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Check out NADDPOD's Patreon exclusive after show! This week, we discuss the events of Trinyvale X Strahd: Ep. 8 - All Will Be Well!

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clerby

tysm actively moving into college 🙌🏽🙌🏽🙌🏽

Nowaey

as a worker at whole foods, i resent the idea that i wouldn't be able to handle a naked man at the hot bar- i feel good about it.

Nowaey

and let me know if you want the details on getting all the good discounts, I just quit! It's...unrelated to above hypothetical

everett harbaugh

guys please do vampire the masquerade or werewolf the apocalypse you need to after the insanity of this episode

Josh Owl

I'm enjoying the homebrew/3rd party spells. They're so interesting. Endoleech was great. Over and out 🫡

Sephiroth Did Nothing Wrong

I won't stand for this misunderstanding of badminton rules. You guys were talking about serving, but beyond that you can absolutely spike a shuttlecock. Also, thank you for giving me the context to type the word 'shuttlecock'.

garb0w0dor

This episode is so lost in the tank, the tank is hidden in the beyond section of Bed, Bath, and Beyond.

Colton T

Free the west bank

Tony

Please watch Click as a mixed bag. I cried during it

Lucia

hi emily, native romanian speaker here (apparently moldovan and romanian are officially glottonyms for the same language) let me know if you want any phrases spoken into a microhpone :^)

Kellyd

I think people who say that hearing other people's dreams is boring are weird af, you heard that one time on the internet and thought it was a slam dunk to make fun of people forever, yall are simply not curious people

Scottee

Maybe this gets addressed later in the podcast, but rules clarification for the curious! Duplicate looks to be a 3rd party spell, as are (I think) basically all of Jens' spells this campaign. Technically not official, but dndbeyond's format is confusing, especially since I assume they own like every book on it.

clerby

i am taking writing the feature film class this year, if you want i will spend the semester writing the vampire/werewolf mountain movie and i will love it and my professor might not 🫶🏽

Blubread00

Them talking about being wasted and then relating it to warging reminded me of that zachthebold skit with the 2 drink limit

Tori

The dungeon court case you were thinking about was the one about pressing a key into a bar of soap and then melting metal into the indent to replace the key, I think! You decided it was kinda stupid because it was kinda stupid.

The Grinch (feral)

If you do end up doing this please lmk bc I will watch the shit out of that.

brianchi

PLEASE MIXED BAG WHERE THE TWO CREW WATCHES CLICK

The Grinch (feral)

So despite being young, hot, and sexy, I also have so many health issues that basically have turned me into a vampire and I can say it’s not for the weak. I can’t go outside w/o 100 spf sunscreen and long sleeves, even in the winter, and have some sort of electrolyte beverage with me everywhere so I can make enough blood to not pass out. Naddpod has been a life saver all the millions of times I’ve had to go to the er for fluids bc I almost passed out again bc I didn’t have enough blood in my brain, so yall are totally right. Being a vampire fucking sucks. But hey atleast we’re hot tho

Andrew

“Am I good enough for you?” The immediate “yes” from Murph was so sweet

Kid Chaos, the pride and torment of the podcast

No there was another case where a wizard I think had like a thing that let him remake objects and the player made a point of saying « I take a good look at these keys » beforehand, but when they asked to replicate them the dm said the wizard couldn’t possibly remember the details of the key and tried to draw a real life parallel by walking through the room while holding their car keys. The court did rule in favor of the player I believe

Tori

Ooh maybe it was that one. Many instances of key related cases.

Kid Chaos, the pride and torment of the podcast

Okay so Kate Beckinsale is a vampire in Underworld, in which vampires and werewolves are at war with each other. The werewolf leader being played by a very sexy Michael Sheen, who was also dating Kate at the time. Michael Sheen of course went on to play a vampire in Twilight, whereas Kate Beckinsale played a vampire hunter in Van Helsing. A movie in which werewolves are Dracula’s thralls once they have completely transformed but also a werewolf is the only thing that can kill Dracula, which is how Hugh Jackman’s Van Helsing -who is also the arch angel Gabriel, and as we all know Michael Sheen did go on to play an angel on Good Omens- ultimately defeats him, by temporarily becoming a werewolf before being cured right at the last minute, but also Kate Beckinsale dies, which sucks. Thank you for coming to my ted talk.

