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Check out NADDPOD's Patreon exclusive after show! This week, we discuss the events of Skaldova Season 2 - Ep.2: The Order of the Compass and Crow

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alli

love seeing a short rest image and being immediately so confused. can’t wait to find out why thomas crapper is here (i reverse image searched)

Mortimer Lunch

Thank you for your service and now I HAVE to assume there’s a crapper joke which is just delightful

The one they call Barlo

Another great ep, Jake. Started in classic fashion of Tropl butchery. If that's something the players like Harvesting and Crafting Lite by Ryokos (not affiliated) served me well for a player at my table and added a fun mechanic to the game

DreamBardAdrift

I can't believe it. Even you guys are in on it. I cannot wait for next year, there's an immense cascade of connection incoming.

Akrilothian Gaming

So i have taken care of both rattlesnakes and spiders! You absolutely can put insects in soidera webs and its very entertaining to watch them wrap them up! And the "rattlesnake distraction" will not work they are pit vipers and actually sense body heat and will not strike at anything cold typically when we fed them frozen rats and mice at my old job we would have to heat them in the microwave to get them to eat them and they would often strike at us, the feeders, as we are a much more appropriate temperature tham the often over/under-heated mouse so unless you got a live mouse in your pocket PLEASE just back away

syzmon

welcome Thomas Crapper to the naddpod nightmareverse

Nick English

I came here to say the same thing! Always a joy to see a random image as the short rest thumb nail lol

Peregrine (edited)

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2026-09-28 04:00 From what I know about rattlesnakes, most bites happen when someone actually steps on one they didn’t see or something. Their prey is mostly just little rodents! They’re scared of you too! I think the most important thing is to just keep your eyes and ears open. Their lifestyle is quite slow since they spend a lot of time sitting in wait for prey (that means they probably don’t want to exert themselves unless they feel really threatened). Due to their slow metabolism they can live over 20 years! Unfortunately rattlesnakes have an undeserved bad reputation and have a history of being killed (often cruelly) in huge numbers in rattlesnake roundups :( which has lead to multiple US species becoming threatened/endangered… Did you know rattlesnake mothers have been observed to co-parent their young?! They are very cool and I love them
2026-09-25 06:40 From what I know about rattlesnakes, most bites happen when someone actually steps on one they didn’t see or something. Their prey is mostly just little rodents! They’re scared of you too! I think the most important thing is to just keep your eyes and ears open. Their lifestyle is quite slow since they spend a lot of time sitting in wait for prey (that means they probably don’t want to exert themselves unless they feel really threatened). Due to their slow metabolism they can live over 20 years! Unfortunately rattlesnakes have an undeserved bad reputation and have a history of being killed (often cruelly) in huge numbers in rattlesnake roundups :( which has lead to multiple US species becoming threatened/endangered… Did you know rattlesnake mothers have been observed to co-parent their young?! They are very cool and I love them (I’m not an expert)

From what I know about rattlesnakes, most bites happen when someone actually steps on one they didn’t see or something. Their prey is mostly just little rodents! They’re scared of you too! I think the most important thing is to just keep your eyes and ears open. Their lifestyle is quite slow since they spend a lot of time sitting in wait for prey (that means they probably don’t want to exert themselves unless they feel really threatened). Due to their slow metabolism they can live over 20 years! Unfortunately rattlesnakes have an undeserved bad reputation and have a history of being killed (often cruelly) in huge numbers in rattlesnake roundups :( which has lead to multiple US species becoming threatened/endangered… Did you know rattlesnake mothers have been observed to co-parent their young?! They are very cool and I love them (I’m not an expert)

Penpen

Corn kid is post pandemic by the way

Peregrine

Also Caldwell, I think giving offerings to spiders is a good idea. My qualification is I know some stuff about bugs

Scruggzi

A whole new generation will learn about the perils of capillary action via the combo of JNCOs and wet pavements. Teenage knees will be soggy once again. Nature is healing.

Crane

This episode was so satisfying! The previous name of the keep super cryptic, do yall think jake was hinting at another dragon existing?

St.Christopher Coming to Town

Snakes are VENOMOUS. They bite you and you die. Poisonous is when you bite it and you die like one of those delicious looking colorful frogs.

Hugo Wull

Haven’t listened yet, my guess was Rutherford B Hayes. This is so much better than expected!

rosebramblewolf

I'm going to think of William Shits as essentially the great-great-great-grandson of Sir Harry King from Discworld. Emily's right, you absolutely can get a good paycheck from that—and then sell most of it to specific industries. It's pure profit.

