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Study 061 - The Fly (Patreon)

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2023-10-06 05:04:11
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Catch the buzz as we discuss George Langelann's short story, The Fly!

Special thanks to reader Andrew Leman!

Here's that Return of the Fly song by the Misfits that Lackey keeps singing.

Next up: The Legend of Sleepy Hollow by Washington Irving

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Illegal_Structures

I really hope the cat sound effect makes a comeback 😹🙀

Paul Lloyd

There's a 1937 Arthur C Clarke short story, "Travel By Wire", that takes a humorous approach to teleportation accidents... regarding the writing under the ashtray being reversed, there's another short story - I think by Clarke - where a human comes out of a teleporter reversed left-for-right so that for example his heart in now on his right side. The problem becomes that some chemicals display "handedness" (don't have mirror symmetry) and his body can no longer process standard food... might be the same story actually :-D

DR

When you brought up Star Trek transporters I thought for sure you were going to mention the transporter accident in the motion picture where two crew members are fused together. We don’t see what arrives on the other side but are told by the crew that “what we got back ... didn't live long”

Erik Gordon

If we've suffered the death, mistreatment,dismemberment and other D words just keep the cat. Save that cat!

Richard Horsman

1) Why did Andrew not do ze story using a, how you say? ludicrous French accent? Zut alors! Name of a dog! 2) Spock Must Die! was by Sci-fi grandmaster James Blish, who I suspect is going to make it onto the show one of these days. I just read his short story "Surface Tension" in the SF Hall of Fame Anthology and really dug it. 3) I also really dug this story. Like Jeek-ill and Hyde I knew everything that was going to happen, and it was still creepy as hell.

Hayden Orr

I can’t believe nobody has made a movie or a comic about Moreau’s humanimals fighting human animal hybrids created by the teleportation device from the fly. Humanimals versus Humanimals. And maybe Doctor Moreau becomes a The Fly, himself, with the added ability of spectral meowing! One krillion dollar idea here, people.

Mark Simmons

After all these years, now I discover there's an extra monster in the original story. I can only hope that, some day, a brave storyteller will bring the Fly-Cat-Man Final Form to the screen.

Sweatin' to the Great Oldies

There was a delightfully silly "game" made to help promote Resident Evil: Nemesis in which you splice together people with a variety of animals and see what cool combos you can make. And just as in The Fly, you can add extra splice for extra spice. I've looked for the game from time to time - let's say out of nostalgia - but have been unable to find it.

It's a Ghost.

Chad, when you said, “We’re transitioning from last month’s science fiction into a month of horror stories, and when you want to build that bridge between two genres, you need to engage the services of,” I totally thought you were going to say, “Playboy Magazine."

Steve

As a British officer, he was a "leftenant". And nice try with Helene, but it's not El-Lean, but El-Len.

Jim Cannon

You guys have me trained so well. As soon as I heard Andrew's voice, I thought "This'll be a good one!"

Innsmouth Gold

The first The Fly movie is a favourite - that ending scene still evokes a shudder! Help me! Help me! I never knew it was from a story, so it was great to hear this episode. And also very interesting to hear about Langelann's history, particularly his SOE activities. This resonated as I live not far from a village called Tempsford, and it was from a small airfield in Tempsford that SOE agents were flown over to occupied Europe. There is a small museum at the site, and a memorial in the village itself, enscribed with the names of 75 brave SOE women, and a most poignant code poem with a fascinating back story. As well as that, Tempsford is also the site of a large Viking battle and a haunted mansion! If anyone wants to know more, here's a video I made last year on a visit to the village. https://youtu.be/nfIKfchuWZE?si=l9uaIGPKrE51yFMo

nils hedglin

There was a comedian/presenter in Northern California that wore a fly head and went by the name Francois Fly. I wonder if this is where he got the name.

David Halstead

That ending scene with "HELP ME!" has so permeated the culture. People know that even if they haven't seen the movie.

David Halstead

You forgot to mention the other sequel to the original film, the 70s classic Super Fly!

Michael Cunliffe

Blame my artist’s imagination but when I heard that cat reference in the description of his monstrous head, I could see nothing but a man with the head and arm of an adorable cat trying to use a typewriter like the keyboard cat.

Erik Jordan Phillips

I had an idea for a short horror talkie along the line of been my replaced every 7 years, but somehow all at once. Which direction would be more effective? Your cells dying but not being replaced or some imposter who looks just like you shows up to your work place or home and tries to evil doppelgänger kill you in secret?

