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Jeanette Dawe

their acting in this episode is amazing in this episode.

Jennifer Lawrence

Definitely a storyline I (and I'm sure a lot of others) have been waiting for as I knew the discussions would be so good. I should go back and catch up on all the episodes I've missed, lol. My work schedule and everything has been so crazy the last few months that and I'm trying to get back into a watch routine. I'm so far behind 😂

Jennifer Lawrence

Also, I absolutely hate the mentality that body hair is "dirty". It's so shaming and something we can't exactly control. You can't just tell the hair not to grow. Humans have body hair for a reason! It may not be aesthetic but it's not unhygienic.

james

I haven't pressed play yet but 38 minutes? I'm sat

Alex Foster

I near spoiled that he slept with the girl in last episode haha. Had to edit my comment, thankfully had just posted it and noticed right away 😄. A kiss i could forgive but, I dont think I could take him back after having sex with someone. Id at least have take time and space getting my own head sorted to see how I feel about it all, when my emotions have calmed a bit and i could think clearly. But i feel like i just couldnt be with my partner if they were to sleep with someone and soo quickly ( being drunk is not an excuse). This was the moment that made Ross my least favourite of the group for a while haha. Your waxing story reminded me of a similar one i had. My waxer wasn't so rough thankfully 😂, but it was an odd experience to say the least. Not as painful as I expected. But Went with a friend once and she had me get my legs done so she didn't have to suffer alone and feck me! that was like hell compared to my arse 🤣.

Heida

I don't think I would be able to take him back. To me, once Ross slept with someone else nothing else mattered (it was so hard to fully explain my thoughts about it without mentioning that btw!). What made this even worse is that Ross was more interested in getting out of trouble than actually own up to what he did and apologise sincerely. He didn’t just make a mistake, he did it out of sheer spite/revenge 'cause he heard Mark in the background. And you're right, he wasn't THAT drunk (though Chloe probably shouldn't have slept with him anyway). They're fighting about two very different things and that's the core issue here. for Rachel - she sees Ross's mindset as that he thought she was sleeping with Mark and then immediately slept with another woman "to get back" at Rachel, which, I think he needs to be honest with himself here, is exactly what he did. He wanted to hurt her like he thought she was hurting him. For Ross though, he sees it as being more about the technicality of "break up" vs. "on a break" (as opposed to her pain and how he'd hurt her). That was his entire argument. Whereas for Rachel it was "you not only hurt me but you intentionally did it TO hurt me", and to me, that was Rachel's final straw. Instead of owning up to what he did, he made the entire argument and his defense entirely about a technicality. He got so caught up in little things and focused on all the wrong things. I think that's his ultimate downfall, maybe even moreso than the physical act of sleeping with someone else. He also shouldn't have expected her to IMMEDIATELY forgive him, everything to just be okay and go back to normal. I will always love Roschel but I will never pretend that their relationship wasn't unhealthy at times. And even though they both made mistakes in the relationship, I am 100% Team Rachel on this. This episode is always a hard watch but it's also one of my favourites. I love how they executed the fight with the other four there. Thanks to that, the episode felt cohesive and it made the drama work so much better when we never left the apartment in the second half. They also did a wonderful job writing it in a way that you felt the drama and the pain, yet at the same time they didn’t forget the comedy (and the jokes didn’t take away from the seriousness). Fun facts: The fight scenes felt so real because both Jennifer Aniston and David Schwimmer couldn't stop crying while filming them. On another note, the song playing in the recap is Wicked Game by Chris Isaak (who also played the guy Phoebe was with when she was singing "inappropriate" songs for the kids), the same song that played when Ross and Rachel had their first kiss in 2x07. Furthermore, With or Without You by U2 was the song playing at the end of 3x15, the same song Ross dedicated to Rachel on the radio after he wrote the list in 2x08. Never had a wax anywhere btw and I don't have any desire to. That story is WILD.

Dylan

This episode breaks me every single time...

Ava Koppenhoefer

While I find Ross throughout the show funny I do not like him and I really can’t stand this episode. It always bothers me that he won’t leave, let her have time and space to process and then has the audacity to flip it on her to make the decision. I also don’t like how this becomes a running joke throughout the rest of the show because like you said it doesn’t matter that they were on a break. Everything he did immediately after was horrible

