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#JusticeForLifeOfAShowgirl (Patreon)

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Zainab Alqallaf ✨

We love you!!! 🥹🧡 yes we need more positivity this album is a great album and only the real fans will love it and appreciate it, but all the fake Swifties, and the haters are so loud like if you hate it it’s fine why are you commenting in every relating video about it and spreading hate around the Internet your reaction was priceless I love you sm been a fan for you channel 4 years ago since YouTube 🥹❤️‍🔥❤️‍🔥

Alen Kingston

Thank you. I freaking love this album and I think it’s her best ❤️‍🔥❤️‍🔥❤️‍🔥❤️‍🔥

Jennifer Lawrence

I've seen a ton of not just discourse over the album, but mean comments overall towards Taylor. I've never considered myself a Swiftie, but, I'm not s fan of bully culture. So, I may get protective over her as I would anyone else. I don't ever expect every bit of media to suit my tastes. It's just how it is. But, I'm capable of saying "Hey, this just wasn't for me and that's okay. I'm happy other people enjoy it!" and moving on. Opinions are subjective and no piece of media is going to suit 100% of the audience it reaches. What especially hate is when people use tearing her down to build up other artists they're bigger fans of. Which absolutely doesn't need to happen. You can absolutely be a fan of a group or an individual artist without having to turn into a huge bully whenever something happens in the music charts that you don't like. Or an album sells more copies/breaks a record. Or a music video gets more/less views. It's okay to have feelings and preferences. But, we can be understanding and respectful with how we express them. With stan culture (especially stan culture) I've seen some ABSOLUTELY UNHINGED things online. Including escalation into death threats and threats of violence over artists people are diehard over. Things I'll just absolutely never understand or be a part of. When that happens people seriously need to take a step back. Remember, the comments and posts you see are made by actual people. Some you're going to agree with and some you won't. You don't have any control over that. What you do have control of is your own actions and reactions towards them. Maybe for a second put yourself in someone else's shoes. Would you enjoy having those things said to you?

Jennifer Lawrence

Also, thank you for addressing this and getting a conversation going! It's a conversation that needs to happen. Even if not everyone enjoys it or agrees with you.

Samir

Since this is a safe space, I’ll admit I’ve never been a Swiftie. I like some of her songs but funny enough I only connect with them more when someone else sings them. Like I get so many emotions when Santana sings Mine to Brittany on glee but when I heard Taylor’s original, I didn’t feel anything. And I don’t think it’s just about my love for those characters either because as much as I love Santana’s Back to Black, nothing compares to what I feel when Amy Winehouse sings it herself. Some of the criticism I heard lately is about her using AI generated art to promote her album, which some would argue is ironic given how hard she fought to own her music and ai is trained by stealing the work of real artists without consent. She could definitely afford to hire real artists, especially when AI is putting so many of them out of work and harming both the art world and the environment. I’m genuinely curious how Swifties feel about that. I promise I’m not trying to hate I just find it an interesting and kind of complicated topic. Please don’t hate me, I just wanna hear some opinions on this if anyone would like to share 😂

CCCh

as an ari stan i feel like these successful womens gets so picked on and its honestly sad. i don’t really like the album but it doesn’t mean i’ll get out of my way to bring negativity around her, and tear her down. i truly wish her well, and as for us fans the best is to distance ourselves and not engage with this type of content. i remember during the ari hate train, it like ruined my week to see how people talked about her… so take care !!

Jonesy96

1. You look fabulous! :) 2. I completely agree with what you have to say. I think that art obviously brings on subjective opinions, and some people are going to love the album (like myself) and others are not, and that's totally okay. The thing with Taylor is that some people are soooo mean when it comes to giving their "feedback". A lot of people will go into listening to her music with their mind already made-up about it, and not giving it a chance. It's so sad that Taylor's music gets soo much hate, when she is genuinely such an amazing and honest artist. I'm glad you posted something, and I loved hearing about the person posting such a well thoughtout answer about why they didn't like it, and how it's connected to experience. :) This album is INCREDIBLE, and this is the happiest I've ever heard Taylor through her music! I think the reason why I love this album so much (I'm 28) is because I'm a lover girl, and want the things she's talking about. :) <3

William Shumaker

I wasn’t immediately in love with this album, but over 4 days of listening I can grow to appreciate like almost every song. The same was true for TTPD and now that album is my favorite album of all time I think. I think one thing that threw me was that most of these songs were not what I was expecting them to be, and I think a lot of hate comes from the fact that Taylor is such a versatile artist. Some people though, only like certain genres of Taylor and it’s incredibly frustrating to hear people devalue art because it’s not the same as their favorite song or album or even artist.

Alicia

It's not my favorite but it's fun!

SongsFromASuitcase

That’s an interesting question. I would love to hear her reasoning on it since I’ve seen so much media about how she treats all of her staff with kindness above and beyond. It’s an unexpected choice for her to use AI if she knowingly was taking away business from artists original work. Truthfully I’ve never thought about that when I use AI.

sav 🦋

i’m a HUGE swiftie and my first listen i had serious whiplash since after TTPD BUT I LOOOOOVE THE NEW ALBUM SOOO MUCH! i’m actually obsessed! it took me 2/3 full listens, and going to see the movie where she talked about the meanings helped so much too!!! at that movie they also played the lyric videos and immediately i memorized the lyrics and now im obsessed.

sav 🦋

all this hate has been making me so sad because she’s SO happy!