Daniel Hernández

Can we have that meowing cat as a ringtone? I want it 🥺

Aidan McSweeney

You two should cover “Coraline” by Neil Gaiman sometime! The book is really short (It’s not very different from the movie) but I think it would bring up some great conversation. Thanks!

Andrew Trnacek

You could say that during the war as a spy George was a real -fly on the wall!

Ketus

Couldn't find anything about Michael J Fox being originally casted as Martin Brundle, but rather Keanu Reeves. He turned down the role clearly. Another question that comes up is whether Hollywood is working on a remake of The Fly and if they should remake it being that Cronenberg knocked it out of the park.

It's a Ghost.

Listening to this episode a second time, your conversation about transporters killing you and then making a duplicate of you somewhere else reminded me of a couple Doctor Who quotes about regeneration. In David Tennant’s penultimate episode of Doctor Who, he says, “I can still die. If I’m killed before regeneration, then I’m dead. Even then, even if I change, it feels like dying. Everything I am dies. Some new man goes sauntering away…and I’m dead.” And then in Jodie Whittaker’s first episode of Doctor Who, she says, “There’s this moment when you’re sure you’re about to die….and then you’re born.” I think the quotes in part represent the different personalities of David and Jodie’s Doctors, but the quotes also make me think how I might be hesitant to use a transporter that kills me; but then, especially if the transporting was for a good reason (for example escaping a disaster), I’d be very happy on the other side to be alive.

Jeremy Impson

So, in the Star Wars franchise, there's an expanded universe book called Red Harvest that's basically a zombie horror story. Given the common point of teleportation, I regret that the universe never begat a similar Star Trek horror adaptation of The Fly which would have finally allowed a crossover between my two favorite podcasts-hosted-by-Chris Lackey.

Ben A

And once more we can add yet another instance of violence to cats to the body count of the stories you guys have covered. Notable examples include cats killed by Zoogs, a cat shocked to death (based on its expression), a cat complicit in murder and an act of cannibalism, a cat turned invisible, a black cat maimed and murdered (only to enact revenge), and now cats teleported into thin air. I’m sure I am missing a few. Save the cat?! More like felis mortis ex machina. But now I can start a new row on my animal cruelty in fiction checklist of shame—flies. Unless you count the screwfly, but that didn’t appear in that tale; it only inspired it. They join a long list including dozens of dogs killed by migo, tsathoggua, & elder things (as well as the Thing), ghosts of horses seeking revenge, giant penguins killed by shoggoths, millions of dead ants killed in dozens of ways, thousands of dead rats, and a poor plesiosaur that was in the wrong place at the wrong time, not to mention many animal-human hybrids. Oh, the humanity!

Eric - Speaker in Digressions

I've been watching Mike Flanagan's "Fall of the House of Usher"--flawed but worthwhile so far--which puts a bunch of Poe stories in a blender, including "The Black Cat." (I should probably clarify from context that I don't mean a cat ends up in a blender. Maybe I should have said it was a "remix.") Anyway, Flanagan has already shown that it's hard for him to make a TV series without hurting some fictional cats; I almost wonder if he picked a Poe theme as an excuse. The series, by the way, features Mark Hamill doing a Harvey-Fierstein voice as a shady lawyer. Also, Bruce Greenwood from the Abrams-verse Trek movies, which moves us towards the next topic: I owned "Spock Must Die" in the 80s along with dozens of other pre-TNG Trek novels, but I don't remember much about it. But another book I've read considerably more recently, China Miéville's "Kraken," a fun read about magical cults in contemporary London competing to bring about rival apocalypses, has a supporting wizard character whose magical paradigm is Star-Trek based; the question of whether transporters kill people becomes pressing.

badgerspoon

Regarding the discussion of Star Trek's transporters killing people, my longstanding headcanon is that this explains why most people in the Federation are so thoroughly lacking any sense of spirituality. The first time everyone uses the transporter, they immediately die and are replaced with a soulless copy. Only people who've never used a transporter could understand why God needs a starship.

Nic Wassell

The "although I killed my husband, I am not a murderess" bit had definite shades of the beginning of The Thing on the Doorstep. Given this show's antecedents, I was a bit surprised there wasn't a discussion about the Lovecraftian nature of the half man/half insect and the themes of the invasion of the human mind by an alien/bestial intelligence.

Anonymous
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This, the horror isn't just "thing that should not be" but what would it be like for either half.

Pam Winkler

So, the “you’re not as smart as your brother” was harsh, but he had just been trying to get to her about the fly. So I’ve got no issues with it.

Aaron Cox

I have been trying to explain to people for years the connection between this movie and the Terminator. I don’t think it could be a coincidence either. Especially since James Cameron got his start working for Roger Corman.