Anna Sun

Hearing Emily theorize about Vampire symbolism reminds me of “The Vampire: A New History” by Nick Groom. Very interesting monograph that discusses the roles of the vampire in European folklore and history. Highly recommend it!

James Wade

Can we consider weregarurumon as a familiar? Hine leg bad ass looking talking werewolf?

AJ Carreau

Kinda Crazy that Murph kinda just nailed click without even seeing it 😂

Lucia

i think the wizard was also a conjuration subclass

Kid Chaos, the pride and torment of the podcast

Also, idk that « people » say that werewolves are a metaphor for STDs, I know my enemy JK Rowling has said that, specifically about aids, and it was very poorly received, even before her abominable heal turn. Werewolf have been around since ancient times and are usually a metaphor for like the duality of man caught between his primal nature and like.. societal expectations and such, it’s about repressed desires and rage and such. Also puberty sometimes

Cameron Cook

I saw Click with my older cousin Trent in theaters and I'm pretty sure we both cried at the end

James (plz make more trinyvale eps)

This comment left me speechless for some reason. You never know what you’ll read in the comments, but this was especially unexpected.

The Grinch (feral)

Sometimes I forget I’m the grinch on here and have to do a double take lol. But thanks, I try *feral toothy grin with so many yellowed sharp teeth*

clerby

only if murph says i can, it is his idea, and he lives in la which i think gives him blacklisting powers, so i’m not trying to play him lol

Zachary Powers

I’d argue vampires are more of an STD metaphor

Zachary Powers

If werewolves revert to dog years in wolf form and are only in wolf form during the night of the full moon, you’d probably lose a little under a month of your life per year as a werewolf. After about 13 years, that’s a full year gone.

gerard

Good to know that Jake is on the side of werewolves

Brandon R

Click Mixed Bag when?

Ripley Stardust Love

we need an emily dream journal segment because as someone with weird dreams it was very funny hearing her talk about hers

Summer, Autumn Eladrin

You're Dead to Me is a history podcast by the BBC that actually has a great episode on the history of vampire lore and literature. Vampire fiction in general is about whatever taboo the author wants to explore.

Kellyd

Dreams are literally a drug trip that our brains naturally produce so we can be productive members of society and if people aren't interested in that I can't imagine what they ARE interested in

Summer, Autumn Eladrin

Fun fact about werewolf lore/history. Not Just the Tudors has an episode about a real life werewolf trial where a guy named Old Tiess claimed to be a werewolf. Every once in awhile, people will pop up in historical witchcraft trials claiming to be werewolves but they fight on the side of good. They claim that every year Witches from hell try to drag fertile soil down to hell with them and the werewolves are there to fight off the evil Witches. Pretty metal!

iamnotjackblack

Click was a great movie! My dad took me to see it 3 times in theaters.... I think he may have been having a rough time tbh

xatlern

A 36 year old who won't eat a tomato? That's just a Nathan Yaffee call-out 😂

Chrys

I’m a Sagittarius Sun, Leo Rising, Sagittarius Moon. This was hilarious

Brant

It’s so funny to hear Emily say she doesn’t think she’s a double diamond at anything when I think she is singularly one of the most talented improv performers around.

Ben Daly

Just wanted to say that Emily is clearly a double black diamond/Olympic Gold medallist of Comedy as Murph was saying but also as A DnD player/DM (shout out Hot Boy Summer and Twilight Sanctorum!

Pamphleteer

They were probably thinking of Fabricate when they were talking about Duplicate

joel

just gonna join the chorus of people saying that Em is a singular talent. there are people as funny as her, people that embody their characters like her, and people that can carry a scene like her - but truly no one does all three quite like Em can.