Andréa Christol

Sometimes is nice to do music just to have fun, not to be overthinking about everything

Wanda Smith

The main issue I have with the discourse of the album is that people can't just not like it, they want to feel morally superior for not liking it. I think we have a tendency to glamorize sadness, like sad songs are more meaningful and mature and that Pop music is inherently less intellectual than something like Folklore. Side note: Some people seem to think songwriting is just about lyrics.... it's so much more than that. It's how a song is put together. The melodies, the build, the ad libs and harmonies. Taylor isn't just a great songwriter because of her lyrics, she's also a great songwriter because she knows how to structure a song to make it engaging.

Renee Clarke

I'm 42 as well and I've been a fan (a Swiftie!) since Fearless. When I first listening to TLOAS, I was disappointed. I listened again and liked it a bit more. After seeing the release party movie, I have a much greater appreciation for it! I appreciate the maturity of the material she is singing about. She is a grown ass woman now, not a teenager. So it makes sense that she would write something like this now that she is in love and having the best sex of her life hahaha! It's not my absolute favourite, but there are now songs that I absolutely love and I walk around singing them. Or I notice myself dancing in the kitchen and realise that Opalite or The Fate of Ophelia is playing in my head. That's how I know it's good. I also don't get all the hate it is getting, but it's also top of the charts on all the listening platforms, so I guess people are definitely listening? 😆🤷🏼‍♀️

Renee Clarke

OMG I said I am also 42 and I've just seen you say that your favourite is Wi$h Li$t. Me too! I also relate to it so much. I even (from Australia) purchased the acoustic version of it on CD because I love it so much.

דניאל נגר

Im not really a swift fan, but i was lising to some of her songs here and there, i like the new it seems fun alltho i do think [as much as i know] taylor was usully more having songs of like heartbreaks and stuff so it makes sanse ppl didnt like that albom, i guess

Jennifer Lawrence

I've had that happen before with things. Sometimes I think I need a few listens before I fully form my thoughts. I don't always initially love something right away so I try to give things multiple chances. Especially as so many things including my mood on a given day can color my opinions.

Samantha Keenan

I wasn't a Swiftie back when Reputation came out (the pandemic folklore/evermore/midnights album pipeline was it for me as a mom with young kids just trying to fucking survive! and her TV rereleases made me love her older eras even more because the vocals were SO good) so I didn't really see the hate in real time of everything that went on back then, and just before it... but MAN. The discourse right now is out of control. Same stuff as before: she's calculated, manipulative, tone-deaf, selfish, not talented. And the thing that gets me the most? She got so much hate for TTPD (LOVE IT BTW I am a tortured poet trying to be a showgirl lmao) being "word salad" and "too much" and now they've flipped it and said her writing in TLOAS is shit and cringe and lazy. I'm hoping that Taylor is sticking true to her "don't read headlines about me" and is happy enough doing her to let this shit slide on by. I'm going to try to do the same, I'm gonna scream TLOAS at the top of my lungs while I work from home and ignore the haters and let them have their moment in the spotlight so that it can be over and those of us who love it can keep on keeping on. :) <3

Jennifer Lawrence

Absolutely this. Some people seem to make not liking something a whole part of their personality. Where it means they're better than those who would like.. what was a comment I saw? "AI slop"? Which just feels like throwing around buzzwords. I appreciate the people who at least be subjective with their opinions rather than the childish "I don't like this and it's stupid therefore anyone who likes it is stupid. Which isn't me therefore I'm better" mentality.

Lúcia Helena F. Quintella

I love so you so much for posting this. I don’t think I’ve seen so many haters listen to a artist they hate just to trash on the album. I don’t think everyone should love the album, but just like you said, be kind and respectful about it.

JD IHateItHere

This is a very thoughtful, professional and personal analysis. Thank you for daring to be honest and real and vulnerable and just loving art enough to put this out there. When listeners’ appreciation is negated because one does not share affinity for the art, that is where the deep polarization in society festers. Assigning political intent to a listener’s enjoyment or lack thereof or claiming enjoyers or haters are mid as human beings and that an album doesn’t rise to the needs of the times because it enables ICE officers (yes, I saw this online in a relatively safe space) is harmful to artistic freedom. I love Folklore and TTPD and Life of A Showgirl and Speak Now and Reputation. My politics is not relative to my joy at all of it. Neither is yours or anyone else’s. The music, vocals, and happiness of it is joyful, and I’m here for it as I have been in other Taylor iterations. Top tier music. Thanks for your post, Audrey. Dare to be authentic. You are a Showgirl, Babe. I also love Seven Deadly’s reactions, so his thought would be welcome. Suspect he may not love lyrics but will live music and still welcome the perspective. That’s Showbiz. ❤️‍🔥

sese w

Hi! Im glad that you enjoyed this album. I personally wasn’t able to get into it. I think the main issue people have is some of the rhetoric being spread in certain songs is sort of disrespectful and harmful for a person with as big of a following as she has (especially considering some of her actions as of late) I love pretty much every single album of hers and when I heard this one I was a bit thrown off. I don’t think the hate is necessary but in the most respectful way I also don’t think anyone is above criticism and that we can find a more effective way to discuss this. Maybe that’s just me seeing the situation a little differently because I’m a little younger but thank you so much for this! hopefully that made sense lol

Summer Cutrer Tierno

I am 42 also. I have been a fan since the very beginning. I think her older fans can understand and relate to her much better.