Tereza

finally this episode! i've been waiting a long time to discuss this topic. i agree with you, ross messed this up. he only focus whether they had a break or not. actually this is one of the most discussed questions about friends in the world. fans still ask if they had a break or not, but i don't think that matters at all. yes, technically he didn't cheat on her. when rachel comes to his house, she asks if she can be his girlfriend again. this implies that they had something like a break or a breakup. but even if they broke up, the mistake is that a few hours later he slept with someone else. or not even a mistake, but something that would break me. and ross expects her to forgive him and move on? does he not realize at all how he made her feel and what she needs? he defends himself as if it were nothing. i don't think anyone in rachel's place would take him back at that moment. it's a huge injustice on ross' part. It doesn't matter what he thought about Mark. He had no proof, and Rachel did nothing wrong. She didn't flirt with Mark, she didnt went to the movies with him, he was just a colleague. Ross suspected her all along. And then he acts like this himself? That's hypocritical. I wouldn't take him back. The fact that he's able to go after one fight, get drunk and sleep with someone else. That same day! If it was after 4 days, they were definitely broken up, we could talk about it. But really? She didn't say she wanted to break up, she didn't say she was ending it with him. So why does he claim he thought their relationship was over? He was imagining things, but that's his problem, he can't blame Rachel for it. She didn't call Mark, he came by himself. And she called ross that evening to say she changed her mind. She just wanted to think for a moment to realize what she wanted. He ran away that evening. This is simply Ross's fault and he can't defend it or turn it around in a way that makes him look like a poor man.

Daniella may Harrison

Yeh i have been in the situation before 3 times technically and i forgive and it bit me in the arse but would i forgive them now it depends on how long we have been together is this the first time this happened did he tell me or did i find out for someone else and if they were wanting to be with me would they be open to going to couples therapy and working through it together and then i would take some time to fix i can remeber my second relaionship we got togther when me and my first broke up for the third time were together about 9 moths and he again like the first was pissed that i would not have full sex with him so he taught it would be ok to sleep with my best friend and then told her to tell me what he had done i was pissed at them both and he did wha ross did tryed kissing me pulling me closer to him by my hips wich he know most of the time worked when we would argue i said to him dont touch me i need some time to think things through just to make it clear we are sill together i just need time to think. he contined to sleep with her behind my back i remeber how i caught him the second time was i found gold jewlry on his dresser for context i cant ware gold as i am alergic to it so is his mum and sister so icouldent have been anyone else so i took the jewlry and took it home and put in on my bed side cabenate and she came over that day long stor short we were watchng movies and she turend aroud and saw the jewlry and said omg i have been looking for this i thaught i had lost it in that moment i knew so i broke up with hime about a month later my first ex wormed his was back in and the second ex was pissed when i got back tohether with him and acused me of chaeting and called me a whore so with taht i pulled out one om my fave lines wichw as feom grays annatomy wich i knew he wouldednt have seen and siad you dont get to call me a whore you cant judge how i chose to fix what you broke and walked off t turnes out she was pregna with someone elses child and she had been ceating on him while he was cheating on me so thats what you all karma {one of my fave saying that my mum told me is Karma is a bitch it will always come back and bite you on the arse}

Samir

If I were in Rachel’s position, I don’t think I could’ve taken Ross back that night. The pain would’ve been too fresh, the betrayal too sharp. I would’ve needed time not just to cool down, but to really sit with what happened, to understand what it meant for us and for me. Healing doesn’t happen in a rush, and clarity usually comes slowly. Whether it changed everything forever would depend on more than just that one moment. It would depend on who we were before that night what kind of foundation we had built together. If it had felt strong, if there had been trust, safety, and real communication between us, then maybe I’d find a way to believe we could come back from it. Maybe. But that kind of trust isn’t something that just reappears. It would take time, effort, and a lot of truth-telling. But if the relationship already felt fragile if there had been cracks we’d ignored or patterns of misunderstanding then I’d have to be honest with myself and ask a harder question: Was this just the breaking point of something that was already falling apart? And I think that’s the part people overlook sometimes that betrayal doesn’t just hurt because of what someone did, but because of who you thought they were. It shakes your sense of reality. It makes you question your own judgment, your own ability to trust. That kind of pain doesn’t fade easily. Forgiveness, for me, can’t come just because the other person says “I’m sorry.” It has to come from a place of real accountability where they show they understand what they broke, and why it mattered. And even then, forgiveness doesn’t always mean reunion. Sometimes it means letting go for your own peace. At the end of the day, love should feel like a place where you’re chosen consistently, consciously, even in conflict. If someone stops choosing you the moment things get hard, or if they look for comfort elsewhere instead of coming to you, that says something. And if they don’t even realize what that says… that says even more. So no, it’s not just about whether we were on a break. It’s about what love really means when it’s tested and whether both people are willing to grow through the hard parts, or only stay for the easy ones. Side note: It makes me happy that you’re at the stage where Friends starts feeling like more than just a comedy—there’s some real heart and legit moments in there…🥹

Lucy

I have eagerly waited for you to see this episode. It is one of my favourites as yes we have some comedy but it raw, it's drama it panic and people trying to make up to mistakes but failing and I feel we really see the full scope of the acting here especially by Rachel. I agree Rachel has some amazing lines in there s too and I can really feel it as a similar thing happened to me with my boyfriend before my husband and yup I could not take them back ( and I didn't). And I agree it sad it had to get to this for them to communicate but finally we get the communication and wow! On a side note Audrey you got a Hollywood wax which is completely different to a bikini wax you poor thing! I always have bikini waxes but I take paracetamol just before hand.

