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Study 152 - Beauty and the Beast (Patreon)

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2025-12-18 16:00:07
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2025-12
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We're discussing the most popular version of Beauty and the Beast by Jeanne-Marie LePrince de Beaumont from 1756, which was adapted from the longer 1740 novelette by Gabrielle-Suzanne Barbot de Villeneuve!

Special thanks to reader Heather Klinke!

A History of Beauty and the Beast from Pook Press

The poets: Taylor Swift and Die Antwoord

Non-Fifer musical selections: Carnival of the Animals: VII. Aquarium and XIII. The Swan by Camille Saint-Saëns; Nocturne in C-Sharp Minor by Frédéric Chopin

Comments

Sundance

Loved the episode but wanted to say! Finally able to get back to the podcast again! Moved to a new town and started a new job. Starting over from the beginning of the Pod again at my new job. I was finally able to convince my Partner to listen to the podcast. I made her a patreon and sent her this podcast as a Gift for 2 months! She listened to The Nutcracker and Phantom of the Opera. She really loved it! You got a new fan and patron!

Rick Hound

‘Beauty and the Other Beauty’, sounds like a fake book at the beginning where the main character is looking through the disposable dollar store books before the weird begins. How about the fake author’s name be Dean Brenberry.

Eric - Speaker in Digressions

Not directly related, but praise for Andrew Leman is always relevant: One of my colleagues in a team-taught humanities course assigned Arthur Machen's "The Great God Pan" last week. (The students didn't know what to do with it, I think.) Anyway, in reviewing it myself I listened to a free audiobook version on YouTube that was deadly dull when there was no dialogue, and then to your final HPL Literary Podcast episode for a summing-up. The short readings from Andrew blew that audiobook out of the virtual water! Truly a great god among men.

Newk

Great episode guys!

Casey

Nice episode and wonderful reading by Heather. The beast’s voicing was also great.

Eldritch Golem (JPM)

So the Beast in this story is man-shaped but with scaly skin and a mysterious proboscis (that may or may not be attached to his face) and a library full of magical books? Is this Wilbur Whateley!?!? Seriously, I think that 'Beauty and the Beast' x 'The Dunwich Horror' sounds like a pretty interesting mashup. Though come to think of it, I guess that's kind of what the 1970 Dean Stockwell/Sandra Dee adaptation is.

Rafe Ball

I wondered where Chad was going for a moment there when he referred to the version of the story where the Beast lays ‘a kind of trunk’ on the father’s shoulders and said, “It never says it’s from his face or his head….”

Thunk

Beauty is a cutie patootie. The sisters, lacking suitor patootors, become snooty patooties. The brothers - who knuckle down and get to work - must be duty patooties.

YoAdrienne

Man, I had a rough night, but you know what, I have is a good skin care routine, and a healthy practice of daily worshipping the the Elder Gods. Otherwise, I don't know how I'd make it through the holiday season..

Jim Cannon

Talk about a real shrimp, plate of shrimp moment. I just listened to the "Lurker at the Threshold" episodes last week on my re-listen. What a fun series. All the hope and excitement in the first episode... that slowly gives way to anger and disappointment in the rest of them.

Jim Cannon

Great episode, as usual, I really enjoy these fairytale/folk tale episodes. In part because you guys are great at covering the variations and other versions of the stories, which emphasizes how universal is the human experience but also how specifically every culture views certain archetypes.

Ben A

Man, now all I want is the Lovecraftian version of Beauty and the Beast, perhaps entitled “The Curse of the Beast” or “Bella and the Horror.” The Beast lives in a non-Euclidean estate that only appears as strange, unmapped ruins before some hapless visitor stumbles upon it. The cursed object is a book, not a flower. The Beast compels the protagonist to send his daughter or else he is consumed. Bella goes mad at the end, and she hallucinates the Beast as a beautiful prince when in reality he consumes her soul (a la Shea’s Tsathoggua). The story is told in letters from her to her father, except the final act. But the singing enchanted teapot and candlesticks from the Disney version are still added. It almost writes itself!

It's a Ghost.

I too was especially enjoying Heather's reading this week!

Eric - Speaker in Digressions

On treating siblings equally: A friend with two small daughters has pointed out the dangers here. You can give them otherwise identical toys or whatever, but if one is pink and the other is purple, there will be a grievance.

Our old pal Brendan Gardiner

I agree that a late-revealed special lineage sort of spoils the fun of a common person prevailing through some combination of virtue, luck, and grit. This was the complaint some people had about a character named Rey from Episodes 7,8, and 9 in the Star Wars franchise. Not sure if anyone in your audience caught those films, but it’s a real downer when Rey turns out to be Palpatine’s granddaughter. That aside, people should check out those movies. They’re pretty good!

Our old pal Brendan Gardiner

Other thoughts: 1. Chris, your singing voice is beautiful and could be the reason Rachel married you. It’s an enchanting sound you make. 2. Being turned to stone that remains conscious seems a little severe penalty for having a bad personality. 3. The orange chicken thing made me laugh.

Stephen Scott

Occasionally I like to take a break from my favorite podcasts. Not because I tire of them, but rather to allow a bit of a backlog to build up so I have the pleasure of binging them while mindlessly punching away at my keyboard (work). Imagine my surprise and delight when, at the end of my first episode back, I am personally thanked for listening! Thank you Chad and Chris for a bit over a decade of entertainment (started listening around 2016). Here's to a decade more!