_theAJshow_

I’m 22. I joined the fandom after The ErasTour movie two years ago on October. I’m new as well. I used to be obsessed with One Direction so I was focused there and never really listened to other artists until I saw people making mashups of Perfect by 1D x Style by Taylor and loved it. I love everything she does and I’ve always admired her as an artist and respect her as she’s the own creator of her own music and even music videos. Artists usually follow their managers while she’s the boss and owner which makes me respect her even more. I grew up with this kind of music and this is why I love The Life Of a Showgirl. Maybe those people there were expecting breakup songs because they want to identify with it or whatever, but damn FINALLY AN ALBUM WITH ZERO BREAK UP SONGS!! A very happy album, different sounds and melody we’ve never heard from her. I love this change. I’m obsessed with Opalite. Finally she’s in a very healthy relationship and the lyrics say it all. People expect her to be that tortured poet she’s been for the last 5-7 years and now that finally that unhinged Taylor is back, they hate it because they can’t stand her happiness. I’m happy she doesn’t give a fuck anymore. What makes me mad is that people credit her ex for writing a couple of melodies or lines in her previous albums which is pretty misogynist in my opinion crediting a man for her own work and preceding sayin Travis is a bad muse… She’s the one creating those ideas, not them…. I will always stand for Taylor and honestly I really love the album since I first played it and already memorized a few songs by now😂🤷‍♀️ As a musician myself too, I appreciate when artists explore different lyrics. Then they complain if others say her music sound the same which is bullshit

_theAJshow_

At the end they hate her for being a successful woman who’s successful in every aspect of her life: album records, masters back, tour records and also she’s engaged. They hate it…. Will you react to the Jimmy Fallon interview or the Zane Lowe one? She explains things about the album there

Dev M

you should watch the interviews she's been doing this era! she's really an unbothered queen. her short interview with Zayn Lowe in particular was very insightful. I didn't love the album but that one made me realize she's being very calculated about the albums she's putting out and keeping an eye on legacy to make sure there's an album for literally every phase in your life. I think she's really looking at the bigger picture so it doesn't bother her if there are mixed reviews. I think the reason a lot of people didn't like it is that her fandom is mainly liberal women so her singing songs like cancelled and wish list just don't sit well and alienate a large part of her audience which is young women. wish list from the perspective of a billionaire who does indeed wear expensive designer clothes and jewlery (like girlie pop obviously the money does matter to you or else you wouldn't be where you are lmao and that's ok! but don't pretend that you don't care about it 😭), and cancelled from a billionaire who was been seen with some very questionable company doesnt sit right with some crowds. other reasons for not liking it are just expectations - people expected folklore x 1989 and got disappointed when the album didn't deliver (and you know that if that was the case then the criticism would be that she recycles old ideas 🙄). the noise is always loud during the beginning of an album but people will change their mind with time. no one liked midnights or TTPD when they first came out either. I also didn't love the album and it won't be a fav for me but I do think that it has a lot of fun songs and catchy melodies and there are some good songs on there!

Jackie Lehman 💅🏼

It definitely did not sound like how it was discribed... (But I DO love it) But some of the stuff going around is WILD. I'm also 42 and have been through this backlash before... So it's just another round of it for me... Some days it's so exhausting being a Swiftie. 💕✌️✌️

Natalia Silva

Oh, I love, love, love your take on it!! I completely agree with you! When I first heard the album, I was disappointed, because I think a lot of the talk of the fans about the album being produced by Max Martin was about how he had produced Britney Spears songs, so I expected something more along the lines of the musical style. Still, talking to friends, I started to think how this fits better with today's pop music. I had to refresh my mind and listen to it without any expectations about my idea of what the album "should" be like to appreciate it for real. I also cannot relate to any of the songs in a more profound way as I can with songs such as the prophecy and such, considering that's the period of my life I'm currently in and not being in love or in a loving relationship makes it really hard to connect with the sentiment behind this songs, but that does not mean the album sucks or that Taylor lost her way with words, because when you pay attention to it the liricysm we love so much in Taylor songs is still there, just using smaller words and more fun, happy, lovey dovey clothes.

Amanda Perez

Art is soooo subjective. You are so spot on.

Becca

I get the whole billionaire and tone deaf thing, but like Audrey said in the video, she worked her ass off and now she just wants time with Travis to start a family because that’s the newest thing she learned about herself. I’ve seen what others have said about how she’s bragging that she can have all of those things, and she can. But now, she wants a family, and she should get what she wants like any other person. People can’t separate her from her money anymore and it’s sad to me. “She could be doing so much more with her money “ when people don’t even know what she does with it. And if they did and she announced she was donating to xyz charity, they would say she’s bragging about donating and she should do it quietly. Taylor swift cannot win no matter what she does because everyone has an opinion. Her answer about the album and the chaos and opinions on it makes her the showgirl, and the album is what she was feeling during the European leg of the eras tour. Is it less sweat and the rawness of finishing the show and more “I was falling in love again and this is how I feel”? Yes, but it is still her life as a showgirl within the last 2 years. I’ve also been thinking that people may not like this album as much because it’s missing the tension in the songs and feelings that most of her other relationships had that she doesn’t necessarily have with Travis. No reaction to art is necessarily bad, but the way some people express those feelings by saying the album is dumb or the people that like it are dumb or whatever else is the problem. It invalidates a whole group of people that relate to this album, and if I were young, I’d be influenced into not telling anyone that I like Taylor swift, because I did it during Red and I was like 24. I didn’t listen to 1989 through midnights because I let other people tell me how I felt about Taylor swift because I didn’t want to be “dumb”. Some people just want to be “cool”, and we’re just inherently not. I’m glad there are people that aren’t influenced out of liking something they like because the world doesn’t want them to, like I did 13 years ago.

