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I wanted to announce a couple of changes in Gray's route, which is still under development.

MC's animosity towards GrayI've seen a few sentiments about MC's character in particular and how while they enjoy Gray as a character, they dislike the MC because she's too standoffish towards Gray. From other feedback before on previous routes, people's enjoyment of the route is directly linked to whether or not they enjoyed (or tolerated) the MC. If they disliked the MC, then the entire route was a mess.

So the comments that said they think the MC is too abrasive towards Gray, I've taken them into account and have started editing the story to tone down her animosity towards Gray. She'll be mellowed out and is no longer openly hostile towards Gray. Hopefully this will improve people's enjoyment of the route. So if you think it's strange that MC is suddenly much nicer in the upcoming chapters (and previous ones), this is the reason why!

Ivan and JedThis was something that I felt was necessary to address. As I work on Tailor Tales, I try to add more and more diverse characters in the routes. Ivan is one such character, clearly depicting a black man with dreads. The downside is; he's also the villain of the story. Due to the nature of how black people are portrayed in media, I realized that I turned the only black man (in Gray's route) into a bad guy. That's not a connotation I wish to make, nor was it my intention.

(Original Jed on the left, original Ivan on the right)

That's why I've decided to swap Ivan's sprite with that of Jed. They both had similar builds and their voices could easily fit for the other one, but more importantly; Jed is one of the good guys in the story. So from now on out, Jed's appearance will have swapped with that of Ivan's. Their personalities, names and voices remain the same, only the sprite will have changed.

I hope you understand my reasoning behind this. I have many people of colour as players here and I want to represent them as well, but not by accidentally shoving the only relatable figure into a villain role.

So please be mindful of the upcoming update that Jed's sprite will have changed with that of Ivan's and vice versa.

With that said, I want to let everyone know if there's something in the route that bothers you, or makes you uncomfortable, you can always let me know what it is and we can figure out a way to make it more palatable. This includes adding more trigger warnings if necessary etc. I do take your concerns seriously.

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Smol Fox

I understand your changes

Wren

I have to admit, I really enjoy being able to give it back to Gray as much as he gives - you can’t please everyone, that’s a fact, but I hope you leave in a few where MC refuses to take any nonsense still! 💖

Charlie

I haven’t started Gray’s route yet but I am very grateful of this change after reflecting on everything. I’m sure Ivan would’ve been very hot as a villain but I’m grateful for how much thought you put into this <3

Ayumixx_

Not only did you Make Ivan amazingly HOT but I really do appreciate you taking the current social climate into account :) your forever amazing

MAE

You are so sweet and thoughtful with these changes!! I really appreciate it, I will admit when I first realized Ivan is the villain of the story I did feel kind of uncomfortable with it — I really appreciate the changes you’ve made and am excited for the next update. 🥰

EvilChani

Yay! I'm really glad the MC won't be forced to be such an abrasive ass now. Although I don't mind (and do enjoy) having the MC give as good as she gets (as she did with James in the beginning), when Gray is being kind/flirty/not a jerk, it'll be nice to see her to be decent, instead of defaulting to being nasty to him all the time. I mean, other than letting him rent out the basement, she really did come off as flat out horrible, often with no reason--to a guy whose life she pretty much ruined. Left a bad taste in my mouth. As for the other change, I never took it as you making a statement that the only person of color is bad, but I get why you're doing it. Besides, original Ivan is way hotter than Jed, anyway. The dude's eyes are killing me. <3

SippySwoon

Good on you for the sprite swap! It was something that had crossed my mind but I assumed maybe I was overreacting. Thank you for making changes as you go along.

eddiebyme

I understand why you felt the need to change ivan and jed spirits out but to be honest the thought of ivan being a villain never bother me. I am black myself, but to be honest- there are villains of every race and skin tone. I thought it added to Ivan's character development as he would (hopefully) turn around as well as all the old gang leaders in gray's route. I'll respect your wishes though. Thanks for thinking about everyone.

Muur _

Eh, dunno. I actually was fine with that aspect of the MC in his route thus far (variety and all that), but at other times I felt she was a bit too... emotional? Unaturally so, like she was overreacting to the point I was thinking "girl, calm down." As someone else said, you can't please everyone, so do what you feel is best.

eddiebyme

The only route I had an issue with was James as it seemed to end too...kindly. The ending felt rush and I immediately didnt want to bother reading through the plus scenes.

Muur _

The ending definitely felt rushed; I figured it was just writer fatigue, considering how long James' route is compared to the others. While I largely enjoyed his route, the ending put a bit of a damper on it.

Fairy sweet

Thank you so much for your consideration for the black community when changing Ivan’s sprite. I really appreciate that🥰🥰

Monola

Thank you so much for your awareness! I know you will get a lot of differing feedback but I am actually glad that you made the switch with Ivan & Jed. It didn't bother me to much but I definitely had a "of course he's black" eyeroll moment (not a literal eyeroll, lol I love your content too much for that). Thank you for your thoughtfulness when it comes to these issues! I love it!