Enzo Reis

Yes! I agree with you. I wouldn't take Ross back because again, even if you are looking in the lands of "Ross didn't cheat" emotional cheating exists and hurts even more. Because the guy you loved and had respect for slept with someone 5s after you "broken up" or had "taken a break" without talking your feelings for them in consideration. And she didn't find out for him and he even admitted that he wouldn't tell her. Also, I like how the writers did this in the sense of there's both sides to it. And you can definetly understand both perspectives and feelings, and also you feel the break up and the break up hits you. And Jennifer and David acting was on point! Also the only think about this that annoyes me in this whole think is Ross lack of accountability. YOU KNOW THAT WHAT YOU DID WAS WRONG WITHOUT THE "WE WERE ON BREAK THING" SO WHY YOU DON'T SAY I SORRY HONEY I F*UP? You are a grown man and you are aware of your actions and how they affect people so take accountability for it and recognize the fact that you also ran away from the relationship! And You also were immature as well, that's nothing wrong in that. You are in a relationship Were both can drew blood and both are humans that can be flawed sometimes. The point is how you deal with it and recognize it so you both won't do this again and both involve to a healthier place in the relationship with better communication.

Annie Willow

I’m the kind of person that always tries to see the good in everyone and i tend to like just about everyone, but if you do me wrong, I’m done. It takes a lot for me to fully open up to someone and trust them and I am a huge advocate for open communication. I love deep conversations with those few that I fully trust so if someone that close to me betrayed my trust some how, that’s it. Those people already know that I the most loving person unless someone gives me a reason not to be and then I explain my stance and then goodbye. I don’t even hold a grudge. Like Taylor Swift said, “It isn’t love, it isn’t hate, it’s just indifference.”

Megan Christina

Much to my disappointment in myself, I did take back someone like that. The circumstances were different. She didn't sleep with anyone, but she emotionally/verbally/mentally abused me, and when she begged for me to take her back, I did, more than once. It's hard when you're so blinded by the love you have for this person. It was when she told me she wanted to sleep with other people while I figured out if I fully trusted her that I finally bailed for good. With the space I have from it if I was Rachel, I would NOT have been able to forgive Ross. Also, I've never been waxed, but I've always thought about it. People always say it's not a big deal but I don't believe it.

Jade

Not gonna lie, this is the storyline that solidifies Ross as my least favorite of the 6 :/ The way he takes zero accountability and blames Chandler and Joey for convincing him to not tell her is so icky. He uses the whole "we were on a break" excuse, but even if they genuinely were on a break (which was said in the heat of the moment during a fight btw), hooking up with someone the night of the breakup is still insane to me lol. I'd never go back to someone like that, and I thank myself for watching this show when I was younger because it taught me the exact type of person I never wanted to be with.