Gil

TIL how frogs work

Adam!!!!!

i am 100% positive this exact "would you wear jncos everyday" conversations have been had on this podcast before

eu

this is not the first time murph has called someone zaddy and it breaks me always

austinoxner

Thomas Crapper totally looks like a hype beast.

Bryce

Y’all can’t be disrespecting east coast dangerous animals! Here in sc we have cottonmouths, copperheads, rattlesnakes, coral snakes, black widows, bears, coyotes, snapping turtles, and alligators

drmimms

Thomas Crapper IS a zaddie 😅 and he DOES have kind eyes!

Blaize Gordon

Listening to this and laughing at the shitting yourself today bit and knowing that it was definitely recorded before the hyrox lady incident 🤣😂🤣😂🤣

Evander Oleander

If the German workers turned off the water to stop the Kapp Putsch then I think a dry toilet mafia is possible

Gregory Moskowitz

Corn kid was mid pandemic the first time i saw it i was in the hospital with one of the middle varients

Dylan C

They must have recorded this pre hyrox woman

Jedidiah Archer Smith

We’re talking a lot about public defecation, gang. What was going on in the 90s?

Cyrus

Listening to this as someone who lives in Florida is crazy. Murph, who lived in NY, being like the east coast won’t kill you. Florida has 4 kinds of rattle snakes and then there’s the cotton mouths. You don’t go near still water, there’s probably gators in there. There’s coyotes and panthers and so much other shit, southern east coast can and will getcha (I feel like tone seems mean, it isn’t meant to be :’) sorryyy)

Gregory Moskowitz

Fun fact those gasstation bones pills are fucking crazy. Whenever people get them tested they find insane ingredients because they are completely unregulated. I saw a youtube video that showed one that was just all the ed med ingredients mixed together and like 10x the max dosage of each one. Imagine boggie ODing on a 10x viagra

Josie Toney

So glad to finally know why there is a random old man on the thumbnail

Gazmain

Just throw a towel over the snake and run like hell and the left-brain/right-brain dichotomy has been largely de-bunked by modern neuroscience.

CommodoreBlue

Caldwell mentioning Hamnet reminds me how he watched it in the middle of Halloween is Grinch Night.

Infernal

There is a commercial of cats dancing like Backstreet Boy's already. I think it Meowmix?

Walker Thurman

There are lots of pretty dangerous water snakes actually, cottonmouths/water moccasins were the big concern when I grew up but there were also coral snakes occasionally. And I guess the 2 I can think of isn’t “lots” but if you’re by water there’s lots of places for land snakes to hide.

Cade Holdstock

As someone with a degree in neuroscience, the left brain vs right brain is not true. There's no distinct separation of logic and creativity

Walker Thurman

You can’t effectively put mosquito netting on curtain rods because there will be gaps the mosquitoes can go through. You gotta have it secured at each edge.

Walker Thurman

Yeah if you just leave them alone you’re probably fine. Running past them or coming near them is seen as a threat bc you are huge to them Also the WANT you to notice them and walk away, that’s what the rattle is for

Walker Thurman

I don’t know why I know this and I might be making it up but I think before the invention of toilet paper people DID wipe themselves, first with just wet hands and in some cultures with a sponge on a stick.

Walker Thurman

I guess Caldwell knowing the most about heraldry does make sense

BurtMcKraken

A bunch of liberal west coasters (sarcasm) talk about how dangerous their fauna is… WELL in the SOUF we got at least 40-50 FERAL HOGS threatening our homesteads!!!!

Clever Innuendo

I see the crew isn't aware of one of the deep internet clips of a guy gambling and losing when he tries to fart on his friends. "Go use the bathroom, SHITTER!"

Daniel

Jake failing to mention that the gregory brothers hosted a headgum podcast is kind of funny

Benjamin Korynta

About the two brain thing look up "Alien Hand Syndrome" crazy cool stuff

Abigail Harden

for a great study about what happens if you shit yourself today, check out the latest international HYROX competition 🤣🤣

henskate

There’s an orb weaver (I think) that lives inside the sideview mirror of my car. I often eat lunch in my car and she’s pretty frequently hanging out or doing repairs on her web while I’m eating. I’ve given her a fly or a beetle I’ve caught a couple of times. She’s super chill.

