mentally pulled in random directions felt like it was speaking directly to how my brain works. I generally have a low opinion of the major awards shows, and usually the best picture winners are films I haven't seen or even heard of, so it was shocking that EEAAO not only got nominated, but won. I guess it shows how drastically expectations can hurt a film for people.

The Evil Cub

I found Everything, Everywhere, All At Once to be one of the most deeply moving movies I have seen in twenty years, whereas I found the several Marvel movies dabbling in multi-verse storytelling to be immensely predictable and, while not exactly boring, to be only above average within the context of recent Marvel movies, which is an incredibly low bar to clear. Your take on this topic has me seriously reconsidering my love of The Jaunt among other things.

Bugberry

Anything in particular didn't work for you in EEAAO? I saw it with basically no expectations and loved it, became one of my favorite movies every which is weird for something so recent.

Richard Horsman

My favorite encapsulation of the war of consciousness against itself is from Gurdjieff. It goes something like “There’s the me that sets the alarm clock and the me that says ‘what bloody fool set this alarm?’ the next morning.”

It's a Ghost.

There wasn't anything about EEAAO (or The Substance) that I had a particular problem with. I think the problem for me might have been more about hype and expectations and then watching them and enjoying them but also thinking, "What is this I am watching?" I think if I'd heard nothing about either movie and someone said, "You need to watch this. It's so bonkers but also so great," I would have watched both movies and simply loved them for the weird, unique, fantastic movies they are.

Jim Cannon

I listened to the feedback ep and then picked up my relisten of old shows with "A Voice in the Dark" which of course features a mention of "Gray Matter."

ChiveOnOCM

Kids Bop Nine Inch Nails wins for a handle name

Ben A

You should give homework like this more often! The Jaunt definitely is among King's top short stories, written during his heyday of addiction-fueled authorship that also gave us the equally mind-bending Drawing of the Three. I hadn't read the Jaunt in a long, long spell, and so I picked up my old copy of Skeleton Crew. It occurred to me that the Jaunt is an excellent tale in the style of the Twilight Zone. Out of curiosity, I looked up where it was originally published, and--you guessed it--it was Penthouse. Nope, I'm kidding. It was Twilight Zone Magazine. For folks picking up Skeleton Crew for the first time, I'll also recommend The Raft, but read it away from the lake or the beach. (And for a fun triple feature, read The Raft, Slime, and Ooze for different takes on similar creatures.) Speaking of The Jaunt and on the sci-fi side of Strange Stories, have you guys thought about covering some additional Alfred Bester works? I think you both enjoyed Fondly Fahrenheit. The Men Who Murdered Mohammed is pretty weird and wild, as is Time is the Traitor. If anyone hasn't read The Stars My Destination, I'd also recommend it. (Bester originates the term "jaunting" to mean teleportation in that book.) It's not a strange story, but it's solidly written and has interesting character growth, though YMMV. I'll also champion the recommendations for Haunting of Hill House, though I would caution that you really need to be in the right mindset to read it. It calls for suitable surroundings. So much of that book is psychological horror and the terrors are left in many ways to the imagination of the reader, and I'm not talking Aickmann-esque or Lynchian weirdness. But no one presents creepiness lurking in the shadows (of the house as much as the mind) like Jackson.

Derek Scott

It’s such a wild and terrifying and effective story. The atmosphere and the brevity heighten the whole thing.

James Anthony

Haven't watched it in a bit, but I remember He Never Died being a pretty enjoyable film. Definitely worth a watch.

Pearce Duncan

Wow, did other people read The Substance as Elizabeth and Sue sharing the same consciousness? I didn't see it that way at all - I thought it was like two consciousnesses with a kind of timeshare arrangement, where one of them was taking advantage, trashing the place and leaving the other consciousness to try and deal with the damage.

Notmylegalname

“Conscripted into the rodeo” is gonna be the name of my new country/rock band

Stewart

I think I missed the original question on best supernatural novel, but my hot take is that at least one of the best supernatural novels is Moby Dick. It's got a mysterious, apparently unstoppable force at the center that inspires cult worship and commands human obsession. Of course, there are also entire chapters of whale "facts", which may dilute the experience somewhat

It's a Ghost.

