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SHHG! Episode 12: Deer Kicks (Patreon)

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2023-08-04 14:00:10
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We've finished The Hunger Games, and we're feeling a little rowdy! We celebrate the end of the book (and Liz's birthday!) by immediately checking in on what sort of Relatable Hunger Games Content we can find. We take a quiz about how our taste in decor would affect our chances in the Games (really), read incredibly mean grandmas commenting on Williams-Sonoma cooking videos, and see what the Hunger Games subreddit has to offer--all that and a discussion about the final chapters of the novel and our thoughts on the book as a whole!

Comments

Niels Poldervaart

And good timing too. I really need something to brighten my day.

Nat Harris

Happy birthday liz!! 🎂 my husband has found a trove of AI "Harry Spotter" gym bro videos on youtube and will NOT stop playing them (there are a horrifying amount of them) and all I can think of every time is you guys 😂😭 he doesn't even know harry potter outside of what his siblings watched as kids 😂😭

ZiggyWSB .

I think with the Capitol-Reaction you can best understand it by contrasting their stylists(not Cinna) and Snow. The stylists seem to be very happy for Katniss while also talking about the Death-Highlights without understanding her feelings, while Snow is angry about the Outcome. So there are the politicians who want to punish the lower classes and the upper class audience, who just accepts the HG as existing and not something that can be criticized or abolished and are happy and entertained about there being victors. Edit: Oh, you talk about that a bit later.

Diana Gibson

Happy birthday, Liz!!! And congrats on finishing book 1, I'm so excited for the rest of the series!

Owl

Happy birthday Liz! And a Happy Hunger Games to you both! :3

lemon cupcake

The idea that Flowey's main attack is biting is a very funny image Also: adventure time deer gloves gif

Carrie

I kind of love that the Capitol seems to be a realistic regime in that its a total self-sabotaging shitshow thats determined to fly by the seat of its pants

Nat Harris
>>114510192

In solidarity with the writer's & actor's strike going on right now, from what I understand!

Kzinssie

It's a shame (but understandable) you aren't doing the movie because IIRC there IS a lot of cutting to the spectators and like the GM war room

Joshua Smith

Happy Hunger Games Liz. May the cakes be ever in your f(l)avour! All the stuff about the stylists earlier in the book (mainly about them being superficial and a bit irritating) kind of pays off in the final chapters of the book. Love Katniss realising that Effie is much more aware than she seems, while most of the stylists are not.

Ryan

I think the reason the Capitol needs a winner is because they want to give the people in the Districts hope that they better their situation. It’s a “bootstraps” mythology, where the way to better yourself is by stepping on other people, so that they’ll tear each other apart each trying to be the winner. If the system had no winner, than the only response would be to destroy it. It works as a metaphor more than as actual world building, but I give it credit for recognizing that hope can be reactionary, given how many people have a naive belief in hope’s political value.

kam

Happy birthday, liz!!!!

Madison Sveen

Happy birthday Liz! I only found the podcast recently but it's been keeping me entertained during a very busy couple of weeks! Thanks so much. The repeated suggestions of Annihilation bear is hilarious to me. I love that movie a lot, I didn't realize that bear scene made such an impact on the Hunger Games fanbase. Its a very scary scene for sure. But I can't imagine annihilation bear would do all that much for the hunger games. Hunger Games already has creatures that mimic human voices. Deer with human feet on the other hand, absolute must have in the next hunger games universe story.

Kieren

Happy birthday!

