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Daniel

Hi Audrey, I’ve been wanting to say this but kept forgetting, I have been excited for this frozen season pretty much sense you started watching the show. As a kid in the era of the blowup of frozen, this season is what bought me to once upon a time. So basically, I’m so excited for you to see it. After the frozen season is over I 100% do not know anything else from this show. With that being said, I won’t say a lot, but I do think it’s funny that you mentioned the snow queen story because I think I heard somewhere that the frozen movie was based on that story although I think they are two different things.

Ashleigh Stanley

The owner of the ice cream shop is one of my fave characters! she aslo played Mrs. clause in the santa clause movies on disney+ staring Tim Allan. If you haven't seen them they're my favorite part of Christmas! Lmaooo

HGranger

Frozen was based off the The Snow Queen. Originally Elsa was supposed to be a bad guy when the animators started it.

HGranger

What I don't understand is why didn't Snow just put the baby in the car seat then deal with the stroller.

Lisa Vanselow

The Snow Queen is a fairytale written by Hans Christian Andersen

Zach Davis

Can’t wait to watch even tho my hearing has greatly diminished. I still have closed captions and Audrey’s epic reactions lol

Last Hale

I believe it’s what Frozen is based off of at least its very early concept and story drafts when Elsa was Still Evil.

Last Hale

Question For the community not so much Audrey: Had OUAT in Wonderland started at this point and that’s why it played the shocking reveal note when it showed Will? I never watched the full thing I just know Will is bigger a character from it.

Turnip Crazy

It premiered entirely before season 4 started. So we'd already seen his whole arch from that show. However, they don't treat it as the same cannon, because where his character ends that show doesn't make sense to how he is with this show.

Layyy529625

Character Redirection?? Emma has Always been rude like that, particularly since she found out who her parents were, she’s been bitter. Both seasons 2 and 3 she was constantly throwing passive aggressive comments at her parents like what she said to Charming at the hospital right before her brother was born and how she was treating Hook around that time. So even the way she she treated Hook this episode is not new. She has been nothing but moody, hostile, and bitter since the dark curse broke. She admitted just the episode before last that the way she has treated her parents the past 2 seasons was foul and “needed to stop”. Though it was last season’s part one finale with her action of choosing to prioritize herself and caring more about what feels like home to her rather than to her child like a good parent would was the worst thing she’s ever actually done, her personality as a whole is taking a nose dive this season but let’s be real she has always been bitchy Emma. Look at the way she treated her parents on the boat on the way to Neverland last season. Or treated Dr. Whale when Greg was brought in in season 2. I could give plenty of examples.

Antoinette

I love your theory. Let me get into this watch party !

Benjamin Smith

One of the reasons I love the Frozen arc is because of Elsa, Anna, Kristoff and yet to be revealed Ice lady. I love them! I can’t wait for you to see more of Anna and Kristoff.

heather Phillips

I love how the opposite reactions of traumatic loss are played out by Snow and Emma . Because Snow lost Emma and missed out on her growing up Snow does not want Neil out of her sight for a single second for fear of missing anything with him . Because of all the men she had ever loved dying, Emma does not want Hook to get close to her for fear of him dying too ! Both reactions are very realistic responses . It was Emma who broke the first curse by kissing Henry after he ate the poisoned apple turnover . Then Regina broke the second curse by kissing Henry after Emma gave him the book which returned his memories.

Savvy

I believe they explain this by this being will before he’s in wonderland

Kam

You are definitely on the right track with your Snow Queen theory. As for Robin's wife, I'm not entirely sure, but I believe that their son was still a baby when she originally passed. So while obviously he still would be happy to have his mom around, I don't know if true love's kiss would really work because he doesn't really know her that well and never got to build a mother-son bond with her

Jay Johnston

So as HGranger said Elsa was originally supposed to be a villain but the producers have said that while they took inspiration from Hans Christian Andersen's 'The Snow Queen' that it was never supposed to be an adaptation of it. Actually originally Elsa and Anna weren't related and neither were truly royals and Elsa was supposed to have a redemption arc at the end of Frozen where they saved Arendelle from Hans

heather Phillips

Anyone else notice how " snow Queen " is manipulating Elsa exactly how Cora did with Regina? Oh I will just kill your friend they will then blame you and you will know how people really see you , as a monster ! 😢😡

Nicole Heslinga

I'm a little late to the party but glad you noticed Emma's personality change and the way she looked so tired. I feel like this is the point where I lost interest in Emma's story quite a bit and Regina started to really carry this whole show for me. This is also why season 4a is not my fave but I'm very excited for season 4b cause Regina plays a larger role again! As a Swan Queen shipper I AM very excited for the next episode tho <3

Lesbirellla

If you really wana feel old check out the actor who plays Henry instagram, he got married last year I believe

SongsFromASuitcase

hey Daniel! I'm glad youre watching this with me :) We'll watch it for the first time together as long as you stick around after the Frozen episodes... hope you do!

SongsFromASuitcase

I would think it's because she's never used a car seat much before. There arent any in the Enchanted Forest and it's the first baby in the real world so she just hasn't seen other moms go about it in their normal daily lives.

SongsFromASuitcase

Ok i looked it up and THIS was the movie my sister would watch over and over: The Snow Queen #Shelley Duvall's Faerie Tale Theatre

SongsFromASuitcase

Yea she just looked worn down. I wonder if anything was going on in her real life?

Zach Davis

Honestly, no clue. I’ve been having issues since the spring and have been having balance issues since the summer. I’m currently in leave from work to hopefully figure it out. Getting an appt with a specialist soon. From what my ent said, the nerves in my ear are dying. So hopefully I can get this sorted by Halloween or Thanksgiving.

Ashleigh Stanley

they're comedy christmas movies where a normal dad becomes Santa Clause. they're funny, heartwarming, and full of Christmas spirit! I'd highly recomend them to watch over Christmas! I've watched them every christmas for like the ast 25 years!

Nicole Heslinga

I googled it and apparently she was dealing with some pretty bad migraines. This is also why she has a lot of scenes in the dark this season. Can't beliebe I haven't noticed that before! I can imagine it's pretty rough to act while also dealing with severe migraines, would explain why she looks so tired.

Jay Johnston

Without giving too much away make sure you have the right actor. The one in this episode is Jared S Gilmore

Nightmare Chara Glitch

Idk if anyone has told u this already, but Will Scarlet is from the Spin-Off Series. I guess it takes place between Season 2 and 3 of Once Upon A Time. The Spin-Off Series is called: Once Upon A Time in Wonderland

Heaven Leigh Barras

That’s not why it wouldn’t work, it’s just not revealed until later. But he did recognize his mother as soon as she stepped into Granny’s so I don’t think he was a baby when she died.

Heaven Leigh Barras

They have said that it takes place during season 2 and even use the wraith being unleashed in the opening, but that logistically makes zero sense because Will stays in Wonderland with his true love but he’s still around here in season 4 and even dates someone later (not trying to spoil anything by using names) so I still don’t understand why they used S2 as the kick-off point for OUaT in Wonderland.