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Extra Credit 010 - The Lure, Atlantics and Bathtubs Over Broadway (Patreon)

Published:
2023-04-29 11:54:51
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2023-04-29 11:57:03
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We're talking Polish mermaid musical THE LURE as well as the ghost film ATLANTICS and the wonderful documentary BATHTUBS OVER BROADWAY!

Again - apologies for the jagged quality of Fifer's video - upgrades are nearly complete and smooth sailing lies ahead!

Video link for this episode: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DtI47jWuP-g

Comments

Evan

The Old Guard is a phenomenal action flick. One of the better things Netflix has done this decade.

Drix

Fish vaginas? Men being grossed out by fish vaginas? Chain smoking and heavy drinking? Musical numbers? Are you guys sure this wasn't Robert Eggers' The Lighthouse?

Erik Gordon

In my opinion I think all of the mermaid mythology comes down to guys being stuck with guys on a boat or for a long time without women. Probably younger dudes at sea... Just gonna say that in the last days of basic training the lunch lady was looking pretty good .

nils hedglin

With regards to Polish mythology, there's a Netflix series called Krakow Monsters. It's another Monster of the Week series, kind of an adult Buffy. But because it's based in Poland, the monsters are all very different and I assume based on Polish mythology. With regards to industrial musicals, episode 4 of Prime's Marvelous Mrs Maisel has a full industrial musical as part of its story.

Alison Scott

Suggestion for more musical content: The Triplets of Belleville, a wonderful, beautiful, strange film.

Eric - Speaker in Digressions

I also thought of "Splash" as soon as you mentioned that throwing water on the mermaids made their tails appear. And separately I think "Splash" and "The Shape of Water" would make a good double feature, for a Third-Oath-of-Dagon, cross-species-romance-and-government-bad-guys theme. Back when Daniel Lavery was still writing as Mallory Ortberg, he published a compilation of fairy-tale remixes called "The Merry Spinster" that has a good subversion of "The Little Mermaid." Recommended.

Alan Ricks

Most people would probably recommend The Lighthouse or The Shape of Water if you’re interested in the relationship between humans and “sea-ladies” or “fish-gents” but I think the 2017 Spanish-French film Cold Skin should get some more exposure. The basic premise is a scientist is dropped off on a desolate rocky island in the middle of the sea to relieve the guy already there who is doing somesort of research. The previous guy is gone and the only one on the island is the lighthouse keeper who lives in what appears to be a hastily fortified lighthouse on the other side of the island. After an attack by “something” coming out of the sea under the cover of darkness, the scientist tries to get answers from the keeper and finds to his surprise the keeper is hoarding more than food and supplies. Its based on a 2002 Spanish book, also called Cold Skin. I liked the movie so much I went and got the book. Its good and the movie turns out to be a pretty faithful adaption from the book with the notable (and for the better) changes in a character’s apparent age/size and consent in a sexual relationship. It is streaming for free on youtube and tubi and can be found on other platforms as well.

Fred Bednarski

Oh hey, I'm a Polish guy listening to the podcast and I'm here to help! In terms of pronunciation Chad is doing quite well. (e.g. the name of the director would be pronounced akin to: Ag-niesh-ka Smo-chin-ska and Chad was very close). As for the movie - I've seen it years ago, so my memory is hazy, but it is quite an outlier compared to contemporary Polish cinema and it's supposed to feel quite otherworldly. Saying that, there are quite a few recent Polish films/TV shows that use the (especially late) communist Poland as a setting - so it's not completely disconnected to what's happening in Polish media. For what's worth, when I watched it back in the day it did feel like it carried a feminist message that blindly following traditional patriarchal values leads to losing yourself...but again, this is just a hazy memory from a dude that is nor a film critic nor a feminist scholar. The articles you quoted do a much better job at exploring the themes than I ever could...but hey, if you ever need someone to help pronounce and place in context some Polish stuff, hit me up ;)

Long time hater

Regarding the off-puttingness of 'romantic' relationships between humans and human-animal hybrids (chimera?), I think you've discussed a number of times, but most recently in relation to Planet of the Apes. Here we have a super intelligent, but straight up animal-animal in this case. We've unfortunately missed out on the chance of a Jerry Springer Show follow up episode, would have been fascinating to see if the audience was for or against. Really looking forward to the Angela Carter episodes. Cheers

Rafe Ball

A few thing in this episode made me think of the mermaid in Red Dwarf episode ‘Better Than Life’ where the crew find a hologame that will bring their dreams to life: Holly : What's happening, dudes? The Cat : We're having a really nice time. I'm dating Marilyn Monroe and also I have another girlfriend who's a mermaid. She's half woman, half fish. [turns round to look]  The Cat : It's Miranda, my girlfriend! [as she comes out of the water we see that the top half of her is a fish, the bottom half is a woman]  Holly : Somehow I'd imagined she'd be a woman on top and a fish on the bottom. The Cat : No, that's the *stupid* way round!

Haylen Brenagh

My dad was a salesman for RCA in the 1960s and early 70s, and each year he attended the Quota Club trip of star salesmen. I just watched "Bathtubs Over Broadway," and I can just imagine my dad in the audience of one of those industrial musicals. What a delight! (Of course, the experience sent me to googling RCA's Quota Club and I found nothin'. Still, I learned that his project with the Pentagon that I barely remember - a mainframe computer system called Spectra 70 - was sloughed off to Sperry Rand/Univac, after which RCA withered and died. Dad held on with Univac another decade. Tough times for him - I never realized it as a kid!)