Amanda Bouchard

I'm a Sag sun and Leo rising as well! I felt well represented. 😂

Benjamin P Parson Gomberg

It’s been years since I’ve seen it. I don’t remember the character names, or really any of the comedic moments of the movie, but I still remember the scene where he tells his dad he always knew about the coin trick. And the scene where he rushes out of the hospital to the parking lot to talk to his son. I teared up at the first and cried at the second. I went to see it as a teenager thinking it was just going to be another wacky Sandler comedy, and I remember it pretty much started out that way. It made the sincere emotional gut punches hit all the harder. I can still remember Henry Winkler’s (Sandler’s dad) voice choked up with humiliated tears as he apologized for wasting his son’s time. Some really affecting performances that you’d never expect from a movie like that.

Parma Jun

Caldwell wants to talk about Nishinoya so badly and we should let him

Mr. Dude Sky

Lake George mention! Only place I have heard a wolf howl and it was spine chilling.

Clever Innuendo

Teen Wolf was a thinly veiled allusion to being a black guy, and no, that's not just my personal theory.

Penpen

I believe that ravens and wolves have been shown to share a symbiotic relationship in the wild where a raven will track prey for wolves and then be allowed to feast on the carcass afterwards. So a Werewolf Nyack could have had a raven companion, maybe even a familiar friend from Bahumia that another Jake character was never able to form a real relationship with

katie potato

Dead body on the zoom (thats when life happens) is one of my favourite albums

Adam!!!!!

jake soft announcing he's a furry by saying he wants wolves to be sexy

Daniel Wong

Now we know why we will never see Murph on Smartypants

Adam!!!!!

featuring hit single: Double Black Diamond

Unbaked

My two mottos: "This is ridiculous" and "That's when life happens"

Pontifex

Ever since the Grinch came bounding out of that cave on all fours… Anything “bounding” will always crack me up

Vilaykham Sukhaseum

"Wolves are sexy, too. To me," Jake Hurwitz, 2025. In Van Helsing 2004, the wolves were incredibly sexy! Well, to me.

CommodoreBlue

As an avid D&D Court listener and re-listener, without getting into specifics, you guys do generally practice what you preach. It’s all on brand and consistent.

Mthunzi Ramphele

Guys. Please. Please please please please do a View Crew episode for Click. It was the movie I watched on my first ever date when I was 12, and I need my rose-colored glasses to be shattered by you menaces (AND WOMENACES!)

Tannictor

Dog years for an werewolf is so funny

Dan S

Zealous Nyack has similar vibes to Immortal Kenneth from 30 Rock - it's hilarious.

Ryanne Wallace

I can't believe we got an update on Emily singing with her siblings but not an update on whether or not Jake's dad ever drank while driving

Ilana Galpert

Wow. I wasn't going to go to my son's graduation but...maybe I should

joel

idk if you know but that's when life happens

Carter Milius

I can’t believe I was around for the episode where Murph and Emily got a divorce…crazy…

Logan

There are a few Werewolf stories were they actually stop aging in there werewolf form. But they do age in their human form. So their lifespan is actually lengthened a little bit.

Blue Oak Woodland Wizard

Historical Homos podcast released a good ep recently called “The Queer History of Vampires” if anyone is looking for a fun, queer-centric discussion on the significance of vampires in folklore from ancient times through to modern day pop culture

Mikel

That was jawesome. Prime short rest energy

Mnixon

Thank u whoever edited and posted this xox

Chris B

For those looking to use it in their setting, Duplicate is not from the 2024 Players Handbook, it's from the 3rd party sourcebook Obojima (https://obojima.com) that's a Miyazaki setting. DND Beyond defaults to enabling new 3rd party sourcebooks whenever you create a new character until you disable it. (And if you're in a campaign run by someone who has the "unlimited, everything ever released on DND Beyond" - regardless whichever campaign that character you are creating ends up in - you too will have all these books at your disposal even if you never knew about them, so double check your spell sources in their descriptions).

Tannictor

My dreams are so crazy I would think they're prophetic if every other dream wasn't world ending!

thiswayjose

The whole ski vs snowboard pitch could be a Mavrus Chronicles one-shot-turned-mini-campaign

Chris B

Hot Boys Winter campaign

katie potato

Yes, what about a view crew!??

