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What should I know about Wizard Of Oz? (Patreon)

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2025-01-27 04:34:36
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2026-06

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I plan on watching The Wizard Of Oz with you all and I want to know:What should I look out for that's connected to WICKED???

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Cody

Can’t answer on connection haven’t watched wicked yet but excited to watch OZ with you

Lucario Stormblade007

I don’t know too much, I’ve never seen the movie, yet. But, I know some weird BTS stuff. 1: the “snow” used in production is actually Asbestos, which wasn’t well known for its serious side effects back then. 2: The Tin-Woodsman had an allergic reaction to the makeup applied, so they had to replace him. (speculation, couldn’t find a source to back it up). 3: The “Ruby Slippers” weren’t supposed to b Ruby at all. They were supposed to be silver, until they discovered they wouldn’t show up nearly as bright when the color parts were being filmed.

Savvy

Hmm I’m not sure how to answer this without spoiling any act 2 stuff of wicked.

Savvy

Obviously the monkeys and wizard are obvious connections… and fun things to look out for are all the repeated actors between Kansas and OZ and who they are in each realm

Jennie Hancock

Wicked isn't a true prequel it is called a revisionist prequel because it is written with the characters and the world that L Frank Baum created but it is Gregory Maguires, the author of the book Wicked, adaption of what he thought could be a origin story for Glinda and the Wicked Witch. So there are some connections in the way that the wicked witch is killed and the theatrics of the wizard of oz. I can't think of any other ones at the moment.

I'm Just Alex

1. In one scene, the Wicked Witch of the West disappears via fire. Margaret Hamilton, who played the Wicked Witch of the West, suffered severe burns because the trap door didn't lower her down. The actress was a school teacher and had appearances on Sesame Street and Mr. Rodgers Neighbordood. The Wicked Witch of the West wasn't green in the original Oz book. She wasn't even the main villain there. She didn't even have a name. They made her green in the movie because of the technicolor and gave her a bigger role. 2. In the Wizard of Oz books, Oz is a real place and readers get to experience all the lands. 3. In the book, there were four witches (north, south, east, and west). 4. The Emerald City was in the center of Oz. In the north is Gilikan Country (it's theorized that Shiz University is located there). Whinkie Country is in the East (in the Wicked movie Fiyero said he was from there). Munchkinland is in the West and Quadling Country is in the South. 5. Glinda was the Witch of the South in the book. Dorthy meets the Witch of the North first in the book and only meets Glinda, the Witch of the South, in the last chapter of the book. In the 39 films, they made Glinda the Witch of the North and sort of combined the two characters into one. 6. Real lion fur is what the Cowardly Lion's costume was made out of. 7. Judy Garland (Dorthy) was forced to go on a diet during this film and The studio also made her take amphetamines to keep her energized. She struggled with substances her whole life. She was still a teenager at that time. 8. The Wizard of Oz book series was written by L. Frank Baum. Wicked book author Gregory Maguire used Baum's initials to actually give the witch a name. L. Frank Baum. El-pha-ba. 8. L. Frank Baum loosely based Glinda the Witch of the South (in his books) on a real person, his mother-in-law Matilda Joslyn Gage. She was a suffragette in the 19th century and fought for freedom and the rights of white women and women of color. She was an activist that was anti-slavery. She also encouraged LFB to write stories. Without her guidance, he might not have ever published his Wizard of Oz books. She died in 1898, 2 years before the first book was released.

Raven Dark

There's only one thing I can think of right off the top of my head that it would be neat for you to know about The Wizard of Oz with regards to Wicked. It's just a fun little detail. The ruby slippers in the movie were originally supposed to be silver, but they were changed to red because red shows up better on screen. In Wicked, the silver shoes that Elphaba's sister is given by her father, which are silver, are likely meant to be an Easter egg representing that detail.

Jacob Bess

1. In wicked the broom is supposed to be made of mangrove roots but in wizard of Oz it’s a more normal looking broom. 2. I think the lion costume was said to be the most uncomfortable. It would get soaked in sweat everyday. 3. Dorothy is 12 years old but Judy Garland was 16 at the time. 4.In wizard of Oz Glinda doesn’t need a platform for her bubble.