Nicole Heslinga

As a more casual 'fan' with no idea what to expect from this album, I really loved it! It usually takes me 2 or 3 times listening to all the songs to fully appreciate them, but that goes for any album/artist honestly. I love the more happy/positive vibes of this album, like go Taylor you deserve to be happy and in love after working your ass off to get here! I've definitely got some songs stuck in my head often already and will be enjoying listening to this album on my way to work! 😄🧡 Like honestly I love Taylors music because she has songs for every mood! Sad? Ttpd, fall is coming? Folklore/evermore on repeat! Happy vibes? Lover/life of a showgirl! 🔥🔥

Dev M

I get that! but I do think there is opportunity for nuance and we should be allowed to criticize our favourite artists because no one is perfect. the discourse online is very obviously people going crazy and jumping on the bandwagon which has been happening for a few years now, it happened with TTPD too, it's just what the internet does with Taylor swift. but there's also real criticisms and I think that's important as well because it's what allows artists to grow. I'm not saying Taylor should be doing more with her money or anything - but there is some messaging in her songs that doesn't align well with her audience and that's a fact. I think there is genuine criticism to the fact that for someone who wrote wish list she sure is releasing a lot of variants that are "limited edition" and "only available for 24 hours" and have like one extra song or demo. no one is being forced to buy it, that's true, but it's still promoting overconsumption. those in my opinion are genuine criticisms, which we are allowed to do for our artists. plus the album as a whole as been more inconsistent than her usual works and the theme of the album both sonically and lyrically isn't really consistent (especially in the middle tracks) - and it's ok for us to feel that way! not every album will be her magnum opus or the best album she's ever written, and we won't love everything she puts out (there's gotta be a least favourite haha or else there wouldn't be a favourite). and there can be people who disagree with me and say she is being on theme and that's ok too because art is subjective and we see what we want to see (re: zayn Lowe interview lol). I might change my mind in a few weeks or even years, who knows. I already like it more than I originally did! the problem with the internet is that people either love her or hate her, and their opinion is the "right" opinion and everyone else is wrong. that's the part that's an issue because it doesn't allow for discussions like we're having right now. like I don't agree with ppl who say this is her worst album or her career is over, or it's ai written or whatever either - it's overall a decent album with some great story telling in some of the songs. everyone has such a black and white opinion on things nowadays that it's become frustrating to watch

Lieslix

You nailed it. I am a "Swiftie" so to call - since the Midnights Album. I truly loved it and also (and through your videos!!) got to like her more and more. BUT I expected another "Midnights" Album as she released TTPD - and it totally wasn't. It also did not match my mood that I had at the time where she released that album. Also wasn't expecting so much sad songs and dark songs. I have some favorite songs on TTPD but have still not listened to the "2nd Part" of the album yet! So, I am happy that she now made a total happy album and also have some favorite songs on that, too. I still love her as a person but also for MY taste its not my favorite album. :-)

Jeanette Dawe

I loved it,I don't understand the hate it gets.

Brianna

You should listen to some of her radio and podcast appearances she did for the roll out.. even if you don’t react to them, it’s worth a listen because she talks exactly about a lot of what you mentioned! About art being subjective and her albums finding her fans at the times they need them based on their life experiences. I totally agree with you, the hate isn’t warranted!

Annie

this album is so good. the internet is mad. rage sells, but we are happy and vibing to all 12 of these glorious songs!

Selma Jabr

That was my comment so thank you for appreciating my dislike.🫣 To add on to it, respect goes both ways. To the non-Swifties, we don’t have to act all superior for not liking her music and remember to not make our hate turn into sexism. Because she definitely would get less hate if she was a man. She wrote a whole song about that. On the other hand, Swifties don’t need to act all superior for liking her music. They can’t call people dumb or stupid because someone does not like her music. (But that’s more of an issue on other social platforms, not here) I don’t think her lyrics are that hard to understand, I just don’t care for them. I’ve literally been attacked via the internet by Swifties because I had a constructive criticism about Tayler once. It’s also good to remember that no one is above criticism. Especially someone who is white in an immensely large position of power and money. There are plenty of reasons as to why people don’t like Tayler, it’s not just because we hate a powerful woman. Non-Swifties need to let people like what they like, Swifties need to let people not like the same things with many valid reasons.

Sammy

This album speaks to us millennials who grew up and have families and want to slow down, because something happens as you mature and watch your children grow up or just life happens to you in general (even without children), you discover what is really important. People are missing this with this album. Finding someone to love that you want to make happiness with (we choose to make a relationship work and sometimes you have to make your own sunshine), boss up, settle down, stop trying to hustle and be cool, and just realize that everything you wanted is right in front of you. Someone doesn't like you, that's okay, let it be flattering that you take up so much space in their brain. True friendship means loving people through the good, the bad, the ugly and learning to be a true friend means learning to hold judgement and leave space for people to make mistakes. Just so much of this are actually things you learn a little later down the road. Raising your family, breaking cycles, and making your beautiful life is what it is really all about. Then on top of that its not just making this beautiful life but learning to sit in it, love it, laugh and be cheeky, have sex, be loud, be cringe, be yourself and soak up every moment. You only get one. I know the criticisms are that she is being cringy and not lyrically creating what she did on TTPD, but she really did tell us a beautiful story and she did let us in, just did with a little more sparkle, a little more humor, because she's finally fully herself. All of herself. Free to be dorky and cute and HAPPY and loyal and to be loved. I know this was an essay, but this album just has resonated with me. I am a daughter from a home that crushed me and I have had to figure this life out and raise my three kids and I am 35 years old like her and I just get it. Because I just recently was able to realize that all of this fighting for a life I thought I should have, when I have a beautiful life right in front of me and I can be happy if I want to be. It is also musically and vocally some of her best work.

