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Short Rest: Trinyvale X Strahd - Ep. 14 (Patreon)

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2025-10-31 15:00:00
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2025-10-31 22:21:42
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Check out NADDPOD's Patreon exclusive after show! This week, we discuss the events of Trinyvale X Strahd: Ep. 14 - Burned Out.

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FlanMan

I just can't believe how poorly Jake was rolling, his performance this session deserves a thorn, lest I be scorned.

FlanMan

I want to point out this is sarcasm.

Kat !

WELCOME BACK WHEN DID THINGS COME OUT

Kat

I'm so excite

rosebramblewolf

Anime encouraging the youth to have babies isn't a conspiracy theory, it's a real and public initiative.

David Fryauf

My wife and I have been enjoying the hell out of this Trinyvale campaign. Thrilling episodes recently, excellent job, Dracula Uncle

clerby

the floor i’m on in my dorm building is betty boop themed lol

DM Joe

I'm kinda surprised how defeatist the Triplets are about facing Strahdge*. Of course they shouldn't really expect to "win" these encounters, but I feel like immediately running isn't the "only" option. I think they're super underestimating the power of sunlight in their weapons and that holy symbol.

Kat !

yo Katception

TheArcaneAttorney

MASSIVE UNTAGGED SPOILERS FOR OG INTERVIEW WITH THE VAMPIRE HOLY SHIT GUYS WTF

clerby

my favorite part of jake and amir videos is seeing everyone in the background (caldwell is there a lot)

Kat

Wasn't Clara Bow an actress?

Kat

Something that's like 30-40 years old is beyond spoilers' statute of limitations, imho

Kat

Or is this a joke that I missed, in that case, apologies

Rafi

This is validating my decisions during my CoS run like sometimes you’re simply not built for that strahd encounter (my party disagreed)

Molly Gould

Salem’s Lot is a good spooky vampire book that really successfully cultivates that dreadful existential vampire vibe.

Susannah B.

I see the Lestat influence in your Strahd, Caldwell! Messy asshole vampires unite

rosebramblewolf

Yes, and Betty Boop was originally her poodle fursona apparently

Kat

That is buckwild

rosebramblewolf

I think it has to be, I wouldn't call the names of the actors in it "massive spoilers"

Kat

Also it's originally an Anne Rice novel sooooo 🤷🏼‍♀️

Ryan Higgins

"It hurts when I go like this" Made me spit my beer

Canadian Schubert the Mushroom 🍄

Caldwell's being too hard on himself. Strahd isn't built for this format, and he's doing incredible making it a Caldwell campaign.

Hannah Whaley

literally screamed when caldwell told murph and emily about IWTV. emily you’re going to LOVE it

Brant

omg caldwell watching interview all my dreams are coming true

Mila Janus

Deeply curious what Emily is reading

Maia

Murph, i also had a friend of the family that LOVED betty boop when I was a kid. I think she might of had like a huge tattoo of her, and definitely so many lunchboxes

Elizabeth Boskey

Omg I'm so old. Interview with A vampire was a book series by Anne Rice

Andrew

You guys should watch the new nosferatu

chlo!

the old collegehumor references make me remember watching old drawfee

King of the City Pigeons

You can actually kill Strahd without having to get him in his coffin. Misty Escape says that he becomes mist, but he cannot become mist in sunlight, which is produced by the sunsword. So kill him with the sunsword and he’s dead

Declane Gilhooley

I totally get the whole pain thing. Murph and using your stick to help you. I have literally collapsed at the end of paintball matches and needed to use my marker to help me walk

Zanna

elfshot is a reference to an old English medical text that described invisible projectiles shot by elves that caused "unexplained" pain