I initially expected for the two of them to share a consciousness and was confused why they were acting like two separate people. But then I concluded, like you said, it's kind of a timeshare situation, which also leads to so much of the problems between the two. Elisabeth is angry at Sue for not maintaining the balance and resents her fame and attention, while hating herself; and Sue resents having to clean up after Elisabeth and just wants more time to be young and popular. Also, there's a line where Elisabeth explicitly says that she hates herself, and if Sue is simply a duplicate of Elisabeth in a younger body, it stands to reason that she probably hates Elisabeth too. With all this being said, I found at the time of the initial switch that Sue seemed caring towards Elisabeth's body, and then when Sue switched back to Elisabeth, Elisabeth seemed caring toward Sue's body; but the longer they were apart living separate lives, the less they felt as one and the more resentful they became of each other.

Derek Scott

I love the whole Dark Tower series but The Gunslinger and Drawing of the Three are incredible.

Mounty of Madness

... and Chris sounds so enthusiastic about it, too. It made me feel like shaking my head slowly and sadly. "No, that's not how a sonic boom works"

Stacy Schumacher

Agreed! I really enjoyed it. Henry Rollins was so deadpan and had great delivery for that role.

Stacy Schumacher

It's what I expected based on the initial description, but quickly realized that wasn't the case, then couldn't understand why anyone would use The Substance. But Chad's and some of the other explanations make sense and hold the plot together better as a metaphor.

Scott McCrate

Cashback is a beautiful film, though the scene(s) of stopping time to disrobe women to draw them is problematic. Still entirely worth seeing. The lead character is played by Sean Biggerstaff who was Quiddich Captain Oliver Wood in the early Potter films. I highly recommend Cashback!

Scott McCrate

Stephen King's short stories can pack as much punch as his novels in a much condensed form. Night Shift and Skeleton Crew are long-time faves of mine.

It's a Ghost.

Picked up Skeleton Crew over the weekend, and good god, "The Jaunt" is absolutely horrifying! Now I'm really excited/scared to read the rest of the book.

Darth Pseudonym

I enjoyed Everything Everywhere All At Once, but the praise it got really did feel like it was a lot of people's first exposure to the idea of a multiverse. I liked it but it wasn't a brain bending story for somebody who grew up on Star Trek and X-men.

Christine M

I happened to listen to this the day after watching the Murderbot season finale, and that comment about 30 minutes of TV being worth it hit so hard! As a mega-fan of the books, I had some quibbles, but the final episode really brought it home. Highly recommend to anyone who likes science fiction, and now that the whole season is available, you can bypass the frustration of the short episodes!

Christine M

It wasn't that it was brain-bending for me. It pretty miraculously combined frenetically ridiculous action with poignant emotional stories between characters, and that made it memorable. I mean, as a mom, I got pretty misty about the mother-daughter stuff, but also fully belly laughed at stuff like Jamie Lee Curtis having hot dog fingers. Pulling that off takes a lot of skill!

Darth Pseudonym

That's true and I didn't mean to be dismissive of a script that manages to be ridiculous and heartfelt all at once -- it's just that at the time it came out, I heard a lot of people talking about the concepts being difficult to process and it was kinda like "Oh, first time?"

Mooncubus

Oh man.. way back when I first started doing YouTube videos I also used a singstar microphone lol

Shay Fargel

Why did I hear "I've always wanted to convey spooky essence" and then immediately repeat it like the line "I've always WANTED to be covered in goo!" from Quiet & Bold? XD

Artemis

Gonna join the people who said EEAAO hit for them. It has pathos AND humor AND action AND it's weird. It was a fun time! Eventually. It _is_ a slow burn, and long enough that every time I think about rewatching I don't. If I had had to stop partway through I might not have come back either. But, could be worth trying again from a different (non-hyped up, understand it is a SILLY story) frame of mind.

Artemis

Meanwhile my spouse summed up his comments thusly: "Wow, yeah. I mean, I guess Back To the Future is a terrible car movie, if _that's_ what you're expecting."

Kyle Griffiths

Late to the party, but, 1. Chris never sounded like Andrew, 2. The best supernatural novel is The Elementals by Michael McDowell

Cat Wilson

I didn’t like Death Becomes Her when I first watched it as a teenager. But later rewatching with my gay roommate and friends I discovered it was a hilarious mix of a strange story and camp classic. (Also, first “first time at the rodeo” is from another camp classic, Mommy Dearest.)