Kylie S

I've been a swiftie since the beginning and I'm 27. I agree with most of the opinions shared in your video and in the Patreon comments, and I really only have 1 thing to add (especially because I know a lot of your followers start their messages with "I've never been a swiftie but..." My gripe here is the older (long-time) fans not being good role models. I really like when you were saying it's important to ask yourself why you like this song over that one and really dive into what they mean to you. The swiftie community has exploded in the past few years, but I always have an eye for those who have been around, and it's usually because they're quieter. They think opinions like these - that if you don't like the album, you say so in one sentence and you move on with your life. We've been through enough of her music that all of us have come to that point. However, older swifties aren't moderating the younger / newer ones well with this release. With TTPD, there definitely was a lot more gatekeeping because it was so lore dependent, and we got really good at saying "well you just don't get it, and that's ok". But I fear that now whenever Taylor says she's going pop, people think everyone should love it or it's bad. And while pop definitely has to have a certain type of universal quality, her fans (especially newer ones) REALLY believe it needs to be writing. And sometimes our girl just wants to be corny and point far too many fingers at a piece of redwood! She's always been like this! But what I've been seeing is a lot of people saying "I've been here since x album and 1989 is better and here's why". I'll admit, I love a good in depth analysis of Taylor's work (my current obsession is the Swiftologist and his podcast) but that doesn't mean I'm out here telling people what they should and should not like. Personally, I really like honey! The Swiftologist's first reaction was "Taylor, there's no way you've ever been in that bar situation." I said ok and moved on with my life. Do I think he's right? Well maybe for her later career, but I think it could've happened earlier on when she was smaller. But I'm not about to fight that point, because it doesn't matter! What matters is the idea of taking something that used to hurt and allowing someone else to use it and make it better. And it's that kind of openness - the imma let you rock but I'll be leaving now - that the older swifties used to be really good at showcasing, but just aren't right now. I hope it gets better with time, because of course songs like Actually Romantic and Cancelled and Wood are always going to make headlines first (and were likely included for that very reason!) but eventually the dust will settle and people will cherry pick their favorites and we'll ALL move on with our lives. Sorry about the long post, I kind of just kept typing. I love your content and am very glad you're speaking up about these things!!! 🧡🩵🫶🏻

Kylie S

Also I just want to add that I called it! The moment I heard this album, I was like "My vocal coach is going to love this!" 😂 The expression she's sharing with us is very Lover-coded.

Laura carter

For me personally I think the life of a showgirl is a really great album that expresses her life over the last however many years in such a way that it feels very unique and emotive in her style whilst keeping it modern enough for her younger fans and while ‘wood’ and ‘actually romantic’ may not be for me personally I respect her choices to make those songs and other people’s choices to listen and love those songs. We all have different tastes and that for me is what makes it fun and an adventure.

Selma Jabr

Also, a lot of the people who are critical of this album and some of the choice lyrics in it are black women and POCs in general. If multiple POC people have an issue with something or someone, and have for many years, it’s worth listening to what they have to say.

Madeline Goble

My problem with wi$h li$t, and I think it’s the problem a lot of people have with the song is it comes off tone deaf. “They want that yacht life, under chopper blades They want those bright lights and Balenci' shades.” I’m like Taylor why are you acting like you don’t already have that lifestyle… you have eight homes worth millions of dollars, a private jet, and you are decked out head to toe in Gucci and Louis Vuitton. “Got me drеamin' 'bout a driveway with a basketball hoop” Taylor can pay for an entire basketball court in her house… “They want those three dogs that they call their kids” I’m thinking Taylor you do the same thing with your three cats.

Flutterguy

I haven't really listened to her since Love story because the massive tone shift of her music. However one of my friends who is a massive swiftie convinced me to check out life of a showgirl and it is incredible how much the songs radiate how much happier she is now. I love the album so much I even went to the final day of the release party in the theaters.

saad

well im not a taylor swift fan, and all im gonna say is that t his album didnt change my mind, she sounds happy tho

Lizel

I get it. TTPD is not for everyone. It was an enormous trauma dump that we didn't expect. It was something some of us needed so we love it. Me personally, I am not a fan of baby Taylor. I never listen to Debut, Fearless and Speak Now unless I hear it by accident out in the wild or on the internet. I hope this confession will not get my Swiftie-membership card revoked.

Even a Frozen Heart Can Melt

For additional context, she wasn’t directly involved with the AI usage. It was likely used in videos put out by Google/YouTube, but they were never shared by TS or her team. The question of whether she knew about them or could have had more say in what was ultimately put out is valid, but to me she feels quite removed from this situation. I also wonder if other artists would be scrutinized to this extent. It’s not like she used it in her music video, these are seconds long promo videos from Google. To be fair, in general I do think people put unrealistically high demands on TS, so I may be a little sensitive to that as well in this case, but I did just want to add in that context, because I think it’s important!

Even a Frozen Heart Can Melt

I don’t think she’s really saying anything with the three dogs comment tbh. She said they deserve what they want etc… Imo all she is saying is that she doesn’t care about what everyone else wants, everyone can just do them, all she cares about is being happy with herself/her family and relationships. Several artists sing about having a fancy lifestyle, so it seems unfair to criticize TS on this unless you criticize all of those artists as well. It just feels like there’s a lot of overthinking and scrutinizing when it comes to this album and TS’ lyrics/words/actions vs other artists, which I think is unfair and begs the question of “why?” yk? What does she really do that warrants all of it? I think she’s certainly human and no one is above criticism, but it’s the amount she receives and over what? It’s just disproportionate imo.