Kzinssie

Scrolling through the Mother 3 bestiary for cool mutt ideas

Emma Schaefer

Omg, I have an insane story relevant to "deer with human feet." My parents have an old family friend, Mr. X, who is an older family man in his sixties and has worked a lot of important jobs with some high levels of security clearance. At the time of this story, Mr. X had been mentioning wanting to write a book for years, or, more specifically, wanting to hire me to be his ghost writer on a book, because I think I am the only remotely creative person he knows. The content of this book was always top secret and he wouldn't tell anyone what it was about, so we all assumed it was something to do with one of his jobs and he was waiting for a NDA to be up or some part of his work to become public knowledge. Then came the day of my sister's wedding (yes actually). Even though I was at the bridesmaid's table with the wedding party, Mr. X somehow found a way to sneak in and sit next to me throughout the whole dinner, because he'd decided it was finally time to tell me all about his brilliant book idea. He leaned in close, spread his hands out, and, as if making a grand announcement, whispered, "Elk." He let the single word sit there, no elaboration. I said, "Elk? Like... Deer?" He nodded and said, "Yes... But the elk have human hands!" At this point I was already trying really hard not to laugh but I was trying to be polite and was kind of trapped at the reception table. So I said, "Oh... What do the elk do?" "Well, one of them has a gun." "Oh. So are the elk... hunting humans, is it a kind of turnaround, predator-prey reversal story?" "Well, you're good at writing so I'll leave that up to you. I just want there to be elk politics. You know. Democrats. Republicans. Maybe the deer with the gun shoots someone." I definitely did not know. "Is there a... message, or a theme, or a... plot?" "That's all up to you. Just, you know, the hands, maybe the elk with hands were created by somebody." "So kind of a Jurassic Park thing?" I said. He looked very insulted and muttered, "I guess it's A LITTLE derivative of Jurassic Park." All I could think was that this is like Warrior Cats crossed with that one Far Side cartoon where deer break into a person's house and shoot them. I kept trying to figure out what the actual story he had in mind was (and how the elk hands were supposed to work). He kept saying "the story is up to you, you're good at that." But! He had one scene in mind, "where the elk is in a house, and the windows are open, and there's music coming in through the windows, just music everywhere, very beautiful." I said, "I think that sounds a little hard to do in a book. If there's music it sounds like it would fit a movie scene better." He nodded enthusiastically and said "Yes! Exactly! It will be a book trilogy, and you can write the screenplay, too, and Disney will buy it. Because it's also got universal appeal for kids. Maybe you can also direct the movie." I spent most of the rest of the wedding reception alternating listening to him and trying to avoid him because I was cracking up and having a really hard time hiding it. He literally stalked me around the reception hall for the rest of the night like something out of a horror movie. I'd be talking to someone else and in the distance he'd lean out from behind a pillar, watching me and waiting hopefully for me to be alone so he could corner me to talk about elk again. I want to be clear that I am not making fun of some senile old guy who's off his rocker here. This is a completely normal family man who still works in very high security positions. And he worked on this for YEARS. At the end of the night he asked me not to tell anybody his book plot, but of course I had already been relaying the story via text to some friends because I was losing my mind. And, honestly, there's not really anything I could tell people about the book plot, because he didn't HAVE a plot. Just elk. With human hands. Which he kept reiterating like that idea alone could carry a trilogy. It was honestly one of the most surreal nights of my life and again all of this happened AT MY SISTER'S WEDDING. It was a couple of years ago but I live out of state so I haven't really seen him since. I don't think he ever found a ghost writer.

Kzinssie
>>114608801

My first question would be where do the hands go? Are they bipedal, do they just have hand hooves like monkeys, are the hands on the *antlers?* My second question would be what the fuck is going on. Anyway thank you for this incredible story I will remember this for the rest of my life, especially given I have a deer fursona and therefore am a deer with human hands

Emma Schaefer
>>114608801

He never explained! I always pictured it as hands instead of hooves, with them walking on the hands. I never considered the antlers as a possibility and now I don't know which one is creepier.

Cromalin

hold on, the butterflies are just the golden witch beatrice. this person read episode 1 of umineko

Blythe Atkinson

Catching Fire was my favorite book of the trilogy (and probably also my favorite movie). It ramps up the bizarre science bullshit to Stephen King levels. I hope you have fun with it :)

Niels Poldervaart

When you mentioned the deer with human feet I picture it as it wearing Converse.

Alex

Went to a flea market and someone had Rue and Cato dolls from when the movie came out. It was so weird!!

cml

perhaps instead of a movie episode you can review all of the “this is war” hunger games AMVs that i’m sure are floating around our there!