Benjamin P Parson Gomberg

I’m just at the beginning with Caldwell taking some thorns for this one, and I gotta say I disagree with Murph here. Murph frequently brings up in Dungeon Court the “DM wink”, the hint hint to give your player usually to indicate not to do something. But the DM wink can go either way, encouragement or discouragement. This seemed pretty clearly to be a DM wink that Caldwell was encouraging a player to stand up to Strahd with the new powers, and doing so would allow them to escape. It seemed perfectly clear as a the type of trope where the BBEG gets caught flat-footed, and though far from defeated, it’s shocking enough to give the heroes an escape without it being plot armor. Caldwell seemed to be saying here “hey I know you are level 4 and can’t actually fight Strahd head to head, so trust the tools because I’m not just going to curb-stomp you with Legendary Actions and end the campaign.” I get where Jens and Murph were coming from, but the enormous power differential here would make me more likely to trust the DM was planning something. If my DM throws has an adult dragon at the party at level 3 and gives us a few anti-dragon doohickies I’m way less worried than being like level 12 and having something crazy powerful attack.

Benjamin P Parson Gomberg

I totally agree. The attitude of “I will only engage when I’m level 10 and he’s in his house” seems to have a lack of trust in the encounter. They seem a bit fixated on needing to actually beat him if they fight, when this seemed signposted as possible to catch him off guard with the sunlight and make him overly cautious enough to back off for the moment. I get the PC fear in the moment, but I think this was a wrongful razzing of Caldwell.

Ray Matford

NADDPOD mentioning Smiling Friends is a perfect overlap of my obsessions.

Ray Matford

How funny and anticlimactic would it be if they just sort of killed him and skipped most of the story.

Ray Matford

That movie taught me two things about vampires. 1) they have huge mustaches, and 2) they have huge hogs.

King of the City Pigeons

They could totally kill him right now - I mean Caldwell would rolling for Strahd

xatlern

I feel like the antidote to seeing vampires as too sexy is to do the classic Emily Austin Powers move of watching a bunch of vampire media in reverse chronological order. Do some True Blood or Vampire Diaries then go into Buffy and then into the Lost Boys or Monster Squad all the way until the original Nosferatu and you gradually teach yourself that vampires are scary and nasty again

Eric Pierce

💯 when I first got into being a chef in fine dining I was right at 21 at got to participate in wine tastings and fell in love with reisling because of its alcohol juice flavor

Stephy R.

Does any one happen to know what book Emily is talking about?

Hashtaggles

Guy I hate to inform you anyone in nursing home unless they’re literally 100 years old might be too young to be a booper.

commas-and-ampersands

I obviously don't know for sure, but when she said "academic," my mind immediately went to The Historian by Elizabeth Kostova. It's a brick and very meditative - almost a travel journal with Dracula at times - but it was one of my fave books for a long time.

commas-and-ampersands

I know it's a bit, but fun fact, there is actually a strong through-line between Betty Boop and Disney's Snow White. Snow's final character design was loosely based on Betty Boop - chiefly her coloring and rounder face. Early on in development they tried making her blonde and a redhead before settling on the dark hair. Also there was a Betty Boop short were it was basically putting Betty in the Snow White role.

James Clark

Lol as a physical therapist the "it hurts when I go like this" and then doing the movement over and over again made me cackle. Literally such a weirdly universal human tendency. Also y'all need to talk to a DPT about recovery movements/handling little aches and pains. We can help you even if you don't have a major injury!

Drew Faber

YO my job serves La Colombe and that shit is lethal. I’m convinced it’s actually cold brew flavored four loko. It’s amazing

華偉 曾

when i was a boy, theres also a betty boop lady, every thing she owns have a betty head on it

Max Herzog

Literally watched the 1st Austin Powers last night, you make me very Thorny Mr Caldwell

Max Herzog

We all know that old person OBSESSED with Betty Boop. That crap was everywhere

MitchySlaps

I’ve never felt more seen than the convo about 1)hurting yourself at hockey 2) winning bar league championships now feels more like cosplay than actually winning something Also, they don’t give you your own damn trophy?!? We throw ours out months and months later after no one wants to hold onto it anymore

MitchySlaps

I work in nursing homes. The number of Betty boop tattoos I’ve seen is jarring.

Max Herzog

On both men and women too, right?

Adam!!!!!

i would love a whole mixed bag of just college humor stories

The Wizard Stream

Plugging the film Humanist Vampire Seeking Comsenting Su*cidal Person. Its not as bad as it sounds its a very sweet coming of age story.