Lizel

The AI stuff was one small part of the album rollout. As part of a treasure hunt-style promo, Taylor challenged her fans to find 12 “orange doors” spread across 12 cities and scan accompanying QR codes. These codes unlock short videos which gives clues in solving a larger "puzzle". I didn't pay much attention to it because I'm way too old and too busy. It did however come across my Instagram feed throughout the day that it was going on and it looked like the younger Swifties were having so much fun with it. I don't know nearly enough about the entire subject of AI but I would hope that Taylor will take fans' concerns to heart and do better next time. Taylor is someone who responds positively to constructive criticism.

Bison Matt

Audrey, I just want to take a minute to thank you for your wisdom and insight. For someone like you with a large following and a good-sized platform, it is so powerful to hear these words from you. As you said, it's simple... but only if one puts in the effort to understand their emotions and discover that those emotions don't influence the art, rather let the art influence us and maybe even challenge a predisposed opinion that we may harbor. If this project/era doesn't evoke the emotions that you want, then there will be another one that likely will - OR this one may eventually do that for you down the road of life. I just really enjoy your calm, constructive approach to these types of conversations. That definitely comes with age. Man, I love being in my early 40s for this very reason. There are so many bad things in this world that deserve our attention and energy. A pop star's album is not really where that energy is best spent. Thanks for being a positive voice to help lead us through life more thoughtfully, with intention. I've been subscribed to your Patreon since around the time your journey began with Taylor. Came for the vocal analysis and stayed for your lyrical breakdowns, your open heart, and your kindness. Love ya!

Erwin 𐚁

I wouldn’t say the general public’s reaction is much different than her last few studio releases. I did however get a sense from some of the fans that the album didn’t meant their expectations when it came to the theme/concept of the album or the lyrics/writing.

Azure R.

Personally, I am not a Taylor Swift fan. I liked some of her earlier songs but as a whole I never really vibed with her or her music. Now, one of my best friends is a massive Taylor Swift fan. To the point that I can tell some Taylor Swift songs just from the first second or two, but I don't go out of my way to listen to her and my friend understands and respects that. But what I feel a lot of people tend to forget is, like you said, art is subjective. A group of people can all listen to the same album or go to the same art show together at the same time, and everyone in that group is going to have different thoughts and opinions about it. Some of them may be similar, and some may be completely different. And that is okay. Like I love Florence + the Machine, but if someone tells me they don't like them, that's fine. At the end of the day other people's opinions about an artist or their music doesn't impact me or my life at all.

Erwin 𐚁

I will say the shocking backlash is coming from critics- they are usually very nice to Taylor post Folklore and the re-recordings. But her metacritics scores (average of publications’ reviews) have gone down. TLOAS - 69 TTPD - 76 Midnights - 85 Evermore - 85 Folklore - 88 It’s clear the hardcore fans will buy and stream the album but Taylor does also care about acclaim and recognition from the industry.

Natalia Lopes

Agree! Taylor said in an interview that wish list is literally that, it’s the wish list of different people and in the chorus it’s her wish list….she is not dissing the things that other people want, she is merely acknowledging that different people want to achieve different things in their life and having a couple of kids and a house with a basketball hoop (which to me is to represent growing her family and having a home with children in it, not the monetary physical house…but rather what that represents)

Natalia Lopes

I love wood! I find it so witty and funny….i don’t love honey because I think the production is a little repetitive and at times throughout the song I want a break from the beat that’s throughout. I still jam to it though cause it’s a good song regardless. I honestly couldn’t choose a favourite song because they are so good in their own merit.

Natalia Lopes

I am also a long time swiftie and 27 yrs old! I definitely agree with you….in fact I am one of the people that doesn’t moderate the new swifties, mainly because I don’t like confrontation and am an introvert 😅 I do it in person if someone talks to me about it but not on the internet lol I tried watching the Swiftologist but I didn’t love how they described Wood as being super cringy and other adjectives that I can’t remember right now especially when saying that Sabrina does it but better because like…she literally said “tears run down my thighs” but “his love was the key that opened my thighs” is too much? And some other off handed comments like the one you mentioned about Honey…idk, maybe I’m being too defensive on Taylor’s part but I just thought that was a little disrespectful when he doesn’t know the experiences she’s had? And like you said…sometimes she just likes being corny!! And as a Swiftologist should they know that already and just move on? Idk 🙃 sorry about the rant

Natalia Lopes

In a POC and I absolutely love Taylor and there are plenty of black women and POC that love Taylor too Lauryn King, Jaxson, the Bascome Twins, Favour, and Terry and Kaniyia, Beyoncé, Jay-Z, 50-Cent and plenty of other black and POC artists are some examples….i think it’s just what you are exposed to in the internet and what social media feeds you because of what it knows you will look at….plus Kanye and Kim fans because of all the controversy will hate because of it

