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ONCE UPON A TIME 05X11 WATCH PARTY (Patreon)

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2025-05-27 12:00:06
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2026-09-24 06:23:55
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Dhalia Swann

Rumple watches Hook sacrifice himself so he can regain his power Belle "For the first time you were truly selfless." The audience screaming at the screen "Not again" Rumple "Its what I do"

Dhalia Swann

The 100th episode is coming up There's always a slight break in the characters communication with Belle, I view it as Belle being a convenience character, she's there when they need her, she gets information when she needs it for the story, but most of the time they kind of forget her and she is just a part of Rumple's story, not her own. It's one of the reasons I'm not overly fond of her character, because her story revolves around Rumple with not much else to flesh her out a bit I don't think she's supposed t be viewed that way, its how I see it

DazzleFae

This episode kinda explains why Killian turned so quickly after Emma turned him into a DO and then used the sword to control him. I've read entire essays people have written analysing everything, but I'm not able to remember all the points. But it's all PTSD. He was sold into servitude as a kid, he spent most of his childhood a slave, under others' control. Then in Neverland he was under Pan's control. Then Rumple took his heart and controlled him. And then Emma, probably the first person he's trusted in centuries, turns him into the thing he hates most against his will, and then controls him. Even if some of it was an accident, it still happened, and she still lied about having the means to do so. It's all just a trauma response. Still not good that he put everyone through what he put them through (especially Henry!!) but it does explain the quick change. Including when he got his memories back. He suddenly remembered Emma taking control from him. He even says in the scene where he kills Merlin "Now no one will ever control me again." It's ALL about having control of himself. Of course, he DOESN'T have full control of himself, the darkness is messing with his mind way too much to honestly claim he did. But that's what it's all about. Idk, I just think he's one of the most interesting characters on the show, but they severely neglected actually exploring that...

Dhalia Swann

I absolutely adore the show, but that doesn't mean I can't see its flaws. there were a lot of stories that could have been explored and assigned deeper meaning which would have made it more connected, but they let them go and glossed over a lot of more real-world repercussions. It's okay though because OUAT is my comfort show, it gets me out of my head and keeps me engaged and entertained when I need it the most

Justine Cbn 📽

This episode is one of my most emotional crash out from this show! OMG what a twist! I will never stop saying that Hook's sacrifice is one of the most powerful scenes in the series . Colin's performance was AMAZING, once again the eye work OMG. About Hook's revenge , You said in the middle of the episode that Emma was never a real villain , because dark ones usually do horrible things for no reason . Well, I'd say that Hook as a Dark One matches that personality trait in that he doesn't just hurt Rumple and Emma, but all the main characters. On the episode and mainly the flashbacks, even if I love the scenes between Regina and Hook (which are too rare for my taste), I find that the episode would have been more interesting if we had really followed Hook as a child until eventually his reunion with his father, because I find that his assembly is always touched upon but not explored enough. But this episode does act out the fact that the character has one of the worst backstories, so many traumas.

DazzleFae

Oh definitely! There were so many stories that they just abandoned and never spoke of again, or wrapped up in an unsatisfactory way.

Dhalia Swann

I've always wondered how his dad could have believed naming his son Liam is honoring the sons he abandoned, in my head I just can't see how that works. I get Hook's anger in that moment, the feeling that the brother he adored had been so easy to replace and how that could drive a traumatized being to commit such a cruel act in response. I am not excusing Hooks behavior, just saying I can see where he's coming from

Justine Cbn 📽

I did ( as always under OUAT react lol ) under Audrey's react to 5x10 a pretty big comment about how Hook's bad decisions should be put into perspective with his traumatic past. I agree , they don't justify his choices but they can explain them.

Justine Cbn 📽

Hook's traumas are so downplayed and not exploited by the writers... In my opinion, the trauma of being controlled by others could have been used to bring Regina and Killian closer together, given that she has been under Cora's control for years.