Kellyd

Did we all have a family friend woman as a kid who was obsessed with a specific thing that was all over her house? Because same, Murph

Katie B.

It would be very funny if Emily is reading The Historian because I had been listening to the audiobook literal minutes before deciding I was a bit bored and wanted to listen to something else, and put on this short rest instead lol.

Kellyd

Siobhan just recommended The Historian on a recent episode so that would make sense!

chophouse

1. Congrats on the championship win Murph. 2. Devils or flyers?

Ziel R.

I feel like they should do a Betty Boop watch. Caldwell in particular would probably get a kick out of it. Especially if they did one of the Cab Calloway collab eps. Like Betty Boop was kind of cutting edge in terms of animation technology at the time. The company that did it used something like proto-rotoscoping to make some very fluid animations. And they referenced Dracula and specifically the Texas guy in this ep, and I have a little bit of Dracula/Castlevania lore for you. The events of the Dracula Novel take place in the Castlevania universe. The Texas guy, Quincey Morris, is the father of John Morris (who is the father of Johnathan Morris) and the whole Morris family line is like the US equivalent of the Beltmont clan.

Renee Wild

Riesling was also my gateway wine when I was in college!

Chef Julie B

Cackling- I’m on my 3rd cold brew of the day after teaching eight 6 year olds how to make pasta.

Sharktopus Reckoning

The ‘sode was so fun! I’m sorry Caldwell was thorny about it (baby) but I had a blast listening

Clay Gibbons

I had the same thought! Definitely good mixed bag material. In case they see this (or for anyone else interested) a bunch of the famous ones are available on youtube. The Snow White one (https://youtu.be/cKOSJ5AAwfc?si=D2TzV_rPlfwLkTeu) is really good, and so is Minnie the Moocher (https://youtu.be/qFhMuFEtIh4?si=SGEQ8HP42cjyOBC4). There’s also this one where she solos hell (https://youtu.be/fWlAmjhwxhc?si=6aEPTeokFZ0flItA) meaning she’s almost on par with Ryan Urphy

Andrea Quinn

100% I had a Betty Boop one and an Elvis one

Andrea Quinn

Anytime Dracula’s big ol’ mustache comes up, I have to share my favorite thing, which is that Stoker was IN LOVE with Walt Whitman and that Dracula’s physical description is likely (unconfirmed but look at that guy) inspired by WW. One of my favorite stories is about Stoker going to visit Walt in Camden and the actor Henry Irving just fully third-wheeling the whole thing.

Parma Jun

Mr. Boop feels like a natural overlap with this crowd but I am also afraid to invoke it

Lisa Plasencia

The show Interview With a Vampire is closely based on the book. And speaking of sexy vampires, Lestat is number one in my heart. I accidentally read the series out of order and read book two “Lestat” first. If you haven’t read the series, it’s a must.

Jess J

at 39, Riesling and Moscato are still my pref 😂 I’m a child 🤦🏻‍♀️

Francy

Lol I was also reading it too! We're all reading the same book.

Jake de Medeiros

I mean this constructively- I feel like Caldwell might be doing too much/putting too much pressure on himself! It’s a huge module, there’s no need to make additions to it, I think he could just run it as written and not have to feel so much self doubt after taking swings like this! Love the show ❤️‍🩹

Nic Q

Fighting Strahd at this point seems very out of character for Jens though. But Onyx and Nyack could have pulled Jens into the fight if they’d thrown caution to the wind and gone for it. The two of them are much more chaotic and it would be perfectly in character for them to choose fight as much as flight.

CommodoreBlue

When’s the next When Did Things Come Out, and when are you getting a guest for that?

CJ

For Caldwell in the event he reads this: do not beat yourself up about 'the way things went'. As a CoS DM I saw the tip of the hand towards the Sunsword / amulet, but the Triplets do what the Triplets do (and Murph, Emily and Jack do what they do too). On a related note: thank fuck they *didn't* go after Strahd / Strahj with two artefacts, Vasilka and Ezmerelda. RAW he gets misted in an aura of sunlight and he's dead. DEAD-dead. No save. No coffin. No monologue. No nothing.