Fiver

When I was a kid I thought they were called pit vipers because they were the kind of poisonous snakes bad guys would put in, like, pit traps and stuff. Or maybe they lived in pits waiting for people to fall into. Luckily the real reason (the heat sensing pits on their heads) is similarly cool, so I wasn’t disappointed by the truth

Akrilothian Gaming

I also believed something similar lol but the truth is much cooler

Joshua Saldana

Rattlesnakes are ambush predators. So, they are actually fairly docile creatures, especially when encountering larger creatures. If you’re too big to be food, they will only rattle/strike if they feel threatened. Otherwise they will likely hide. If you encounter one, running at/past them is probably the worst thing you could do; other than walking up to it and stepping on it. The best way to avoid them is just that - avoidance. If you encounter one, either take a very wide berth or wait for them to move on. If the peanut gland in our head activates and you don’t have a weapon and/or you feel you have no choice but to fight, the safest thing is to run (they are highly unlikely to chase you) or to kill them - a pincer (one person distracts by getting close enough to be a threat but far enough to be relatively safe while the other person ambushes them from behind with something sharp and behead them). But don’t get near the head because believe it or not, it’s still possible for them to bite for a short time after. End of the day, vigilance and staying out of foliage and debris. Predators (like birds) love a snake snack. So if the snake is out in the open, they either have a death wish or they’re trying to get somewhere. If you see something that looks like a gopher hole, avoid it because that’s their hidey hole.

Spencer Hester

Shut up you goofy nerd! How dare you bring facts and logic

C.J. Smith

You are not alone!! I also thought this was the reason they were called pit vipers. Most of my knowledge of snakes as a kid came from Indiana Jones, so I assumed traps were their natural habitats :p

C.J. Smith

A sponge soaked in vinegar was a common cleaning tool in public baths in Rome. And by common, I also mean communal

William Blankenship

We have black widows on the east coast and brown recluses lol. I live in Alabama and we also have 6 venomous snakes including multiple kinds of rattlesnakes. I grew up in a very rural area so cotton mouths copper heads and rattlesnakes were pretty common.

clerby

am i too gen z? jncos are just baggy jeans. what happened in the 90s? also were people shitting themselves in school?

William Blankenship

Yeah growing up in Alabama I have come across a few I DEFINITELY prefer them over copper heads because in leaves they are so much harder to see and are so quiet. They also pack such a punch my friend in college was hospitalized for a few days from a bite and she was on crutches for weeks after. That being said rattlesnakes are terrifying but don’t deserve to be hunted ( nor other snakes) It’s very polite of them to let me know where to not step. Only bad experience I have had was in an old barn and we couldn’t tell where the noise was coming from so I had a panicked minute turning in circles before just hoping out the closest window lol.

Hammy

Thomas Crapper looks like he could be the bassist of an aging indie band. If he showed up on stage with Modest Mouse I wouldn't bat an eye.

Matt D

Friendly notice that the bicameral mind is widely rejected pseudoscience

Leomund's Tiny Nut

Certainly we are in the time of least self-shitting... but what have we lost? Emily mentioned that she would communicate with her neighbours and friends more if she shit herself... what are we doing?

Ash X

We have to respect any creature that sets strong boundaries by shaking it's butt.

Zeon Liberation

They did just (re)discover that the brain is basically two organs.

Hale

Thomas Crapper is tasteful funeral jnco jeans?

Little Cheese Confettis

Caldwell sent me down a rabbit hole with the bicameral mind theory. From what I can gather (and yall I’m NOT an academic please correct me if I’m wrong) this theory, originally published by Julian Jaynes in the 70s, really only makes sense if you also agree with Jaynes narrow definition of consciousness - that consciousness is not biological but in fact cultural, as in society encourages self-awareness and introspection. I personally think there’s a lot more to consciousness than that! But it was a fun rabbit hole

Axle

Am I crazy or have they had that conversation about Jnkos before?

Abigail Agnew

Thank you to everyone offering good rattlesnake advice in the comments.

Hammy

I think there was a surprise round that was extremely similar

Walker Thurman

“Communal asshole sponge” is a three-word horror story

Renee Wild

So I’m writing a book, the first draft only, entirely by hand. I started it in college because I could bring an extra notebook to classes and write my book on the side. I still do it because I think my words do flow differently when I’m writing by hand, and I feel more connected to it in a weird way

jbyrd

Between the surprise round about shitting your self for easy flight experiences and this ep so much time has been spent on shitting yourself

uudd

Caldwell I talk about the two brain thing all the time, the theory is also the piece of the brain connected was a later development in human evolution

Little Cheese Confettis

Also even if you do agree with Jaynes definition of consciousness there are still many ways you could disagree with his bicameral mind theory - for instance there’s a lot of focus on the people living through the Bronze Age collapse but what about everywhere else???

