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Short Rest: C3 Ep. 43: Blood and Wine (Patreon)

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2023-09-08 17:45:43
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Check out NADDPod's Patreon exclusive after show! This week, we discuss the events of C3 Ep. 43: Blood and Wine.

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Dakota Copeland

Some homebrew poison ideas I've used: -Utilize the exhaustion mechanic (save each round until the poison is done, x-number of rounds, or the character dies from gaining levels of exhaustion). -poisons that don't begin to affect the character until x-number of hours after ingestion or infection. -poisons that get worse the longer they go untreated. -poisons that permanently (or semi-permanently) affect balance, health, or strength (reduce dex/str/con scores), possibly killing the character eventually. I also created a whole document/ruleset for harvesting ingredients and creating potions/poisons that I'd be happy to share.

Liu

Feel like poisoner would be a sick ranger subclass

Lorelei and Kyra Newly Weds

I've already sent you guys a cease and desist as the embodiment of Red Herring. The Red Herring character from a Pup named Scooby doo

Xanian Jamfalcon

For cool poison stuff, check out Spheres 5e's Alchemy Sphere!

Meletios

I’m having an anxiety & panic ridden no-good day, thank you for uploading Naddpod, I need to think about fire giants and talking frogs for a little bit 💚🩵🖤

Lia

We had a brown mantis near our house once, went out the back door and watched one land near the spider nest under the deck, land and punch a spider square in the face, and proceed to drag it away. Same species landed out front that summer, yoinked a grub from the ground, ans had a full boxing match with said grub.

Jay3001

I have a corn snake named Margarine and she’s the cutest! She’s bright yellow- a butter morph. My new goal is to get y’all a photo of her somehow. Either at the nyc live show or sending one as a postcard to the P.O. Box🤔

joel

Might wanna slap a light arachnophobia warning on this one. Some mild squirming on this end. But damn it if Jake can be a brave boy so can I

Adam Scull

They are actually sand fleas cauldwell. Come to any Florida beach lol. And murph. Statistically speaking people will swallow 24 spiders in their life time. And as for the poison. What if you’re a monk. Stun them. Then poison them. Would that even be feasible?

Canid Duality

Caldwell with the Neversoft logo call back. Too bad Activision sucks and merged them with Infinity Ward because almost everybody left that studio to make Respawn with EA.

Canid Duality

Wait is Emily actually the trickster god Anansi (depicted as a spider)?

Alex Willging

So the film Emily mentioned about the eye getting sliced? I think it's Un Chien Andalou, a surrealist film by Luis Bunuel and Salvador Dali. Still feels like something Jodorowsky would have done!

Nick Lerche

I was thinking it as they were discussing and then Caldwell's deep pull

Saoirse

Every animal is a cutie confirmed

faizaan723

Haven’t listened to the ep yet, but that title has got to be a partial Witcher reference I’m sure of it

Hashtaggles

Would the knife eye be the anti-watcher like (the cult of goliaths that worshipped the watcher that bev goofed) ?

Deirdre

I have had a connection with a jumping spider. I swear this teeny tiny creature was looking at me like it knew I was another attentive thing. It hung out on my hand for several minutes and even left and came back to my hand at one point. Some spiders are startlingly intelligent and these ones have eyes capable of seeing the moon in the sky. Spiders are beautiful indeed

V1KT0R

For the Poison Problem, I'd really recommend PF2E. Most Poison in that system is pretty cool, and does more than just damage.

fabrice ostiguy

In dnd 3/3.5 poison affect the stats like dex and constitution. The effect is like a number of D6 substracs for a time so like purple worm poison is a first check for 3d6 and 1hour later in the game another check and another 3d6 so if the stat go to 0 you die

tacticalgrandma

I’m trying to do a workable poisoner build too and one thing I’m considering is actually Way of Mercy Monk—at level 6 you can poison for a round at the cost of 1 ki point. Still doesn’t do anything about how many creatures are resistant, but does mean you don’t have to spend hundreds of gold and all your downtime.

Eric Keller

I see the opportunity for a spin-off one shot. A opposite of Hot Boy Summer featuring Darrius or however it's spelled. Him and his old man friends fighting against the youth. Fighting a Children of the Corn.....Children of the Hedge .

Henrique Scott

Jake, saw you crushing some pickleball today. Keep that hustle up

Randy

Could Cali had changed to a summer Eladrin to resist the heat?