Dhalia Swann

I've never been Regina's biggest fan, if you looked through my comments on her it would be obvious, but I don't think they explored her past enough either. She went from kind and loving to total bitch in like three seconds flat. I would have liked to have seen a more gradual fall into darkness for her. I might have liked her more if I had been on that journey with her, but instead it was like Here is Regina sweet and loving but controlled by her mother and here is Regina, lonely and neglected by the king, to here's Regina totally evil. We didn't see enough of the middle for me to think her devolution was, justified is not the right word, but maybe earned. Nothing can justify her choices just like with many other characters

Kellie Ayers Burk

Here is some inside info I know because my BBF worked on the show and was good friends with the cast even lived with Lana and Jen. The name “Kelly” was for me that’s my name just spelled differently. There are a few moments during the series where she started working with the cast (Season 3). I’ll point them out when they come if you want me to. 5B was one of my favorite series arcs.

Melody L.

I was crying my eyes out, and you comment about the random medical people and I started laughing, pretty sure my girlfriend think im crazy right now ahahah! Edit: The Underworld now... :/ lolll!! Its sooo all over the place!

Justine Cbn 📽

OMG she's my favorite with Hook!! I see your point. I feel that the writers have developed her story more in Storybrooke's present than in her past in the Enchanted Forest. Unlike Regina and Rumple, I still feel that Killian's work to confront the darkness wasn't developed enough, in the sense that he didn't have someone to encourage him like Henry did for Regina and Belle did for Rumple. Emma didn't really have that place in my opinion - which is why I think a friendship centred around confronting trauma could have brought Hook and Regina closer together.

Nicole Heslinga

Must say this half of the season wasn't my favorite but I still enjoyed watching it with you cause of your reactions hahah! I think it's mostly cause Regina is like the heart of the show for me and she was kinda reduced to a side character this season like I LOVED her snarky comments but I wanted more! So glad we saw a little more of her in this episode already and even the Evil Wueen in Hook's backstory this ep, I missed her and her sexy outfits too! 🔥 Loved the 'Enjoy Oz Witch' like you just knew the B word was actually meant to be there. So excited for the next half of the season though! I did really enjoy that one! Also like imagine the time Regina's gonna have in the underworld with all the people she's hurt OOF. 😲

Nicole Heslinga

I'm like the biggest Regina defender out there so excuse my rant lmao but I actually felt like ouat showed her gradually go darker pretty well! Like she starts very sweet in the flashbacks with Daniel but obviously when her mom kills him that's a turning point and it’s not like Regina just becomes evil overnight, we see her grief and rage and see Cora manipulating her into thinking love is a weakness. Then in Season 2 and 3 flashbacks, Rumple obviously has a big influence on her and she sees dark magic as a way to gain conrol over her life. She doesn't want to hurt people with it at first and is hesitant but it's like the only way to protect herself from being a pawn in other people's (rumple, her mom's) games. We also see her try a few times to be good with Snow. She tries to move on a few times but then something happens and she fails and gets pulled deeper into the anger and bitterness. So to me it was pretty gradual — we just don’t see it all in one go and chronologically. It’s scattered across seasons and told in pieces!

Nicole Heslinga

Yeah that's such a shame! I love when we have Belle episodes where she has her own story, like the one with Mulan or the scenes she had with Ariel. Like she's such a great character with a lot of potential but the writers kinda had the tendency to make the womens stories all about their love interests which is a shame! Also why I like season 1 and 2 the most cause Hook & Hood where not there that much yet hahah oops.

Dhalia Swann

Audrey and anyone who has not seen the show before do not read this comment SPOILERS ahead * * * * * * * * * * * * I think that's enough stars I honestly think it could have been worse in the underworld considering how many lives Regina was responsible for destroying or ending. Regina is not my favorite character, Emma is the soul for me, but I understand how and why people love her, but the ending of this season and Regina's loss hits me right in the heart, she deserved better

Justine Cbn 📽

Actually it wasn't a reproach about her character development but more an observation . For me what you point out - and I'm agree on all those elements - are more like Regina's era / phases , than fight against Darkness moments . In Storybrooke , I feel like there's more scenes with her literally fighting with her dark thoughts - and the sessions with Dr Hopper were a clever idea to show that . But again , I adore her character and I quiet agree on the fact that she carried the show , my take is that I feel like initial villains carried OUAT with their journeys to become better persons .

Nicole Heslinga

Yeah I totally get how Regina isn't everyone's fave and the show was meant to center around Emma so she's the soul for a lot of people but like after season 3 her story just becomes kinda bland for me? Maybe it's just my massive crush on Regina though like she just makes every scene she's in SO much better and always stays like a really interesting character!

Nicole Heslinga

I love the dynamic between Emma and Regina though, like I'm so sad they didn't have tons of scenes together this season, in season 1-3 we saw their relationship grow so much, I miss that!