Annie Dillon

the whole bathroom conversation reminded me very much of a good musical, urinetown

Nick_Nack_Patty_Whack

Someone needs to make an AI based on Caldwell. If you have the same as Caldwellgpt, you can say you “Cald” it.

jaxolotl

dont forget brown recluses (my house is infested with them 🙃)

Professor Pratt

Aren’t you kids cute. It’s called a rough draft.

Professor Pratt

High Potential is excellent. She has a Sherlock quality to her that I love.

Savannah

Whenever the topic of “what superpower would you want” comes up, I’ve always said I would want the ability to communicate with animals, specifically bugs so I could talk to the bugs in my house and set them up in a corner so they leave my stuff alone!! I would be a great roommate to them if they would just stay there!

asta

the "gods voice" is #itcomplicatto, but tl;dr left side, above ur left ear

Luke

Bicameral mind mentioned!!! 🙌

Patty Crimmins

Jake, didn't you guys discuss rolling checks like perception and insight behind the DM screen? That way the players can't accidentally metagame. Not that you guys will, but whatever.

Stefan UrKILL (Figgy)

My household ADORES spiders. We have one nearly at all times hiding in the front gate, where there’s a nice little nook for building webs and hiding from the heat during the day. We always call them “the Doorman.” It’s bittersweet because when they get too big, they’ll go away and move somewhere else. But they always leave behind that last big molt as a souvenir of our time together. My favorite Doorman built the most magnificent web that looked like a cathedral, we never took down that web after she passed, the new Doormen have just built around and on top of it.

Professor Pratt

I just got reservations for Character Breakfast at Compass and Crow. I hope I get to sit near John Crapper.

Dimitri

Chevron as the name of the apothecary in the bog

Benjamin P Parson Gomberg

And further north in MA we have moose. I’d much rather see a rattlesnake in the path than a moose. The coyotes here have also bred with both wolves and dogs, so are much bigger than the Western ones (about the size of a German shepherd) and hunt in large packs.

Shirley Hemple

I'm Australian and I don't know if it applies to rattlesnakes but I was always taught to walk heavily if you're worried there are snakes around. They are very sensitive to vibration in the ground and will generally move away.

Samuel Gray

Love a garbled almost-correct explanation of a complicated concept by Caldwell. It’s like a reflection of my own mind

Cosmo Reynolds

You guys really dedicate a lot of your problem solving skills to dealing with shitting yourselves, are y'all good?

Davis

It sounds like Murph maybe just didn’t go outside much before he went to the west coast

Davis

I think Murph was just an indoor kid, because “the East Coast doesn’t have killer animals” is a wild take

Noah Mercury

It'd have to be a pretty fast roundhouse kick 🤔

Blue Bee

The JNCOs forever vs 1 random shit a month thing means there's always a 1 in 3 chance it happens while you're asleep too, that has to enter into the calculus

Hipster

The houses in my childhood neighborhood all had closets under the stairs and one of my neighborhood friends was allowed to use the closet as a base and I was so jealous cause my house’s closet was full of so much junk.

October Jones

Guys. Come on. “One Big Bog”. It’s right there.

Mortimer Lunch

Love Murph going in contradictory about the bicameral mind then accidentally explaining how the bible got written

ChefMakino

Growing up in rural Nevada, we’d make bases by digging holes and covering them with tarps. And eventually we’d have to abandon it when it was taken over by scorpions. So Emily’s tree story brought back memories.

Grass

Have yall ever….used a quill 🪶😏

Grass

Emily your thoughts on communication through letters is so interesting and I haven’t stopped thinking about it

Ken

I've lived in Ohio and Kentucky (which isn't necessarily east coast proper) and they have bobcats and mountain lions too.

Kat Sokol

There are absolutely black widows on the east coast lol. And I think they forgot that the southern east coast exists because oh boy are there so many animals that can kill you

Ominous_Ellipsis

Unfortunately, Meow Mix already has a commercial where they have cats dancing and singing like Backstreet Boys. Also, mentioning the kingfisher quill reminded me of one of my favorite (extravagant) paintings by Albert Beirstadt called Mountain Brook. It is very beautiful but also has just the tiniest kingfisher in the middle and it's very cute :)

Alexander Powers

I write letters by hand to my grandmother and find that I put more thought into my words because I have more time to sit and think about what I'm saying as I write. It might be a little more self-censored (I'm really not sure), but I think the careful consideration more than makes up for it. I'd definitely recommend trying writing letters to people by hand, it's for sure a different headspace than writing an email or typing out a text.