J. Gro

If you think there's no spiking in badminton, then you haven't watched Olympic/Paralympic badminton. It's fast-paced and way more hardcore than I ever could have imagined.

thiswayjose

Dare I say, Cold Boys Campaign?

Tim Nelson

Jake should’ve had disadvantage, the target doesn’t matter, just if a hostile creature is within 5 feet :/

Smiththebat

Noooooo nooooo. It is absolutely NOT all about lobbing in badminton and you can absolutely smash the SHUTTLECOCK to get a point and in fact it’s very common. Excuse you, Jack.

Col998

Amazing that Murph didn't remember the plot of Click but absolutely sniped the "fast-forwarded through his wife talking" scene.

Snickerdoodle Scamp

In general on the conversation Werewolf’s often represent transformation, duality, and repressed desires. There are some comparisons to sexual diseases on the lines of the repressed desires and how it can spread between two people at night. The modern vampire often represent fear of the unknown, exploitation, and sexuality. The later two often relates to abuse especially as thralls and spawn often are turned by force. This especially comes into play with wealth component as vampires are often depicted as wealthy and werewolves often are more “naturalistic”

Matty H

I'm gonna start making and "that's when life happens" references everywhere and really, that's where life happens

Your Good Buddy Brandon

I would pay good money for a mixed bag where the crew watches Click, mostly so I can hear them talk about the emotional whiplash of suddenly bursting into tears during that one Henry Winkler scene.

Kori

omg I’m so sensitive I’m tearing up at the end where they say the kids singing Aladdin in the back of the car…there’s when life happens. I don’t even have kids but i think that’s right

Fox

They’ve also documented playing with wolf pups!

Zoop

The way I see it, in order to tackle the werewolf vs vampire question, one must first establish the specific lore they’re drawing from. Specifically, in answering which is worse, I’d wanna know to what extent, if at all, becoming a vampire entails losing your human soul. To a lesser but still relevant extent, Id also wanna know (among other things) if the hypothetical existed in a world where werewolves were highly persecuted by vampires (a la underworld) as well as to what extent both creatures were actively hunted by mortals. All of which is to say that imo There’s j too much differing lore out there to weigh vampires against werewolves w/o preemptively determining what lore specifically to go by

Zoop

This gets to the fundamental issue with the question: the lore for both vampires and werewolves differs far too much to determine which would be worse without first establishing which lore you’re going off of

Townes

Petition for a view crew review of the 2006 (sorry Murph) Adam Sandler smash hit "Click". Cause thats when life happens

sdShine16

this whole thing was a fever dream

Hugo Wull

Okay the DND Court case was a player who wanted to press a bar of soap into the key held by the guard to create an imprint, then use that imprint to copy the key. Absolutely wild convoluted planning by the player.

Hugo Wull

Also Um, Actually! The Double Blacks at Lake Placid are fairly accessible! Minus the sheer ice you get when skiing the east coast. They have the Olympic courses marked on the Whiteface trail maps so you can live out your sports hero fantasies.

Blaize Gordon

This short rest has me fiending for a episode of surprise round!

Larry Scott

I don't know if it is based on it or not but there is a short story called Peter and the magic thread about a boy who gets the ability to fast forward time.

Hashtaggles

Not me forgetting this is a podcast not a discord server and almost yelling about the movie underworld

Becca_rebaker

30:09 Murphy answering Emily's "am i good enough for you" bit with such a sincere "yessssss" 😍🤣❤️

Rebecca N

I believe there was also a different case where a conjuration wizard said they paid close attention to a sketchy person's keys, and then when said person locked the party in their room overnight, the wizard tried to create a replica of the keys using an ability they had. I don't remember how the ruling on that one went though

jbyrd

Putty wizard and hair vampire in one episode!