Kylie S

Yes he can be particularly critical of her lyrics, I have the same kind of hyper-analytical humor he does so we find a lot of the same things funny or unfunny. It's the same point I made about Taylor's albums, some people love the positive vibes of Lover, and others were expecting something more adult than "spelling is fun!" Personally, I don't like Wood either. I can appreciate it's place in & on the album, but I'm not replaying it for any reason really. I'm also a very lyric-heavy listener though and I appreciated how she was able to weave in all the wood-related puns, but I just don't vibe with the song itself. As for the thighs line, I literally had the same thought and I really couldn't tell you why but I agree. Taylor doesn't really do sexy humor like Sabrina does. Taylor definitely has some sexier songs, but they're not her singles usually and they're also usually not her most popular. I think that comes down to what people remember the artist as, or what kind of need they fill. If I'm in the mood for sexy humor, Sabrina is always going to be my go-to, and there might be a playlist with one or two Taylor songs but that'd be it. Similarly, if I want something I can be sad to or cry to, I am looking at folklore, evermore, and TTPD, and there's maybe a shout out to a Sabrina song. Taylor just doesn't really do sexy humor for me, AND THAT'S OKAY!! I think what people forget is there's a lot of music out there. The swiftologist once said he hated people who would tell him to shut up and go listen to other music, and on a large scale I agree with his anger because SOMEONE has to be out there listening with the intent to give feedback. But I (and many other swifties) am not one of those people, so when I hear a song I don't like, I hide it from the playlist and move on. This also stems from my belief that the songs will speak for themselves. There's no point in defending a song vehemently because you're only going to push people away from your toxicity. Some of my favorite songs are Taylor's least popular, and a few that weren't even released as full songs from back in the early days. I think newer swifties are so used to Taylor being on top of the world that any sort of conflict is stressful which is why they lash out and defend or trash things so violently. It's a very all-or-nothing outlook that is very much the reason why we have But Daddy I Love Him. 🫠 My friend once said music is like a religion - you can't shoehorn someone into believing in a song they don't connect with. So we should all let Taylor be Taylor and either revel in her return to Lover form or wait patiently for her next project, which is assuredly going to be different from TLOAS. 🫶🏻

Starbuck1234!

Art is subjective of course. But there is something about Taylor where critics and general population love to knock her down. If the album isn’t as good as. The previous one, then it’s “the worst album ever made”. There is nothing wrong with this album. It’s just. That it’s Taylor and all of the sudden it’s news. They did the same thing to Reputation, TTPD. It’s like she is held to another standard. During Rep, the View discussed the new album. I’m sure none of them listened to it. They cherry picked a few lines like “I burry hatchets but keep maps of where I put them”. Which is a bar if anyone else says it. Later some journalists from prominent magazines came forward and admitted their editors pressured them to give a Rep a bad score. With TTPD, I found a lot of sites allow public to give scores; they were purposefully downgrading and then bragging about it online. One person bragged that his score of 0 changed the metacritic score. And I also noticed several magazine reviews actually reviewed her life not her work and accomplishments. Same outlets spent 3-5 paragraphs summarizing the past work of other artists like Beyonce but spent the same or more amount discussing Taylor’s private jet usage (Beyonce used more) or her fame, or her money, or her relationships, criticizing the title. I believe the NYT gathered actual poetry professors to go and say how Taylor wasn’t a tortured poet. Had they actually listened to the album & read the prologue they would have known that wasn’t what she was claiming. What other artist has to endure that? It’s a problem that needs to end.

Rory

I think this is definitely a big thing. The theme/concept doesn't seem to match the content. I think had she chosen something else that more aligned with the lyrics/writing people wouldn't be as disappointed in it. Like the imagery and concept of a showgirl evokes a certain vibe/sensation tonally/musically. I've seen several people point out that it's called the life of a showgirl but there's no brass section on any of the songs.

SongsFromASuitcase

Wouldn’t the “showgirl” brass section only align with a certain era of showgirl? I feel she more connected to how she is a modern showgirl.

Renee

I ABSOLUTELY LOVE THE ALBUM!!!! She's happy and in love and I think a lot of people don't like it I don't listen to folklore i like it but not for me I needed this album to get me out of the funk I Hate that people make me feel bad about liking it On FB I have been told im stupid and ugly because I said I love the album and its a no skip for me I have severe mental health issues and it made me really down

Rory

I definitely see how it makes sense with her connecting it to her feeling like a modern showgirl. I think it mostly comes from what most people associate showgirls with. Like even removing the brass section part of it I feel like some people were expecting something more theatrical (I won't say fun bc clearly people do find the album to be fun so I don't want to take away from that, but a different kind of fun. Like BIG. I don't know if that makes sense.) think like the version of Lady Marmalade that came out with Christina Aguilera in the early 2000s. I feel like that is closer to the vibe people might have been expecting from the album. Which I think is neither Taylor or the audience's fault. It's okay to go in with expectations and be disappointed when it didn't turn out quite the way one was hoping. Maybe some people will never return to the album, but maybe some people will and will even come to enjoy it or parts of it for what it is not what they thought it was going to be.

Tereza

I’m 23. And I started to be a swiftie last year with TTPD. It was my first album I listened from her. And I fucking love it. Not every song, there are some songs that I don’t listen. I saw a reactions of this album (Audrey’s of course). And then, this year, I think: “maybe I can listen others album”. So I listened Folklore and Evermore. And Oh my good !!! It hits me, only if I knew this in 2020… I have some mental issues and I just love these albums. I listened them every day and now i know the lyrics. All of them. I hear Reputation.. and it’s okay, i understand the message, lyrics, beat. But i don’t listen it on repeat. I don’t say it’s bad. It’s just not for me now. Now i’m listening Speak now. And also.. love it! But not every song. And it’s okay for me. I don’t know Fearless, Lover, Red, Midnights.. I want to enjoy one album, and then go to another. But i will listen to all of them. The life of the showgirl is for me awesome, but i enjoy more the beat than the lyrics. And it’s so refresing. Folklore is about lyrics, we know it. Even the Evermore, it hits me and i cry. But this album is just vibe. I listen it and enjoy the happiness. And i love it. I love that we can choose album what we want listen right know. If we want speed beat or slow music with deep lyrics. But if you don’t like it or don’t like Taylor, it’s okay too. It’s like with books, every person love different kind books, music is the same. Just find your music, your artist and enjoy life.

