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Extra Credit 014 - Summer Media Catchup (Patreon)

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2023-08-29 13:59:01
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2026-06
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We're talking about a range of things in this extra credit episode:

West of Sundown 

Crime and Punishment 

Petit 

In Cold Blood 

Star Wars: The High Republic 

The Forever War 

Lake Mungo 

The Bear 

Into the Woods 

Spire 

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The Aaron Campbell Studio

As a young child there were only three things I ever wanted to be once I attained my majority. Early on I was determined to become a paleontologist. I would keep copious notes concerning the fossil record of southeastern Missouri and even managed to gather a modest cabinet of curiosities. The prize of my collection being, as I classified it in my journal, “a rock with a really cool spiral thing in it”. One day, however, while attending preparatory school, my arts professor peered over my shoulder at a figure study I was busy at work on. This was during my “muscle-man” period. I distinctly recall her saying “wow, that’s really good. You could be an artist”. It was if Providence had drawn back a curtain revealing my destiny. I knew at that moment an artist and storyteller I would be. So I gave up the childish aspirations of my youth and focused on the arts as my vocation. However, throughout all of this, from the very beginning, from the moment I first conceived an independent thought, I knew there was one thing I would ultimately achieve. One thing that would define and guide my life. Someday I would be a listener of thing called a “podcast”. I did not yet know what podcast it would be. I didn’t even know what that word meant. My parents would say, “stop writing that gibberish word on the walls or we’re going to take your crayons away!”. But here we are now more than 40 years hence and I guess this is it.

Pete Williams

Lake Mungo is fantastic. It's very scary and extremely sad.

The Aaron Campbell Studio

Also, thanks for another awesome shout out about West of Sundown! So the basic set up concerning Dooley’s O’Shaughnessy is that he was a refugee from the potato famine. When our story begins the very first battle of the Civil War, the first battle of Manassas, has just ended, and Dooley has been put on burial duty. He’s burying the dead next to an existing cemetery when he hears a bell ring. The bell is one of those Victorian grave bells that people would put in their graves for fear of being buried alive. Dooley proceeds to dig the grave up to discover our vampire. She had intentionally buried herself to escape from a different vampire hunter also hoping that she would sleep through this stupid war. He becomes enthralled by her and she whisks him off to New York to be her familiar. Without spoiling too much we will later learn that Dooley has, at least, a deep knowledge of the fey due to circumstances concerning his childhood. The idea is that through him we can explore the contrasts and sometimes striking similarities between northern European myth and legend and Latin and Native American myth and legend. Oh, and it all takes place in northern New Mexico, 1870s. We chose that location because it is the origin point of an idea called tres culturas. Three Cultures. It was the end of the Santa Fe trail, as well as the end of the Camino Real so it is theoretically where Native culture, Spanish culture, and Anglo culture met, clashed, and ultimately formed something unique. Of course, there is a lot of contemporary criticism of this notion because it ignores the contributions and influences of other cultures especially black Americans and Asian Americans which is something else we touch on in the series.

Jason Thompson

Did either of you like “Smile”? There’s some heavy-handed obvious lines… it’s not as smart as Lake Mungo… but as a sheer watch-at-night-in-bed movie DAAAMMMNNN 🔥

It's a Ghost.

It sounds like I’ll have to check out Lake Mungo and In Cold Blood (which I picked up at a used bookstore a couple years ago). My recommendation from things I’ve watched this year is the 1920 silent film The Cabinet of Dr. Caligari. I thought it was great and found it to be super weird and creepy in a David Lynch kind of way or simply in a “What am I watching?” kind of way.

Jim Cannon

Read W. Bruce Lincoln's _Red Victory_ earlier this year and have been thinking of tackling some Dostoevsky myself. Project Guttenberg has been great for getting classics to read on my phone when I don't have a "real" book to hand. For example, right now I'm reading _Vathek_ by William Beckford, which I picked solely because Lovecraft (so the rumor goes) got his ghouls from there. Haven't found any ghouls yet, but it is a full on Thousand Nights and One Night fantasy horror escapade. Y'all might want to look into covering it on the show sometime. For those what read modern fantasy, this July I also read _The Blacktongue Thief_ by Christopher Buehlman. Standard fantasy crapsack world, all the rage these days, reminds me of The Witcher 3, but the first person narrator has a great deal of charm and the monsters are proper creepy. The goblins in particular are well done. There was a particular moment where, after reading along at a good clip for several days, something absolutely horrid happened and I had to put the book down for a while. And after enjoying _American Born Chinese_ on Disney+, which was VERY different from Gene Luen Yang's graphic novel, I finally pulled the trigger on a translation of _Journey to the West_, a 2021 single volume adaptation by Julie Lovell. Its a delight. The original four volume novel and Son Wukong in particular have influenced so much modern pop culture, and I have been meaning to read it for literally decades. Kicking myself for waiting so long.

Richard Horsman

I really hope Chad’s interest in the Russians leads to some coverage on the show. Gogol is a natural: The Nose and Viy for choice (the latter has a terrific Soviet era adaptation that would make for fine extra credit). Also one of my favorite novels of all time is Yuri Olesha’s Envy. It’s a pretty short and very weird novel about disaffected slackers under Stalin that absolutely fits the show’s brief.

Evan

Chris, based on the bit about fantasy social order stuff at the end, curious if you’ve ever watched The Platform. Spanish Sci-Fi film, you should still be able to find it on Netflix. Very good, darker and potentially more graphic due to being a film and not a TTRPG or GN, but it involves a tall building and eating people so my brain just kind of jumped there.

David Halstead

Need a full reading of Crime and Punishment

Chris Beres

I'd love to hear you guys do a space war month where you cover The Forever War and Starship Troopers, both influential books but with very different takes on war and civilization. Spacetober/vember/cember!

William Rieder

Hearing the Dostoevsky quote reminded me of the start of episode 118, where Chad reads an excerpt of HPL's letter on almost exactly the same subject.

Robby H.

Chris, I remember you saying you read the Dresden Files a couple of years ago. Are you still keeping up with that series? There are some Lovecraftian elements ts in the series. Also, you guys should check out Ron Ripley on Audible. You can get the "Berkeley Street" 9 book series for a single credit on Audible. He has multiple series that are connected (in so much characters from one series get mentioned in another series). He writes ghost stories that break the traditional ghost story tropes. Ghosts will kick your ass in this universe. I don't know if his works would be up your alley, but it's worth a credit to at least try (not suitable for kids though)

Matt Bustin

Sped through The Forever War over the weekend off the back of this episode, please cover it at some point.