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Dominic

FWENS WITH FWENS

Dominic

To be fair this storyline only happened because Lisa Kudrow was pregnant in real life so they had to write it in but it’s actually very on brand for Phoebe to do lol. Also yea I feel like since they bet their apartment and like Monica said they would’ve made them get rid of the duck and rooster so they have to give up the apartment it’s only fair lol

m

Literally my fav post of every week can’t wait to get home for friends with fwens🤓🤓

🐣 marisol 🌻

Fun thing, some hens do crow especially if there is no rooster present. I've always loved this Phoebe plot, it's just so in character. I meant to say this last week but I don't find this whole plot that off putting because, while I personally find it a tad uncomfortable, I think being a surrogate for family members is kind of common or at the very least I've heard enough real life cases to desensitize me 😅.

Erwin 𐚁

The few people I know in my life who used a surrogate was through a sibling.

Erwin 𐚁

The closest thing to betting for friends is Texas Hold Them haha

Savvy

Technically Phoebe is just their Aunt, even if she is birthing the kids. Her eggs are not involved in the baby making (the other woman's egg are being put inside her), so she is just the incubator. So genetically, there is no issue! But I totally agree that her brother's relationship with the teacher is really really weird, and feels very inappropriate. The most i've ever bet was a soda or who buys lunch or who makes dinner lol, things like that. I would never bet more than that.

Heida

I have never made a bet in my life. This is a classic Friends episode and it's on so many favourite episode lists. The whole game was so fun. "He's a transpon—transpondster!" "THAT'S NOT EVEN A WORD!" Cracks me up every time 😂 And yeah, Phoebe is just the baby's aunt and birth mother, not the biological mother. It's Alice's eggs. But yeah, it's weird and creepy. I do agree with other commenters who say it's on brand for the character to do though. Btw, Chandler's official job description is "statistical analysis and data reconfiguration". What that actually means is another question altogether. Fun fact: They re-did the test scene during the anniversary special (which I definitely recommend after finishing the series) by incorporating questions regarding the show.

Van Evans

Yeah, the relationship between Frank and Alice is not okay. The surrogacy via sibling thing is normal and happens all the time though. None of Pheobes genes are involved, she's literally just the oven, so she is still 100% the baby's aunt. The medical inaccuracies are played for laughs but it drives me nuts 🤣. I see quite a bit about fertility and IVF/IUI/AI/surrogacy just because of the stage of life I'm in and the community I'm part of. The earliest I've ever seen someone get a positive pregnancy test after a transfer is 9 days. They usually tell you to wait 10-14 days. No I've never lost a bet, but I've also never really bet on anything so there hasn't been an opportunity 🤷

m

I thought the cast on the reunion confirmed that we never found out what chandlers job was?

m

no surrogates have no dna connection to the baby and it is normal for sibling to carry the babies, because most people want someone they trust also ik sometimes gay couples will have their siblings carry, but surrogates are implanted so none of their dna is in the baby.

Jade

I agree that Frank and Alice's relationship is questionable and a bit weird, but a huge part of Phoebe's character is that she was homeless & had no family her whole life, so it's no wonder she'd do anything for her newfound brother. Like other people have said, I'm pretty sure it's fine to carry your brother's baby as a surrogate, as none of your genetics are used during the conception part.

Ava Koppenhoefer

I’m definitely Rachel in this competition 😂 I get loud when I get competitive

Annie Willow

So Phoebe is actually their gestational carrier and no surrogate. A gestational carrier shares no DNA with the embryo/s being implanted while a surrogate is also the egg donor. So while it would be highly unethical and probably illegal for her to be her brother’s surrogate, there are no legal issues with her being their gestational carrier. It’s really the same as if they weren’t related at all. Like Phoebe said to the embryos, she’s just their uterus for 9 months. Family gestational carriers are becoming more and more common, also.

Annie Willow

Also I was yelling “Chanandler Bong!!!”

Heida

Yeah but even they forgot 😂

m

oh lmao

Alex Foster

Im not much for betting myself. So never lost more than a tenner at most likely. Ive never really seen the appeal of it all personally. I lose most of my money through impulsive shopping habits 🤣

Kyra Denise Alston

It definitely was on brand for phoebe. I love when it comes up over the seasons because of other people’s reactions to it is so funny - similar to ours

Clara Gros-Louis

This is my favorite episode of the entire show, I can't count how many times i've rewatched it!