Dhalia Swann

I don't know if I agree with Regina and Emma's stories revolving around men, it sometimes feels like the men's stories revolve around them, but whichever way it's a fair opinion I do agree about Belle though. I'm not fond of her because it is literally Belle reacting to Rumple and being surprised by Rumple's behavior when he literally reverts to his lying asshole ways in every season. They tried to insert a new love interest but it on;y lasted five seconds before Belle was all about Rumple again. Belle is a girl who has never had a healthy relationship (I'm not counting Will because that was barely a relationship) and every time there is a glimmer of a story for her that doesn't involve Rumple she is sucked right back into that black hole, it was almost like they didn't think she could exist without him. My favorite season for Belle is 6 because I love the friendship she develops with a certain other character. We had glimmers of it in the second part of season 4, but it kind of just vanished for a while Belle is such a nonentity to the writers that she is not even at the wedding of two of her closest friends Sorry for the rant lol

Dhalia Swann

They do have a unique and engaging dynamic. Their friendship, despite how it started and all the drama, is one of the purest things in the show. The evolution from enemies to frenemies to friends to family has always been something I love )also, thank you for not judging me for saying Regina is not my fave, you'd be surprised how much shit people have given me for that in the past x)

Nicole Heslinga

Yeah their little family and friendship is so unique! Noo ofcourse not, as a Swan Queen shipper who was on tumblr back in the day I've seen how toxic this fandom can be. Like it's totally normal and even more fun that everyone has different favorite characters and ships! 😄💕

Melody L.

@Kate Baro, I cant find your reply anymore, but to answer your question, I did watch but stopped when Emma became the dark one... because I was disapointed of how the show took the easy route.

Lisa Vanselow

So glad this half of the season is over. The second half is so much better. But I enjoyed rewatching it with you. Sometimes when I rewatch the show I skip the first half of season 5 so I didn't remember much of what happened.

Alecia Bateman

It’s becouse the actors couldn’t come back for various reasons for example Jefferson couldn’t come back because the actor got the marvel movies. They were going to do more episodes with him but he had to leave.

DazzleFae

That’s a good reason for some, but when main characters had their stories just totally ignored there’s not much good reason for it really…

Nicole Heslinga

Hmm I definitely do agree with you on that too though. I appreciated hook in season 2 and 3 but in season 4 he didn't really have his own story and just followed Emma around, such a shame cause he's an otherwise interesting character! I think with Regina I just liked her redemption arc and finding her family and being a better mom for henry more interesting then her love story with robin, even tho I like how happy he makes her. It just felt like a big shift between season 1-3 and 4-6 like how it was about these two women at first and their rivalry, friendship and family instead of their love lives IDK 😂

Nicole Heslinga

Right?! I still love Belle but her going back to rumple every damn time angers me hahaha. Oooh I don't remember season 6 too well I think, I usually quit my rewatches when the frozen season starts hahaha. Omg yeah her not being there for her friends important moments is weird! Noo don't be sorry I love ranting and chatting about ouat I could do it for hours! 😂

Astoria

I think Emma couldn't be ever as dark as Rumple was because of the "we suck every darkness out of her and give it to another baby" thing Snow and Charming did. She has no darkness in her, so there isn't any breeding ground for it like it is in everyone else. plus she is the savior as well. So everything dark she has done is already the darkest she could. it shouldn't be called dark swan arc but rather grayish swan with black shading. One thing you always have to keep in mind is that Rumple doesn't do anything without a reason.

Zach Davis

5b here we come! And ingrown toenail? Lmao

Tiffany Torres

I also have spoilers/rants ahead (sort of?).. Also, I don't know how to get my stars straight, so deal with it! * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * This last part of the season has some of my least favorite plots i understand they needed ratings (if that's the reason they did it to begin with,)(idk if that was the reason or not), but come on, why at Regina's expense, There couldve been better ways to add to the show in my opinion !

Nicole Heslinga

Hahhah I love the wonkey stars! And totally agree with you, they can't seem to catch a break!

Dhalia Swann

Okay, glad I didn't put anything about the next part of the season, I don't like spoiling things for people lol

Savvy

At this point I feel like Audrey is purposely calling “Zelena”…”Zelen” just to troll / to bully her cause she hates her so much lol