Lady RedShee

I'm going to say something similar to what I did on the last episode: EVERYONE SUCKS. I've never been "team Ross" or "team Rachel", I've always been "they all oopsed". - Rachel admitted to Monic "we kinda broke up", meaning she knew that Ross thought they were over because she thought they were too and she wanted to "get back together" with Ross. Rachel keeps back peddling by saying to Ross during the fight that they were on a break when she said something TOTALLY different to Monica. Hell, she even asked Ross if she could be his girlfriend again. You don't need to ask that if you are still together. She is giving mixed messages. - Ross was not just drunk, he was "I don't really remember what happened drunk". David didn't really portray the drunk symptoms well but we can infer it from how he woke up not really sure of his surroundings, thinking for a moment he hadn't actually had sex, and taking pills to dull the pain of a hangover. Does it count as cheat if one person is drunk and the other is sober? - Chloe has ZERO remorse, thinks her behavior is fine and quirky, doesn't see the damage she helped do, and is a thief. And if she wasn't sober then she sure bounces back a hell of a lot faster than Ross. - Joey and Chandler shouldn't have encouraged Ross to tell a lie of omission. Ross should have made up his own mind regardless of their opinions. Ross shouldn't blame Joey and Chandler, but those two shouldn't encourage him to lie. - NO ONE had the right to interfere in their relationship and blab to Rachel without even seeing if Ross was going to tell her himself. It would have been one thing if days or weeks went by and he hadn't said anything, but not even an entire 24 hours passed before they started gossiping. Not your circus, not your monkey, leave them alone. - Gunther didn't tell Rachel out of the goodness of his heart, that much is obvious. He has a crush on Rachel and wanted them to break up. - Ross called Rachel out on giving up too easily, she dodged it and said it was "neither here nor there". Umm, no. That fight got them into this mess because they had not communicated for far too long and Rachel has a habit of backing down and running away. She bailed on her own wedding rather than talk to Barry, she stayed at a job she hated because she was too scared to take a risk, she let her father walk all over Ross, and she lets her parents' divorce pull her in opposite directions and accommodates THEM rather than telling them to grow up. Ross has his share of issues and insecurities, but his are always highlighted and I don't think Rachel's baggage gets enough attention. - Ross isn't the only one who needs to take accountability for his role in things, Rachel does too. Joey and Chandler should also apologize for the shit advice. I would never expect Chloe to apologize because she doesn't care. I genuinely believe that Ross would have forgiven Rachel if she had cheated. He was willing to have sex with Carol again after she cheated with Susan, that's how they got Ben. Rachel means so much more to Ross, always has. This is NOT all Ross' fault, he gets a lot of hate for something that involved multiple people. He is NOT completely innocent either. These are a bunch of young people in their 20s. Ross and Rachel are in their first really serious relationship; yes Ross was married but he admits repeatedly that he loves Rachel more. People look at their relationship with the hindsight of being older or having more experience rather than just looking through the lens of JUST Ross and Rachel's relationship without any additional bias. Yes, the bias is what makes us more drawn in and invested in one side or the other, but this situation isn't clean enough to be that black and white. I don't see Ross leaving the apartment as "running away". She wanted a break, he gave her one. Ross hung up the phone when he heard Mark because she LIED about him being there and that hurt him. I don't see that so much of running away as I do him being hurt because, like he said, he thought she cheated and he caught them. Could I take my SO back in this situation? Yes, IF I knew all of these factors and IF I could admit to my own fault as well. It's not like Ross just randomly decided to go sleep with another girl when his relationship was doing fine and dandy. In THIS situation two people were involved at the core of the fight, two people were involved in the relationship getting strained, and two people are responsible for it crumbling or becoming stronger. They can't fix it with just one of them doing the work, they need to do it together and learn from what happened. I would take my SO back, not the same day, but after some cooling off. I HAVE taken my now-husband back after a break and we have been in a relationship for 18 years, married for the last 3. We are high school sweethearts and had a LOT of growing to do at different times and in different ways but we have made it work. Sorry I rambled so long with this comment, I just never thought only one person was to blame or should be solely responsible for making amends and repairing the relationship. I love Ross and Rachel together because they have so much promise, they just need to get their shit together.

Wrai Vizner

I couldn't take him back if I was in her shoes. I agree with everything you said about the situation. Also, they had a phone call discussing that the break was stupid and they could work on it, but then couldn't allow Rachel to explain the situation about Mark before he just threw it all away, but then expected her to listen to everything he had to say after he already chose another girl. I personally wouldn't be able to believe that someone loved me as much as Ross claims to love Rachel if they were then so intimate with someone just a few hours later.

Mel86

You should watch Wanda Sykes stand up show I'ma Be Me. She has a waxing story that's hilarious

Van Evans

I'm super behind on these but I'll put my two cents in anyway. I think if I were in Rachel's shoes, I would be hurt by the hookup, but I think I could maybe get over it, there was a miscommunication. I do actually think they were 'on a break'. They should have discussed what the break meant though. The big issue I have is the fact that he tried to hide it from her. Which means that he knew it was a bad move, but then he dug in his heels and claims that he was not really in the wrong. He blames her for bailing on their relationship, he plays the victim, and then expects forgiveness. That is INCREDIBLY immature. I couldn't forgive that. Their relationship has always been super toxic though, especially the way Ross treats Rachel and the other women in his life. (she's definitely got her own issues that add to the toxicity as well.) Something that has been pointed out by lots of people is that Ross almost never does something genuinely nice for a woman unless he's trying to sleep with her. I honestly think Joey is less misogynistic than Ross (examples: the lady in labor that he helps in the hospital, when he tries to get along with Janice.) ABOUT THE WAXING THING: I hate the idea that body hair is dirty with a fiery burning passion. I'm also of the camp that men who like hairless women are creepy. Only children are hairless. It's a much longer discussion about what capitalism and porn have done to our brains in regard to teaching us from a young age what is and isn't attractive, but I said what I said. And that lady assaulted you. I understand the language barrier, but you didn't understand what was happening and weren't able to give full consent, and that's not okay. I know you seem fine and laugh about it now but I'm still sorry that happened to you.