Jennifer Ross

Not related to Wicked, but Judy Garland very briefly breaks character at some point when meeting the Cowardly Lion. Haven't watched it in a bit though

Selma Jabr

That and they were silver in the book

Madeline Jensen

As someone else said it’s hard to say some stuff because it might spoil part 2 of Wicked. Having said that there are some things that can be said that won’t spoil The Wizard of Oz or Part 2 of Wicked. 1) In Wicked Elphaba rides the bike with a basket on the back of it, that holds the lion cub in it, which the cub pops his head out of for a moment. That scene with her riding the bike is similar and a callback to a scene that happens in the Wizard of Oz with a bicycle and a certain character 2) The way Dorothy is told how to get back home to Kansas by a certain character involving the ruby red slippers, has a brief callback shown in Wicked during the song Popular (or at least shoes shown to symbolize them). 3) Fun fact I learned recently in a class I’m taking for school, is the actor Bert Lahr, who played the Cowardly Lion, started his performing career on vaudeville stages at 14. He used to perform on vaudeville stages with his first wife (he was married twice), Mercedes Delpino. He also made his Broadway debut in 1927, doing a musical with his first wife. 4) As someone mentioned technicolor was a new thing when the Wizard of Oz came out (1939) so they did as much as they could to make use of it. For example, I heard/read that the horse that is used to pull the carriage in a scene of the movie (the Wizard of Oz) keeps changing color because they wanted to see how the colors would look on screen 5) There’s also a small detail with a certain character’s socks that you might pick up on and notice that another character in Wicked has a tendency to wear them 5) In Wicked the silver shoes, that were Elphaba and Nessarose mother’s, have what are meant to almost look like tornadoes for the heels; meant to give a callback to how Dorothy ended up in Oz 6) In Wicked the hot air balloon that Galinda (Glinda) and Elphaba try to escape in right before/during the song Defying Gravity, comes into play in the Wizard of Oz as well

Selma Jabr

1) Judy Garland was put on a diet of coffee and cigarettes to stay skinny and was very verbally abused BTS. (Not a fun fact exactly.) 2) Asbestos was used as the snow in the poppy field. 3) The lion suit was made using a a real lion skin. 4) The munchkin actors were severely underpaid. We’re talking a dollar or two a day at most and not given proper accommodations. 5) The Tin man used lead face paint which caused a bad reaction. 6) The man with the wagon that Dorothy meets is wearing a jacket that was found at a 2nd hand store and turned out to have belonged to the original author of the Wizard of Oz. 7) Finally, the original books author was very political and based characters like the wizard off of corrupt politicians who only pretended to do good. Sound familiar?

Joseph Kemp

I really hope you do “The Wiz” starring Diana Ross and Michael Jackson, Produced by Quincy Jones. Eventually! 😍

❤️

The snow one isn’t true it was just a fake rumour that spread for years (just like the munchkin apparently dying on set it’s actually just a bird)

Sarah Doty

So you will find some connections between wizard of oz and wicked, of course, but it's important to keep them separate. They are almost like alternate universes of each other. Wicked is not a true prequel and rewirites/ignores parts of wizard of oz.

CCCh

honestly just keep in mind that the wizard of oz is seen as the “propaganda” and wicked more like the origin story. But wicked is also non-official and kind of just like the fanfic.

My Page

You should remember that Elphaba is destined to become the Wicked Witch of the West and that Nessarose is her sister. Nessa's Jeweled shoes are the Ruby slippers. In the 1900 novel The Wonderful Wizard of Oz by L. Frank Baum, the shoes are silver but were changed to Ruby for the Technicolor effect in the 1939 film and that is all I can say without spoiling Wicked: For Good, unless you've seen the musical. (p.s. The Mayor and the Governer are not the same character.)

Peter Gillespie

Originally, Buddy Ebson was up for the role of the tinman, they already started filming scenes, but due to health reasons (caused by the tinman makeup) he was replaced by Jack Haley. You can actually find Ebsons original version of "If I only had a heart" on the movies anniversary soundtrack. The only remains of Ebson in the actual movie is that they didn't re-record the version of "were of to see the wizard" that Dorothy, scarecrow and tinman sing together. If you listen closely you can hear that voice isn't Jack Haley.

Astoria

*1) her breasts were tightly bound that she looked younger and have a less feminine shape

Tema Krempley

She was also sexually abused/assaulted in the Munchkin scenes. A lot of the Munchkin actors took advantage of their height to touch her under her skirt and no one protected her from it. I REALLY wish that was a rumor... But its' not...

