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We're sharing your fantasies on this very special feedback episode!

Here's that video for Island of Lost Souls by Blondie.

And Mitchell and Webb ponder: "Are We the Baddies?" 

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Jeremy Impson

FYI it looks like you uploaded a WAV file rather than an MP3 or M4A.

ESTY

It may have bombed with wider audiences, and it is ridiculous . . . but; that Land of the Lost reboot is one of my favourite movies. I credit this film for single-handedly bringing the words “pageantry” and “serpentine” back into my regular vocabulary.

Oleh R

Chris, good try with my name but I ask people to pronounce it like “Ollie.” We actually “meet-and-greeted” when you were in Madison. I can now add the “have your comment read on feedback” merit badge to my Strange Studies sash. Great feedback episode, keep up the excellent work!

Karl Haikara

You guys really need to cover Edgar Rice Burroughs, I loved his work when I was a kid, definitely need to cover one of the John Carter or Tarzan or the Lost World novels would be great!

Steve

I've never read any Burroughs but the Disney film was pretty good - much better than the Traci Lords version. But the best Boroughs' movie is of course At the Earth's Core with Troy, I mean Doug, McClure, Caroline Munroe at Peter, "You cannot mesmerise me! I'm British!", Cushing.

Forrest Rush

I assume you are joking Chad when you asked how an Irishman could end up fighting on the side of the confederates. The deep south, especially Georgia, was settled heavily by the Irish even including those imprisoned who were shipped to Georgia from the so-called debtors’ prisons of England, even though a large chunk of those were Irish nationalists of various persuasions and groupings and so were truthfully political prisoners. Of course, the story of Georgia as a penal colony a la Australia is exaggerated and more mythologizing of history than fact; however, it did receive a lot of what the founder Oglethorpe termed the “worthy poor” from parts of England including the north where many Irish had relocated due to well, I think everybody knows more or less what England had been doing to Ireland through the previous centuries. So a lot of poor people including Irish folk took the chance to get shipped to Georgia as indentured servants and over the next century up to the civil war became rich slaveowners proud of their Irish and/or English ancestry or mixed with native American groups mostly Cherokee and Creek and came to be known disparagingly in the deep south as the Black Irish but also proud of their Irish roots leading to naming their kids weird ass things like Forrest (well mine is more English/Scott-Irish derived, but I think we’ve all at least met or heard of one Huston or Finn). Of course, the convoluted history of the phrase Black Irish on both sides of the Atlantic as both a positive and negative term is worthy of a podcast in and of itself, but growing up in the 70’s and often being called this with a different word often used instead of black while devouring all those Frazetta cover art Conan paperbacks, I just assumed that the Cimmerian was from the same place as I was. We definitely did not look like the “proper” much lighter skinned true Irish Americans in my town who were also Catholic and everyone I knew from the very wrong side of the railroad tracks who got called this name was most definitely not. But we could go be outside in the hot Georgia sun without wearing SPF 50, so bonus? Escaping into Hyboria made it much easier to relate to a fantastical pseudo-Celtic world than the real Ireland which I had no real connection to other than stories told by grandparents from stories told to them by their immigrant grandparents. But back to the point, there were plenty of Irish Americans and Irish immigrants who fought on the side of the grey. Why they did so is complex. Some undoubtedly supported slavery, but others would have seen “northern tyranny” as parallel to England’s brutality towards their homeland. But thankfully, there were many Irish in the north and the south who saw the obvious parallel to their treatment back home as to the brutality of slavery and what African Americans were enduring. Many of the first activists in the abolitionist movement were Irish or Irish descended. I am a sure a Conan transplanted to 1860 America would not have hesitated to bash in Lee’s, Jackson’s Davis’ and my eponym Bedford Forrest’s heads first. Sorry for the long winded history expectoration. I would just add that I was devouring both the Conan books and comics as well as Tarzan. I loved them both, but was much more drawn to the rugby player hirsute physique of the barbarian then to the lanky swimmer bod of Lord Greystoke. Obviously, twelve/thirteen year old me didn’t realize he was already bear hunting, but there you go.

Deus Moribundis

This comment is not related to this episode, but I just received my copy of Copping Squid!!! Can't wait to start reading it.

MonsterTalk

I'm still in the middle of this ep - but just finished revisiting Starship Troopers (the novel) literally minutes before starting this episode. I was just re-reading it because I hadn't visited it since the 1990s except in the form of the satirical film "based" on it. I was trying to recall if it was one of those books that begged for a new movie. It does not. I mean I like it - but the book is 85% philosophical discussions and only about 5% war/combat/excitement. I now remember why THE MOON IS A HARSH MISTRESS is more fondly remembered than this one. However, when I went to see the movie in 97 I hooked up with a bunch of fellow nerds and at the time I hadn't read the book. I loved the film for its clever satirical content - but they hated it for pretty much subverting every value in the book.

Josh Bell

When you guys made the change to Strange Studies and broadened the scope of the material a bit I was hoping that meant you'd cover Edgar Rice Burroughs at some point. Though not without the same kind of "of the time" attitudes and issues you encounter in other works of the period, I do believe that ERB was not so... emphatic as REH or Lovecraft and appeared to me to adjust his attitudes and depictions as he progressed through the Tarzan series (though this might be my view through rose coloured lenses just hoping against hope that one of my favourite writers was capable of a bit of self-reflection and capacity for change). While Tarzan is of course the banner character, I heartily endores A Princess of Mars for the show. Like was mentioned on the episode, it is planetary romance bedrock and sets the stage for so much of what comes after, as well as being a pacey, action packed, rip roaring adventure of the highest quality. Sit back, let the red mist descend and enjoy a story of entirely naked people fighting non-stop!

Pearce Duncan

Don’t be disappointed, Chad! I just read the book “Running Up That Hill: 50 Visions of Kate Bush” by Tom Doyle. She’s quoted as saying that she was inspired to write “Wuthering Heights” by seeing the end of the tv adaptation and getting scared by Cathy’s ghost putting her hand to the window, but she then read the book as research for writing the song.

Adequately Excellent Entertainment

On the subject of Matt Barry and comedic versions of already funny early 80s stuff… I would argue the Garth Marenghi’s Dark Place did a very good job of doing exactly that. Mostly because they never winked at the camera, explicitly, or proverbially. There’s really something to be said for playing a bit completely straight and few people do that better than Matt Barry and the rest of the cast of that show. (Which includes Richard Ayoade..)

Phil Jensen

Back to Gilles de Rais AND Aleister Crowley....Back in 1930 Arthur Calder-Marshall, representing the Oxford University Poetry Society, invited Crowley on campus to deliver a lecture on any subject of his choosing. Crowley’s choice was to speak on the infamous French ‘black magician’ Gilles de Rais. Gilles de Rais, a soldier and comrade of Joan of Arc, was accused of having abducted over 800 children to use in his nefarious alchemical experiments. The outward thrust of Crowley’s lecture was that 800 is a rather large number. Crowley wrote: ‘Did the disappearance of the first four hundred, say, put no parents on their guard?’ However, the lecture could also be viewed as a very thinly veiled defense of Crowley’s own reputation. Both Crowley and de Rais were surrounded by fantastic tales, which although sensational were also highly improbable. Of course, the lecture was cancelled due to pressure from the Oxford authorities. Not missing a beat Crowley had a pamphlet version of the lecture printed and distributed in Oxford (for Six Pence a piece) on February 3rd, 1930 - the same day the lecture was to have been delivered.