Little Cheese Confettis

I was that 24 year old into wine lmao. My mom is a wine mom, my college didn’t party and I studied abroad with a lot of rich Europeans. So I somehow skipped beer and went straight to wine

Av

HOLY SHIT CALDWELL IM GLAD U HAVE SEEN IWTV IT IS THE BEST SHOW EVER

Nye-Low

All this injury talk is giving me PTSD 🤣 Murph needs to tread so carefully with his knees especially once he hits 40

cx

Surreal to learn that not everyone thinks all the time about Hitler being obsessed with Snow White the movie and watching it like every night

Mrs Threepwood

I really want them to watch What we do in the shadows (the show, not just the movie). It's very much triplets + vampires coded 😂

Bubble-gun 🔫💖

Guillermo del Toro’s “The Strain” has some super monstrous vampires!!

Fikon

Does anyone else want a mixed bag where they tell old college humor stories? It’s so interesting hearing them all recount those days, and seeing how they got here!

Basket_Chase

Freaking out that Interview with the Vampire has entered the chat. Can’t wait for S3!!! Caldwell becoming a Sam Reid stan was what I needed today hear

mushroom with glasses

totally !! honestly i always just love listening to them talk about whatever

Jessica Petra

My Aunt Gloria is OBSESSED with Betty Boop. Her entire place is full floor to ceiling with Betty Boop. I'm also from Jersey, so it would be wild if she's Murph's family friend.

Rin Carranza

Im 25, and I adore red wines. Hate white wines lol

Sophia J

iwtv mentioned!!! show of all time I'm so serious

Professor Pratt

27 and it was noveau beaujolais at a friend’s house whose roommate worked for a liquor distributor.

Professor Pratt

Me not totally opening my mouth super wide when Murph talked about molar fangs!

Violent Pixie

You guys mention interview with a vampire using the term la petite morte. If you look at Anne Rices books she wrote under a pseudonym, she’s REAL kinky, so that tracks

Kat

I'm very bad at identifying jokes in text, apologies

roomwithoutawindow

Check out Vampire: The Masquerade where there's all kinds of vampos from across media. Behold, flesh crafting vampires who turn dudes into chairs and sit in them.

Belligerant_Me

I don’t know if this is a direct reference, but the October Daye books series has magical arrows called “Elf Shot” that is the only thing the Fae are allowed to use on each other because of the law of Oberon making it illegal to kill other fae. It doesn’t kill them, but instead puts them to sleep for 100 years (holds them in place). So maybe there’s other lore as well where this idea of “elf shot” as a slowing or freezing weapon comes from.

Emily Bishop

ITWV mention went crazy. I can't believe Caldwell didn't mention Louis is played by Jacob Anderson - Grey Worm my kinggg

Elizabeth Gunn, sickly but cruel

I just read Dracula again and it absolutely vibrates with stalwart, teary eyed, masculine homoeroticism. I need a movie that captures THAT energy.

kaylee w

patiently waiting for a J&A breakdown of the Double Date series with Emily and Murph

Nina

iwtv mentioned on naddpod, how wonderful. caldwell is so right that they're so messy and that's the best part

Nicole Jordan

I’m actually taking a little class on vampires right now so it was funny to hear you guys talk about the old v.s. new vampire stories! Interview with the Vampire is what really changes the game by giving us a vampire POV which then shifts vampire stories to go from the monstrous, cut and dry totally evil to the sexy, existential one we know today. In Dracula, they defeat him essentially through paperwork haha. It’s been such a treat to listen to this campaign while I’m in the class!

Courtney Serafini

Probably late but if anyone is looking for an interesting take on vampires I recently read Thurst by Maria Yuszczuk where it's like they're all powerful but it's definately that hyper human, urge led behaviour that is their weakness.