Most_average_justin

Is anyone else shocked that Calder hasn't bent the knee to Jaina yet?

Francisco Hernandez

The knife through the eye is the symbol for paladin Oath of the Watchers in the dnd books i think! Just to avoid anyone else pulling up potentially scarring google images

Josh

Caldwells joke of “because hes big and blue” was so funny and so glossed over

Gabriel Graywood

The movie Emily was remembering was Un Chien Andalou, by Luis Bunuel and Salvador Dali

AnnonymusPotumus

I know the Grim Hollow supplement has a pretty good poisoner subclass.

Tara Capel

Murph wouldn’t objectify the orange top hat fairy, but would be horny for a spider 👀

Penpen

I literally just relistened to the DK island episodes that yall did, and its so funny having that callback in this short rest to the Reptile Super show that you guys talked about so much in those short rests

Luke Knecht

For Emily on her poisoner idea, the Blood Hunter class made by Matt Mercer has a Mutagen Craft subclass. I've been trying to do the same thing and this class does the best in my opinion

Nexacon

I think the symbolism of the daggers in the eyes probably goes all the way back to Oedipus Rex and it’s honestly baller as hell

Cheese of the Lake

Can you do a mixed bag where you all sit down for some afternoon tea and just have a chat with each other? It would be enjoyable to just listen to y’all’s conversations about whatever tangents you go down

Moonlit Ghost

I basically rent my parents basement and I've told everyone "I have a deal with the spiders. The rugged area and the surrounding furniture is my space, they can have the rest of the basement" and honestly for the most part they leave me alone. Evey so often I'll even feed then by swatting the fliers that wind up down there with us

Greg Jovi

I believe this is already a show and it's called Not Another D&D Podcast lmao

Mary Colligan

I live in a spider house too. My house looks haunted by the amount of spider webs and even in my classroom, we don’t kill spiders. That’s backfired a bit because we’ve had baby spiders dropping from the ceiling all day and my kids are not as cool with spiders as me.

Cain Catto

My banana ball python says hello!! his name is jericho and he is a very silly man!!

Cain Catto

i have a pet jumping spider, they’re amazing pets!! they’re incredibly intelligent for such small and short-lived beings. they’re delightful to watch interact with their environment. this one’s name is jackie and one of my favorite things to watch is the way he drinks—he scoops water droplets i mist onto the side of his enclosure together with his front legs into one bigger drop, then slurps it up. afterwards he’ll bring each little foot to his mouth individually to dry it off.

Cain Catto

oh and a note to emily and jake—i have two leopard geckos named nyack and figueroth!!

BoredLibrarian

I'm going to stick up for our West Coast reptiles and say that at least our venomous snakes clearly warn you that they're there. When I lived on the East Coast I nearly stepped onto copperheads multiple times, quiet snakes are way scarier than rattlesnakes.

Deirdre

that sounds super cute. maybe it's just the eyes but they seem very aware and curious for something so unlike what we expect sentient creatures to look like. very intriguing. stay well lil jackie

Linnea Patterson

For your Madison show tomorrow- Ha Long Bay is delicious for lunch or dinner!!! (And close to the venue)

Vivi

No wonder my court cases never get picked, Jake is scared of me ;-; /joking

Heidi Nehls

I heard it said once that Nature is harsh but it isn’t cruel, cruel implies intention. ALSO, I suggest listening to the 9/30/22 ep of This American Life to hear why we’re all wrong about Black Widow spiders.

Tim

If you’re looking for poison-related stuff, may I suggest the Tome of Heroes from Kobold Press? It’s not a class, it’s a feat called Hedgecraft, but there’s a list of various fantasy plants and what they do also listed in the book (pg. 185 for the feat, pg 262 to learn about the plants). Happy hunting!

Paul Westmore

The way I have homebrewed poisons that are ingested as opposed to the types that are dipped on weapons, is that the poison effectively does Bestow Curse (https://roll20.net/compendium/dnd5e/Bestow%20Curse#content) Then I just change that wisdom saving throw to a Con saving throw and set the DC to the proficiency of the brewer... so the poison doesn't do more when made by someone more talented, but is instead more difficult to resist. And then just treat the condition exactly like they are cursed, and choose one of the options for the curse as the poison effect. And then I have them roll their full hit dice each night they remain poisoned, and in the morning after a long rest, they have HP equal to what they rolled to start the day. Never had one that really was a threat to outright kill the drinker though. Then I allow a remove curse, greater restoration, and any healing spell of 6th level or higher to cleanse the poison affect, I have also done one that just lasted 1d4+3 days.

foster the boneless duck

i can't believe the reptile show story has been cut short i need to hear it once more!!

