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The history (and present) of Fallout New Vegas (Patreon)

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2024-04-23 07:01:01
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2026-06

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Amazon's Fallout TV series inspired us (and countless others) to revisit our favorite wasteland. In this episode of The Resties, Frushtick recounts the oddball path the franchise took from its early days as a CRPG to the lightning-fast production of New Vegas at Obsidian Entertainment. Then, Frush and Plante talk about playing this "ahead of its time" video game over a decade after its release.

In the back half, Plante previews Lorelei and the Laser Eyes. The new puzzle/adventure game from Simogo has the potential to be one of the year's buzziest indies.

Games discussed:

Here's a link to the full Fallout series on Steam!

Fallout

Fallout 2

Fallout Tactics

Fallout 3

Fallout New Vegas

Fallout 4

Lorelei and the Laser Eyes

The first page of Plante's Lorelei notebook

The Japanese learning app Plante mentioned

Nativshark. From Plante: There's a cottage industry of YouTubers claiming anybody can learn Japanese in a year. This video, explaining the challenges that reveal themselves while learning Japanese across seven years, convinced me to give Nativshark a try. I'm so glad I did! If you're curious about the Japanese language, this is the best "low-friction" tool for learning and studying grammar, vocab, and kanji in one place.

We also recommend

10 years of retro game history!

The time Plante got stuck in an elevator in Fallout 4

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The Knuckle TV show streams on Paramount+ this weekend, and y'all, it's batshit in the best ways

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Luke

I just installed the A Tale Of Two Wastelands mod on my Steam Deck to play through Fallout 3 and New Vegas back to back, I'm loving it so far! Can someone let me know if the New Vegas discussion is spoiler-y for the quests in that game? Totally understand if it is, that game is old enough that open discussion is fair game

Mike Corris

I've never played FNV. This is going to get me hooked when I'm waist deep in Botany Manor isn't it? 😂

Chase!

Similar to Plantes experience the first time I played Honest Hearts I was a long distance sniper. At the very beginning a critical NPC sneaks up on an enemy to help you. I was so far away that when the enemy'e body fell away my sniper bullet missed and hit the allies head. I instantly failed every single quest for the DLC in a way that locked me into the bad end, helping enemies I never even met, and I had no idea why

William (Biggggg5) Mason

Man I really want to peek into the timeline where Obsidian wasn’t shot in the foot and was allowed to finish their games rather than getting unfairly rushed by the people above them. They could be household rpg studio names on par with Larian, BioWare, Fromsoft, Bethesda themselves, if they were allowed the proper time to finish Kotor 2 and New Vegas. They’re already such good games they compete for best in their series in spite of their bugs and unfinished content, imagine their unlocked potential if allowed the proper time to finish. After enjoying outer worlds and only hearing fairly good things about their other recent releases of Pentiment and Grounded and Pillars of Eternity, I’m excited for Avowed and outer worlds 2. Maybe they’re the studio to go with for Baldur’s Gate 4 with Larian not wanting to do it. Even when Wotc inevitably comes down too hard, gets too impatient and starts to meddle too much Obsidian might still get us a decent game out of it.

AWildBrozerker

For the person that sent in the question asking about games that have similar progression loops, you should look into Wasteland 1 and 2 if you haven't already! Fallout 1 was actually a take on Wasteland.

Matthew Aitken

Regarding a new game, Obsidian likely won't be able to make a Fallout anytime soon either. After Avowed, they have The Outer Worlds 2 on deck. Would love to see it happen though.

Mister Cakes

I think also a really cool thing it does is give you "soft barriers" where to a new player it's real, but you can learn, as a player, ways around them. For example, the path to New Vegas is seemingly dangerous in every direction and even after that a difficult entry into the actual gates, but getting in on later playthrough can take just 10 minutes from leaving good springs to in a casino. Also, as an aside, I recommend selling the dlc pack weapons and armor, keeping only the canteen, and then buying a new weapon with those caps

Thomas Barker

Thanks so much for the Japanese learning platform!! I’ve been wanting to learn but haven’t landed on a good teaching tool, and this is perfect!!

Sammy

I somehow didn't know about 'Van Buren' ... so I know what I'll be reading about for the next few days!

n murphy

They don’t really talk about Fallout 76. I know it had problems at launch, but as the only Fallout release I haven’t played I’m curious if it’s now in a better state and worth playing?

EtherEli

It’s funny I started playing NV around when they posted they’d be playing it, and I felt like I was rushing to get to the end so this conversation wouldn’t spoil anything or I’d be more informed. I’m nowhere close to the end, about 15 hours in. I’m kind of near the end of the beginning. But once you get into Vegas and the strip (and Camp McCarran and the Caravan company) and you meet all those people, holy moly do you rack up the quests. And I’m so bad for getting distracted by the most recent thing to happen to me. I’ll say that the appeal of NV as Russ is pitching it here is a terrible fit for me - I like bespoke narrative experiences and a game this open gives me anxiety about which way to go. With that being said, Citizen Sleeper is one of my favorite games in recent memory, so the choice-based narrative is something I value, I just am left feeling like I have to restart and make different choices to experience it all, and with a small game like CS that’s not too bad, but it’s a big part of why I’ve been dragging my feet on BG3 since it came out and I feel like this game, New Vegas, sits kind of in the middle of them. Russ’ point about reviewing a game like this when you have a couple of weeks and other commitments really hits home. With that being said, I have beat the main story before but never touched the DLC, so that is my main goal this time around. I really can’t bring myself to play it differently in terms of, say, siding with the Legion. Maybe try a different build, but man is my build broken right now (I have 5 CHA and love dialogue but 7 STR and INT and like 15 Energy Weapons and Unarmed, but 30 guns and meanwhile 50 Speech and Barter and Science and hoo boy) I get that that’s how RPGs work, lol, but man is this kind of scope not for everybody. Still, glad to have the excuse to get back into it and finally get around to the DLC