Alex Foster

Don't have much to add everyone has given so much amazing info on the movie. I do know that when the movie changes sepia to technicolour, as Dorothy goes to open the door , its a body double painted in sepia tones ( the scenery also was painted in sepia for this scene) then Judy garland walks out to the technicolour land of oz.

sidney

1- the red shoes were red to show off the camera colour quality, in wicked we see the silver shoes that elphabas father gives nessa-rose, those are the red shoes in this movie. 2- nessa-rose is the one under the house after the tornado comes.

sidney

also everyone was heavily mistreated. the wicked witch was caught in a fire on set and her green-paint stuck to her skin and gave her skin a green tint for the rest of her life after this.

Alex Foster

Oh I also forgot that the dog playing toto was called terry and is in fact a female dog. She got paid more than the munchkin actors. Oh and of course Margaret hamilton ( wicked witch of the west) got second degree burn on her face and third degree ob her hand during the scene in munchkin land. It was due to the trap door she was meant to fall down malfunctioning while the pyrotechnics were set off. She was hospitalised and took 6 weeks off to recover. There was a second incident involving fire where a smoke pipe attached to the broom exploded while hamiltons stand in was filming thw 'surrender dorothy' scene. She was severly burnt on the leg and hospitalised for 11 days. Hamilton refused to work with fire again after these incidents.

Lovisa Axelqvist

I thought Dorothy is like 8 or something but I could be wrong

Lacy Hause

I don’t know if anyone’s mentioned it and it doesn’t have a connection to Wicked, but the original version of Wizard of Oz, not the remastered one that you’ll probably be watching, there is a scene where Dorothy meets Tin Man and they set off to Emerald City. As the camera zooms out as they’re walking and singing, in the background between the trees, you can see what looks to be a person h*nging (sorry, didn’t want to use the actual word). They’ve since either removed it or covered it up. You might be able to find the original scene on YouTube. A lot of people say it could be different things, but when I watched it, it most definitely looked like someone h*nging.

Alex Foster

As far as ive learned and seen of both old and new versions. It's a crane or some kind of big bird. I do remember watching the old version of it as a kid and being convinced it was a munchkin tho.

Lacy Hause

I know it caused so much controversy that they covered it up, which makes me think that maybe it was a person.

Laura Moore

I watched The Wizard of Oz every year on TV when I was a child. Those fricking flying monkeys scared the crap out of me then and the "transfomation" scene in Wicked had me me gasping out loud and covering my eyes like a five year old 😆 One thing I noticed, but no one else seems to mention is a familiar musical phrase from the original movie's celebration of a different witches death. The song is "Ding, Dong the Witch is Dead". Listen for it in the orchestral opening of "No One Mourns the Wicked". Enjoy you're different visit to Oz.

Cynthia M Farrington

She gave an interview and said she didn’t sue because she was afraid she’d never work again in the business.

Cynthia M Farrington

Notice how Toto is carried away in a basket on mean Mrs. Gulch’s bicycle and peers out just like the lion cub.

Heather

That last part is just one of the weird TikTok rumours, honestly. Skin just doesn’t work that way. She did get badly burned though. But she actually apparently loved making this film.

Delilah Heldt

They made a sequel, kinda in thr 80s, it was terrible couldn't even finish the movie, it was called return to Oz, somehow Dorothy was younger. In 2013 they made oz the great and powerful. Its about the wizard and how he became who we see in the movie.

Rhonda K. Craven

The poppy field scene in WOZ and the classroom scene with the poppies show parallel effects. Folks think the Munchkins should all be little people because of their depiction in WOZ, but the book never described them as such. They were to the same height as Dorothy. Ms. Coddle, during her conversation with Elphaba references "a slight gulch." The mean neighbor in WOZ was Mrs. Gulch.

Rhonda K. Craven

I decided to rewatch "The Wiz" this year after hating it when it first came out (1978). Sadly, I still felt the same way. Many folks have grown up with fond memories of the movie (largely, I think, because of its positive and fun representation of black people [I happen to be black]), but I was in my mid-20s. I was turned off that Diana Ross, at 33, "bogarted" her way into the role of Dorothy, and they rewrote her part. Sidney Lumet, an excellent director, had no experience with musicals. As a big Michael Jackson fan, I so wanted to like it. I had the privilege of seeing the OBC with Stephanie Mills in 1975 - to me, there is no comparison! I'll be interested in your opinion if you do decide to watch it whenever you get the time (ha!)