Jaden Saied

I would absolutely buy a bottle of red herring wine if y’all made it

KaptainSigyl

I am ride-or-die for almost every bug. I love bugs. They're the absolute coolest

Bulbarat

Y'all are forgetting you can coat your weapons in D&D and I'd say a vial would probably be worth about 5 dips, maybe more if they have a bigger one or smaller weapon. I kinda wanna make a homebrew class for this now. Or rogue subclass

Kate Davis

Can anyone help me find the RSS feed for Short Rest? I have failed many intelligence checks on this one because every help page (even the Patreon support ones) describe a layout that is different than what I'm seeing....

Rikku Collins

The symbol of gruumsh is called the unwinking eye and it is very, very similar. No sword, but it is a bleeding eye.

Eric Bouchey

Aren't there some poison mechanics that act like something conditional like exhaustion? Disadvantage on checks and such until restoration or long rest

Ted Orbach

Spiders are fucking adorable y'all

Rai

Oh my god no joke I just saw a spider with green eyes in my backyard. She was beautiful. And fast… 🥲

Meapyboy1234567

my sister would extremely severely disagree with you.

Bat-Fran

Didn't Brennan hack the mechanics for crown of candy? Surely poison came into play.... like didn't the water blade instantly mean Lou was poisoned but because he succeeded the con save he was able to get help? I can't remember but I feel like he just rewrote mechanics....

Pearl of a Girl Nursery

“What’s the animal that’s tried the hardest to fuck you?” -Emily Axford, 2023

Deadeye Cybin

If I remember correctly, it was three constitution saving throws in a row. Damage (save for half), Paralysis (save for only throat closing/silence instead of entire body), Posioned condition (save to negate). It was INTENSE.

Deadeye Cybin

Yes, in 5e the first level of Exhaustion is disadvantage on ability checks, while the Posioned condition is disadvantage on ability checks AND attack rolls.

Deadeye Cybin

True. But to be fair, copperheads typically aren't very aggressive. It seems like some west coast venomous snakes have much more of a "come at me, bro!" attitude.

Bat-Fran

Clearly it's time to rewatch Crown of Candy 😂 but yeah, he made it difficult to save but possible cause he was a beast for constitution 😂

Deadeye Cybin

Are you on a desktop or mobile? I know that on mobile, if you go to the main NADDPOD page within the Patreon app, there's a triple button in the top right hand corner that creates a dropdown menu with "get RSS audio link" as an option. But you have to make sure you're on the main NADDPOD page, not the overall Patreon landing page and not any specific episode or Short Rest.

Goodspot

Nice catch caldwell. The tony hawk symbol you're talking about is neversoft and the 'o' is a stabbed eye. Also jake needs to look at a silk moth. They are like teddy bears

Kyle smith

Why did Emily lie about the Mouser roll? She got a 33 from a 1d20+12? Did she neglect to mention a spent bardic or did Murph edit out a guidance or what?

Grrafe

She probably just messed up calculating the roll. It happens to the best of us. I imagine she mightve gotten a 19 on the die and miscounted and added 2 to the roll.

Anna Freitas

CHECK YOUR CREVICES for ticks and mind-controlling bugs

catchTwentythree

Murph I hate to say this but your parents were for sure wrong. New Jersey has black widows, rattlesnakes, copperheads, brown recluses... there was definitely a lot of stuff in the woods that could mess you up.

AlbireoRising

Not to mention West Coast ticks carry fewer diseases than East Coast ticks do!

Kaitlyn Orton

Heads up: east coast ticks = Lyme disease. West coast ticks = Rocky Mountain fever. California = doesn’t have ticks

J. Gro

Crustaceans are bugs, bugs are icky. I respect spiders and their nobel work/function in the food chain, but if I see them inside, I can't handle the thought of where they are if I let them go. Outside, we are playing for the same team. I am pro pollinators, but even butterflies aren't cute up close.

Fxd Gear Queer

He always drops these quick little gems

Fxd Gear Queer

Emily once again stone cold guessing a major plot thing. Murph must've been puckering 😅

j

wife worm, gf spider