MermaidVictory

That’s wonderful! I think when the next update is ready I’ll restart to see it. Thank you for being such a kind and considerate human. ❤️🧡💛💚💙💜🖤🤍🤎

sarap

I felt MC's animosity towards Gray was warranted given from her perspective he had brought a knife to their fight intending to stab her. In fact I didn't really understand why she felt guilty enough to let him stay in her basement given that he's obviously dangerous. (I know Ivan planted the knife but MC doesn't)

Empty My Bank Account

Honestly, I'm so grateful that you listen to feedback like this. I do agree that the MC went at Gray HARD sometimes for barely any reason when the dude was really trying but I'm so glad you're tweaking it down a bit. I love the mc in every route and this was the only time I've disliked part of the MC's personality so happy it's getting fixed! Looking forward to the next build release!

Cupcake

The main issue I had personally was the whole high school gang storyline, it's just weird and something I can't relate to at all, it felt like a very strange choice to begin with considering Gray is supposed to be a dominant LI, and pitting him against MC from the beginning destroys trust, which is necessary for a dom/sub relationship to be successful. And as someone stated before, it feels like it's leading to ANOTHER liar revealed storyline, which has been done already and doesn't really work with the VERY important guidelines for SSC d/s dynamics. Sorry for rambling a bit, but there's a huge difference between playful undertones to a d/s dynamic and an unhealthy one.

NaNaNaima

Same, the gang storyline is strange and I was confused of how the nickname/gangname was supposed to be masculine or something but I didn't name it that way which mixed up people's response to thinking MC's a male. That gang mess reminds me of Riverdale which I stopped watch bc I got too confused. Maybe the MC's brother should've been the gang leader and the MC not in the gang at all but got mixed up in their mess because they know her brother idk

Junesong

Same tbh. There's already so many VN's with passive MC's and one of the things I like about Tailor Tales is that you can be a little firecracker without getting punished for it with a bad ending and such. Not loving this change at all.

Junesong

Please dear god don't be another boring passive pushover MC. 😐

celianna

The MC's personality towards Gray will be a bit more toned down, it does not mean she becomes a passive pushover. It's the difference between MC glaring at him for no reason, or just looking at him normally. Small tweaks.

celianna

Sorry to hear you don't like the rival gang theme! I always wanted Gray and MC to be rivals in a way and this is what we ended up with. Twists and reveals are pretty standard for each story (Neil's, Caine's, Aiden's and yes, Gray's), and for this story's conflict, MC doesn't want to reveal her identity to Gray. The dominant and submissive dynamic only comes into play once MC has already confessed and they start being honest with each other. Please note that this dynamic is not the focus of the route either! This is not a story about a dom LI and sub MC, but a story between two rival rang leaders who are learning to work with each other. Please hold your judgement about them being in an unhealthy relationship until you've read more of the story. Unhealthy is definitely not what we're going for, but that will need a little bit more time to develop. Nadine and I work hard on this route ❤ You know what, if it pleases you, I would invite you to come and read over Gray's current script and you can tell me if there's anything problematic. You can join the Discord and message me if you'd like: https://discord.gg/Hh5RGA3

celianna

I admit James' route's endings did end up rushed. I was running out of chapters to wrap up the story for both plotlines (Varitus & Hulio), and ended up resolving them in the same chapter, which can feel rushed and out of place. Since each character has a fixed 28 chapters, I realized more and more as I wrote James that... I couldn't write what I wanted to write and still keep it 28 chapters long! That's why each chapter became longer and longer because I knew I still had a lot of content to go through, but not a whole lot of chapters left. If I knew how long James' route would have been in the end, I'd have stretched out content among earlier chapters so there'd be enough chapters at the end to write two separate chapters to resolve the conflict instead. I may revisit James' route to fix the pacing once I have the time for it.

Fangboylover

Thank you for this change! I love a more outspoken and strong MC but in this route I did find her too harsh. It wasn't horrible but sometimes I wish she was nicer towards Gray.

Laura Mastric

I would like to see some romantic developments between Sarah and Jed. Just putting the idea there if it isn't already. There seems to be a good basis for them coming together and i personally love the idea of besties dating. In Caine's route i enjoyed how Sarah had more of a role in the story.

Laura Mastric

As far as the sprite, I really liked the sprite you had for Jed but I get the reasoning.

Besotted

I am excited b/c this means there is technically more content! I can go back and see if I can figure out what changed :D I really like that a perk of being a patreon member is that we get to see a lot of the process of the game development as well as influence it. It is another layer of entertainment in addition to the game itself. Thank you for all your hard work!

Meshea462 .

The fact that you took this into account makes my heart swell. Thank you! Not many would have made such a change but you have proven to me that creators can be aware of these types of damaging stereotypes even in fiction <3

celianna

Having Patrons follow the process of the game, and hearing their opinions on the current build definitely influences future builds! Stories can change and go in a different direction depending on how its received etc. This is also why Eeyok turned from a throw away character, to one of the most important supporting characters in James' route due to his popularity with the players. This is why feedback is always important and nice to have as a creator! It's all still a work in progress, so seeing what works and what doesn't is part of the process :)

Luna_Roll

Thanks so much, Celina. Must say I also found that the MC was too focused on old high school hostility. You are such a great writer. Definitely going to reread now from chapter 1. :)

Amanda Haas

I am loving the updates based on what I've read it used to be. The only thing that I have a hard time with is the MC hiding her identity so hard. I personally can't keep a secret from someone who would be honest about their past. I'd crash under that pressure and give it up almost immediately especially if I felt I was interested in them/knew that I hurt them. I understand that more than likely will be relevant to the development of the story and the characters, that being said. It's just hard to think in the MC's mindset for me, haha, but I appreciate the story none the less.