Maiu

...we have rattlesnakes in Massachusetts. Will you see them? Probably not.

Tayci Stallings

Black widows are the same way. They like dark places cause they're just trying to raise their babies and be left alone.

ThacoIsWacko

If I may; AI may be for cats dancing to Backstreet boys, BUT, it's also for "Mr Fluffy Nooo".

JME

I'm a traffic engineer, so I just think as chevrons as the thing you use to sign a sharp turn, now I'm trying to figure out what that means with a logo 🤔

riddle me grinch

The number of times in naddpod history that murph brings up shitting himself makes me... concerned? Was this event in his past more traumatic then he lets on? Is he looking for validation that it's ok?? Am I psychoanalyzing a random podcast creator with no context or authority?

UndecipheredStones

The "shit out of the tower" room is not called a garderobe because you'd be shitting your pants otherwise, lmao. Give medieval people more credit. A "clothing protector" is a closet; it's a euphemism, exactly like "water closet", and a lot like "bathroom" or "restroom". (Even "toilet" is a euphemism; it used to be a term for personal grooming in general.)

The No. 2 Show

And just like that I'm caught up to current after like two years of binging this show and the hundreds of episodes that precede this one. Absolute chef's kiss and I can't wait to experience the cutting edge of NADDPOD with everyone else. Now to start binging Dungeons and Daddies...

AnonymousDM

Emily!! High Potential sux, watch HPI the french show it’s based on!!! It’s way better and subtitles not too bad!!

Isaiah Simpson

sad to see that the spider lobbyists got to them...

Rebecca Stanek

The garde-robe actually protected the furs of the nobles. They would hang them in the 'clothing protector' and the stench wafting up from the crap below would keep moths and other vermin from infesting their furs. Yes, the rich stank even then...

Sam

There was a surprise round question where they got some super power but they could only ever wear jncos

thiswayjose

HIGH POTENTIAL IS LEGITIMATELY A FUN TIME

Anna Blum

I love how many people have already put good information on snakes here! One thing: walking really hard / stomping doesn't work super well. As long as you see the snake and stay away from it, there's basically no risk. If you have to go past it ot past shrubby places, through high grass etc where you suspect snakes: bring a long stick! Rustle around with it from a safe distance before going through and you'll scare away any snakes that are chilling there, without getting bit! Big snake nerd here 😅🐍

tautcarabiner

Just ignore the snakes, they don't want anything to do with you either.

Tavitafish

Naddpod, my favorite sociology, biology and anthropology podcast

Benjamin Kessel

I need you all to know that you've created one of the best, warmest, funniest, most wholesome episodes ever with skaldova ep 2.2. thank you and fantastic work

Dreampie

My good friend is a direct descendant of Crapper!

Alesha S.

A little late but I love High Potential and I saw a frog today.

Nick Lerche

I do the same exact thing lol

Roy Prishkulnik

Yeah I watched a video about that hypothesis a couple weeks ago and I was always returning to that point

Matt L

OMG the bicameral mind theory gets mentioned!!!!

Jenn

Fountain pens are actually awesome for art! If you're getting ink everywhere, I'm guessing you're actually using a dip pen, which isn't the same and is much more of a pain in the ass, lol. But yeah, fountain pens rock! And they're gorgeous. And they don't take up a lot of space, which is helpful for those of us who hoard our collections. 😂

Sce7tm

The whole William Shits and the shits family kinda reminds me of Harry King from Discworld. "The King of the golden river, taking the piss since 1961."

Big Dolphin Naturals

Fuck man, the bicameral mind tangent is the trippiest conversation this podcast has ever had.

Big Dolphin Naturals

Once again Caldwell's proving to be my spirit animal. Watching old Jib Jab videos with my dad as he poisoned my young mind lmao. What a reference Hugh.

Fox

NOBODY tell them that there are both black widows and rattlesnakes on the east coast! And also yeah brown recluse spiders, copperheads, and cottonmouths are all very venomous and live over here too

Kaidan C

This base based chat has got me wondering if Jake and Murph remember the box fort sketch they did with Jeff Rubin

Zaq Putnam

The NADDPOD Duality of going from talking about shitting one's self and then talking about the god side of one's brain and the morality of man.

Kayla Dreyfuss

Noteworthy quote from Thomas Crappers Wikipedia page "Crapper held nine patents, three of them for water closet improvements such as the floating ballcock."