Max Herzog

Murph absolutely nails the Click synopsis. That movie traumatized me as a kid, I don't wanna miss out on life 😭

Luke Lu-LaLiberte

Can't believe we missed the hat trick of Jake characters turning into monsters (spoilers I guess) Hardwon - vamp Mavis - ghoul Nyack - where we're wereing, we don't need no stinking wolves

🐧lost penguin familiar

Duplicate spell is from Obojima!!! The new book built for 5e but it's theme is Legend of Zelda meets Studio Ghibli inspired with 80s tech! The artwork and everything is so awesome! All you naddpod fans need to check it out. Its on dnd beyond too for (2014)5e classes. (The team who created it is out of Portland, OR) (im from Oregon!) 😁😁😁 so psyched that murph bought that and clearly shared content with everyone!

Aaron Bowyer

Came here to say this, smashing is such a core part of the game!

LM Larson

The voice / vibe of Vallachia sounds like Remmick, Joan, and Bert from Sinners. 🖤🖤🖤

Georgia

"uh oh! ive gotta carve down the whole thing or im gonna die!!" relatable experience

Cheese of the Lake

I’ve been having a lot of plane crash dreams as well lately! I had one last night a plane crashed into an interstate highway system and nobody batted an eye at all

Logan B.

"What Happens in Movies: 'Have I Not Seen This?' Edition" The hits just pour out.

Clotilde

Emily "Written Multiple Full Albums Of Incredible Music" Axford saying there's nothing in her life she's a double black diamond is insane btw

Shane Kelly

Emily axford probably in top 10 dnd players in world, not a double black diamond in anything

Michael Graham Abernathy

He's 36 and won't eat a tomato? Caldwell, are you talking shit about Nathan Yaffe?

Amelias Bedelias

“Were you in the Olympics?!?! 🫨🫨🫨🫨🫨”

Emily

I need to info dump here; I have facts to share but I can’t remember them. The book Vampyre is where the whole ‘brooding, good looking, smooth talking, astorcracy (can’t spell)’ vampire comes from. It’s an inspiration for Batman, Dracula and if I had to guess, Strahd. Before vampires were thought of bloated creatures of the night. I’ll add more plus my sources but yeah!

Jackson Roth

Click for Mixed Bag? 😏🤔

Katie P.

I've fallen down a double black diamond, lost one ski in a tree and the other was floating down a creak. I was rescued by a snowboarder who very kindly climbed up the tree to get my ski for me. He had those reflective goggles and a mask on but I'v been a little in love with that stranger ever since lol

Jane Paintrain

The dream journal trinket came up in my Strahd game, and yes the player immediately bonded it to someone else and learn their deeams.

Chanel Chatman

As someone who’s watched Click A LOT… I’m dying at how accurate your guess’ of the plot are

Akira

Gotta say as a person who worked in whole foods: people do unhinged shit. Someone went to the meat counter, opened it, took a raw lamb piece, and left it on the shelf with nothing around it. I'd ask the wolf man to shoot me and put me outta my misery. (They let people steal but yell at us about the loss but wanted us to do...nothing? I quit when they told us we had alloted non paid time off and we'd be fired if we got sick lol)

Tanya K

The werewolf age acceleration reminds me of the speedster Track Star from the game Dispatch. He could move at 50 times the speed of a human but his body aged at 50times the rate when he sped up, which was tragic

Walker Thurman

Crocs on his hands and crocs on his feet Cross-body bag while he sprints down the street Friendly smile from white sharp teeth Vegetarian Gregg is the guy you want to meet

Beth Sophia

This always gets me when I relisten! Kate's vampire character falls for a hot werewolf/vampire hybrid in Underworld! And Kevin Grevioux was not only a super hot werewolf but one of the writers. Also, everything I've ever read of vampire and werewolf traditional stories (I'm forever fascinated with folk tales and mythology and morality tales, and once wrote a Comparative Mythology paper the morning it was due about Anne Rice vs Bram Stoker vs older stories from Romania/Wallachia, I'm deep in the vampire lore) seems less about STIs and more about SA. Vampires are coercion and werewolves are blitz attacks. And the ones who survive are forever marked as unclean and shunned. That's not just STIs, that is being seen as less-than because they were "defiled" though no fault of their own I'm sure a lot of people don't agree with that, especially people who went to school for this stuff, but if you read the old stories you'll see why that was my conclusion.