ThanaThots

What I really need to know is; what’s y’all’s favorite song in New Vegas and why is it ‘Big Iron’?

emjaybee_3

How spoilery is this episode for FNV? I started it for the first time last week and think I'll go back to it after Eiyuden Chronicle.

Zak Kerr

As someone who picked up NV halfway through last year, I'm so happy you all did this episode!! I originally picked New Vegas up because I had never modded a game before and, from everything I had heard, this was the game to mod. The game is really in a league of its own when compared to other Bethesda games. The choices, dialogue, random encounters, and characters you meet really outmatch most modern RPGs. I could not stop playing once I picked it up.... and I'll probably start it again after I run through Wasteland 2 and 3. So, with that said I would highly suggest that anyone wanting to play to at least dabble with the mods. Most of the ones I used really improved the games performance, overall ambiance (Higher resolution texture packs for NPCs and added vegetation were really fantastic), and some really nice QoL changes. But I also found out that there are a lot of naughty little modders out there raising the horn dog levels of this game to new heights. Luckily they're pretty easy to avoid and usually labeled as NSFW on Nexus Mods. If you're playing on PC, I really cannot recommend modding highly enough.

Matthew Parsons

Plante, on a scale of 1 to 8½, how Criterioncore is Lorelei and the Laser Eyes?

Elklodge

Hey Chris and Russ, I have been playing a little bit of NV this past year and decided to hop back on seeing that you're going to do an episode on it! Thing is, I never know how to enter Fallout games; in particular, I always get choice anxiety when it comes to what stats to level up (SPECIAL, perks, etc.). Do you usually go into a playthrough with a certain build/morality in mind or go along as you please and level up based on how you think the story is going in the moment? Personally, I used to get worried about min/max if I was choosing optimized stats but I found it kept me from immersing myself and being more present with the game. I'm currently trying to find a good balance between the two sides of the spectrum. Interested to hear what others think, too! (Sorry for posting in two threads, idk which one you guys would read) P.S. Plante - who would you pick for best performance: Laura Dern in Inland Empire or Isabelle Adjani in Possession?

Jenna Stoddard

Oof ouch the idea of 10 years from a new fallout... With FO76 I'm sure they're in no rush 😭

Evan

I feel like The Outer Worlds belongs in this conversation. I had a fun time with the game. It gave me Fallout vibes crossed with Firefly (the TV show). It even had a party system with party member quests. There was a surprising amount of player freedom and it’s not a super long game either.

Patrick

Heck yeah, plante and Russ answered my question 😎

Matthew R

Weirdly enough, there is a doctor who reference all the way back in Fallout 1!

Will Metzler

Interesting to hear that people were upset about Obsidian getting the reins. Hindsight 20/20 I guess. Also 18 months is INSANE

Ian Grossberg

@Chris Plante can you speak more to why you digNativShark? I tried their free trial and it felt like there was a lot of pieces of the puzzle all in one place but it felt to me a little rough around the edges. The example sentences, mnemonics, vocab order and other material choices felt sometimes super on point, sometimes really strange and the general screen to screen things were slow to load and behaved odd. I also know I'm someone who is off-put by affirmations and personal anecdotes that I think are formulaic 🙈

emjaybee_3

I'm finally catching up on the episode, and I wanted to say that it's definitely not just Planted having issues with FNV on PC. Mine, with multiple fresh installs, crashes on the first load screen after Chandler Bing shoots you 100% of the time. I played a couple of hours on XBOX, but I'll have to try modding it on PC because gunplay felt miserable on XBOX.

James1645

Amazing episode!

Earthmover

Downloaded NV the other day, and it’s now the first game I’ve ever modded! And it’s running so nice on modern hardware with fresh textures.

geopet

I loved this episode. I’m grateful for the way you put the conversation together to avoid spoilers (I tend to avoid the bracket episodes because I’m a slow gamer who likes to play older games at times) but also talk to the parts that make things fun for you all. Great job! Thank you!

Mr. Pulley

Hey Chris! I'm one of your listeners that never played Fallout, and didn't know there were other ghouls in the show. Careful with your spoilers, man. 😔

Leo

I'm not the first to say this, but The Outer Worlds really shows why Obsidian should take over fallout - iirc Justin brought it as a GOTY contender in its year. They really don't miss with their RPGs.

Elliot Simpson

Great episode! Just wanted to add to Plante's recommendation. I've also been learning Japanese for the past couple of years, and I can't stress enough how lucrative it has been to start reading and engaging with native material. I've been using the site LearnNatively to track my reading, and it's been very rewarding to go from graded readers to light novels and Shounen manga. I highly recommend getting into native input for quick language learning gains!