David

Jake's visual jokes were sterling, augmented by Murph's scolding, but would have elicited no fewer yucks from this goof were the visual jokes voiced independently of being scolded

Tavitafish

Paperwork and basically sacrificing the best character in the whole book

OvrCaffWarlock

All this talk of vampires just makes me wanna hear y'all play a VTM game

Hugo Wull

My wife and I worked at a winery together during college summer breaks, so we used to be stocked up on Sauvignon blanc for the first half of the school year as youngin’s

Davis

Did anyone see the new Nosferatu? It’s basically a combination of vampires are evil/gross and vampires are horny AF

Josie

Re: horror vampires, Midnight Mass (show) is soooo good, one of my favorite vampire stories.

Lily Kaufman

I’m turning 22 in a few days and my roommates and I like to have wine Wednesday and we usually get a 4 liter jug of sangria or a box of Zinfandel and it will last like a month

Katie P.

The rotoscope animation combined with the song " St. James Infirmary" by Cab Calloway in the Betty Boop episode "Minnie the Moocher" gave me nightmares as a kid. The Highwaywan's song from Over the Garden Wall is an homage to that I only became a wine person at 28 when I realized some red wines don't have sulfates

Kyrulius

Is it metagaming if everyone at level 4 is like “I don’t want to fuck with Strahd right now”?

Kyrulius

But I gotta say, I’m loving the character change. Murph is more “let’s not fuck around” while Jake and Emily are kinda like “nah, let’s fuck around”

Cosmopunk

Betty Boop being a dog originally really explains the dog ears on Strahds bride now.

Nitzan Harel

Man, I’ve started having wine on holidays at 14. I always liked it.

Nitzan Harel

I mean, at 14 it was just like one (/one half) glass instead of four to six at Passover

Mo, stoked for Skaldova and about to run Strahd

So it's actually far more likely that Betty Boop was based off Josephine Baker, but bc she was a WoC she was never credited. It's pretty uncanny tho looking at some of her costumes; it bears mentioning that she was also hyper-sexualized.

Kat

Oooh yes I think I had heard that at some point ages ago - really unfortunate how WoC are mined for profit but never get the credit they deserve

Greg Lohman (tsarducci)

Strahds legendary movement ability would make it real hard to keep in sunlight when hes outdoors. Jens moves in, hits a couple times, strahd moves back out of sunlight and TPKs the party by dropping a fireball on them.

ashy elbows? you need some shea enrichener, son

My great grandmother had a similar horde of Betty Boop memorabilia and that made more sense to me because she was like around for the start of it, but her ascent to cultural icon status has always been a mystery to me

JetstreamSamBestWaifu

oh man the interview with the vampire series is like my favorite show!

Cortney Cline

Fuck... I am too big of a Vampire Chronicles nerd and listening to you all talk about Interview with the Vampire has given me psychic damage. I know this is a me problem, and you all did nothing wrong, but it still feels important to let you know I am in pain from you talking about things you obviously know little to nothing about.... That said, Caldwell- you have excellent taste and I would highly recommend reading/listening to the books if you can because knowing the source material makes the show even more impressive. And if you can't get into the books for whatever reason, the next best thing I've found is a series episodes of the Barely Bookish podcast. The newest host over at Three Black Halflings, Candace, has been chatting with the host of Barley Bookish about the book series and the tv series and Candace especially has some really great analysis and insight. The IWTV episodes so far are 118-132 and then 182 to the present and is ongoing.

Moonlit Ghost

My physical therapist once told me "PT is all about finding out exactly what hurts and what your body doesnt like, and doing exactly that until it doesnt hurt any more"

Nick Lerche

On Betty Boop's Porn Adjeacency: I mean just look at Drawn Together's depiction of their boop knockoff character. An old retired Sex symbol in black and white. In fact, the existence of Toot Braunstein probably shaped your opinion of Betty whether you watched it or not

Taylor Manes

i really love listening to these because of moments of vulnerability like caldwell had here. it’s nice to know that even professional podcast DMs sometimes finish a session feeling like they didn’t balance the encounter as well as they could have, or that things went off the rails in a way they had to scramble to work with. but also, this campaign absolutely rips, and it’s giving me lots of ideas for my strahd campaign. :-)