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We watched this episode of Knight of the Seven Kingdoms on HBO Max.

This is a watch along so you do need to bring your own copy of the episode to see it, there is no PIP or show audio. There is a visual cue off the top, a countdown to start and a timer to help you sync up.

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Morgan Bridgland

Maekar is fourth in line, not next in line, but you can see the moment his mace smashes into the back of Baelor's helm. I still cried watching the episode.

Angelique

Just between saying "I yield" and Duncan dragging Aerion so that everyone can hear he withdraws the accusation. And is Maekar really fourth in line at that time? Valar, Matarys (?), Aerys, Rhaegel, Aelor (?)... So yeah, 4th of 6th in line ;-)

Morgan Bridgland

Yeah he’s multiple people down the line so really there’s no incentive to intentionally take his brother out, especially in front of a crown and be considered a kinslayer. This was probably my favourite episode throughout the entire ASOIAF series, even though we lost Baelor.

Paul T Hewes

Say what you might about Maekar, but he loved his brother. He was not looking to step over him. Baelor had two sons, and there are two brothers older than Maekar.

ShanB

😂😂 Steven continuously ripping on Ser Duncan in the post discussion! It's true though he got destroyed before the battle started. I'm shook. The armor guy really was the mvp of this episode for me. He did tell him that metal would protect him when it came to it.

ExArchyy

Well I'm pretty sure everyone will remember that little girl birthday with all that has happened in that tournament

Cloud

Just a couple thoughts after watching / listening to your post discussion! His armor saved his life repeatedly. Yeah it didn't make him invincible - but all those stabs would have been MUCH deeper if his armor hadn't held up. If his shield hadn't taken that lance, it would have gone straight through him / out the back. Pate MVP! I think Duncan getting his ass kicked is very realistic. He's a commoner who was half-trained by a drunken hedge knight. Everyone else has been properly trained, has tourney/combat experience, and is really well equipped. I don't think it could have gone any other way. And yes - sadly the helmet was the only thing keeping Baelor's skull in place. I'm sure he was dead either way though =(

nikkistevenreact

I love Dunk. I was just stating the facts that he got his ass licked in that fight.

nikkistevenreact

They didn’t really show us much of Maekar in the show so no way to know any of his intentions

nikkistevenreact

If you’re in a fight like that, would you really be called a Kingslayer? No one would even really know who killed who.

Paul T Hewes

i imagine they will clear a lot of it up in the final episode. Maekar, in the novellas, is a harsh man. Notice in the episode that once it looked like his son was in mortal danger, Maekar lost his cool and nearly fought his way through his brother and the Laughing Storm. At the end of the battle, Dunk has spared one of his sons and gained the undying loyalty of another.

Jacob Livingston

It’s a fast shot but it does show maekar swing his Morningstar and hit baelor in the back of the head. They didn’t actually want to kill each other. And fun fact baelor didn’t bring his own armor to the tournament, he had to wear his son valarrs’ armor (we saw valarr compete in jousting on the first day of the tournament) and the armor didn’t fit baelor correctly, it was hard for him to slide helmet up in ep 4 and that’s partially why the armor didn’t protect him as well as his would have bc it wasn’t fitted for him.

ShanB

100%!

Jacob Livingston

So maekar is still way down the line. Baelor son valarr is currently next in line now.

Jacob Livingston

HBO specifically game of thrones hits a home run on every casting. The fact dunk was a rugby player and egg hadn’t acted before is insane. And they’re both absolutely knocking it out of the park.

ZitherManifesto

As Dunk being a knight, like he was knighted, no one knows for sure. It's hinted in the books he wasn't. But Maeker isnt next in line he is bit down there. If heared you could hear Maeker yell "My Boy!" He was going after Dunk to save his son. Which he know his own son is a problem but still his Child. And him trying to be his sons protecter is when he hit Baolar in the back of the head.

Lyons

Imo they showed enough of Maekar to get a good vibe on him.. his sons where missing, he was angry and frustrated.. then when Aerion wanted to be a coward he questioned his honor, was mad at him, called him an idiot.. then as a father stepped up to protect him in the trial.. I feel like the show actually showed a lot of Maekars character if you was paying attention, probably be more obvious on a rewatch

nikkistevenreact

None of that shows anything to me about the relationship with his brother. I get to watch the episodes multiple times because of editing and I never caught that. And it may not seem like it cause things get missed, which is very common on a first watch, we are always paying attention when we watch our shows. And if someone does have knowledge of the source material, you may not think about it but it gives a ton of extra info about these relationships.

Lyons

I read the books somewhere in between the season 7 and 8 of game of thrones😂 the source material basically means nothing to me i cant remember much at all.. only the vibe of the books and dunc and eggs relationship.. I forgot who maekar was.. i genuinely feel like in the first 4 episodes they made him out to be reasonable given the circumstances, especially with how he treated Aerion last episode🤷🏻‍♂️

Mister Lou

Such a good Rocky-ish episode!

Angelique

That's a good point. But in this fight, I think Maekar was the only one in "Team Aerion" who had a mace AND could hit the heir to the throne. Daeron was on the ground (just like he told Dunk he would ^^), Aerion was fighting Dunk, Stephon was fighting Raymun and the kingsguard are sworned to protect the royal family so they couldn't have fought Baelor. So, in this particular fight, it is obvious who killed Baelor ;-) You are also totally right. You can't know enough about Maekar to know if he did it willingly or not. Even if you really pay attention to each interaction between the brothers during the episodes. I think book readers tend to see more of the details of an actor performance (or a director's choice) and forget how they would see the same scene without knowing what happens next. Keep doing what to do, I enjoy your reactions a lot (even if you hate Maekar right now, who is probably one of my favorite Targaryen ^^)