Lucy

Very very well said Audrey 👏 So my best friend and I have always shared a love for music since secondary school and we have both been able to talk about what we like ect without being unkind. She is not a swifty so I can't talkabout examples there but an artist we both love is James Morrison. Now she loves the song In my dreams as it about his father that died. Her dad committed suicide and she has a deep deep connection with this song especially the lines'I hope some day this pain I feel will fade, till then I'll wait,to see you again, in my dreams' as she lives that all the time. I liked the song and I cried when I found out what it was about but I don't love it as I feel no personal connection really there. However the song Power by him totally different for me as after I got sexually assaulted, for years I felt I had no power and I felt worthless. But through counciling ect I got there and when I heard the lines 'don't underestimate your power - your stronger than you know' and well fuk it your a woman now, you're stronger than you've ever been'. To this day if I need a happy cry or a pick me up I play that song as it resonates so boldly to me it's so incredible.

Griffin

Taylor never described how it would sound though, she only talked about how it was constructed. People made up in their minds what it would sound like, then were disappointed when it didn't match their expectations. The most we got about what it would sound like is "bangers!" from Travis.

B1ackW01f69

I think you explained things beautifully. More people like this please! I'm not a Swift Fan by any stretch of the imagination (personally not my kind of music and always sounded very repetitive). I'm more of a Ren and Dimash kind of person. The only thing I would say is her insane monetization troubles me. It seems VERY exploitative of the people she knows loves her! It seems a VERY poor way to treat ones fans!

Shonia Ray

I’m a 55yr old that have children who are very near her age.we also live in the Nashville area so that was my introduction to her from her debut album and have followed her career with a little time off here and there, but reconnected with her music through my daughter-in-law’s and probably before that, but we also lived in Kansas City and my youngest still does with his wife and soon to be granddaughter(due any day now)plus my giggle of nieces so I don’t think I’ve ever disliked her music but for the past five years I’ve loved everything reputation album one of my favorites but this one is my number one album

JD IHateItHere

Kind of what you said already so we’ll do well but Swifties who aren’t embracing this album lyrically and thematically could look at the title track’s advice : Hidden by the lipstick and lace sequins are forever combined with your softer than a kitten you don’t know the life of a showgirl and you’re never ever gonna….the refusal to allow this showgirl (Taylor) all her sides and facets is immature (not a slur but an assessment of experience) because humans are complicated. Their insistence the album is basic is contrary if the album is not looked at holistically. Refusal to consider this possibility is almost like a tantrum. So you don’t like that part of her…that’s okay. Does it destroy your appreciation of the whole? That’s unfortunate..you are sweet a a peach. Don’t look behind the lipstick and lace then. Meanwhile, let us bop.

Boy mom swiftie

MY FAVORITE ALBUM from her! The sounds are so nostalgic from me. I wanted strings and drums, and boy did she ever!

Erwin 𐚁

my thoughts after a few listens. tracks that are fun and I’ve gone back to: The Faith of Ophelia Elizabeth Taylor Opalite Ruin the Friendship Actually Romantic Honey The Life of a Showgirl Skips: Father Figure Eldest Daughter Wood Wish List Cancelled I was hoping for a pop banger, no-skip album and that’s just not what I got. Enjoyed a lot of the production but didn’t care for some of the lyrics. I did read some comments saying the lyrics are meant to be corny and unserious but that still doesn’t help me enjoy them more. Don’t care for “hip hop” Taylor that uses cringy language and cadences like in Wish List. I love the Jackson 5 sample on Wood but it’s definitely not one I can get behind lyrically. I’m seeing some comparisons to Sabrina Carpenter and what she does but this is not that. Somethings work for some and not for others. The album has some great highs and definite lows so I think that’s what the reception has been mixed overall. Either way girl is making those millions so you know she’s happy regardless.

Kabutar

I mean I can FEEL her happiness in this album. It made me so happy for her. Go Taylor!

Kate Wright

I was actually more engaged with Taylor Swift with Folklore because of the stories she was telling and the vibe of that album was so needed at the time. I am a couple years older than you and a late Swiftie as well. TTPD was not my favorite album of hers. And her early albums rank with TTPD. But this album took me back to a time when I LOVED music. Think Alanis Morsiette, Weezer, and a little Cake. This album took me back there lyrically and musically. It’s not a direct correlation, but the entire album just made me feel like I was in my music-loving era.

RuthGA

I'm 39 and a swiftie since 2008 and I LOVE this album! It was a beautiful album, I could relate to every song. I also felt it was fun and you could play different characters for every song. It's a vibe and lyrically cheeky, and although I like folklore, it is in my least played albums. I just can't be in a slow misty morning mood every day. I still think it's well written and deserved the Grammy for AOTY, but if I'm being honest I feel that way about most Taylor Swift albums lol. Yes, including Showgirl; I think showgirl deserves a Grammy.

Kathryn Burke

I love an interview she did saying that her albums meet people where they are. And there was a person that told her she didn’t like Reputation when it came out. But years later…. It became her favorite. It is ALL relative. You hit it spot on. Art is art. It can’t be good or bad. We love it or hate it based on where we are when we receive it. I’m 43 years old in Kansas City receiving Life of a Showgirl, and I can tell you it’s all good vibes here! Honey is my absolute favorite, buti know it was your least. In college I was engaged to a man who constantly cheated on me. I would get so angry when he called me honey! Convinced it was to make sure he didn’t call me by the wrong name. Fast forward… I became an unwed single mom, years later had a failed marriage, and just this year seeing my child graduate high school and go to college… I feel like I can breathe. On top of that I have a man friend that can call me whatever he wants, because he isn’t like the others. He treats me like I’m his dream come true. It just hits different.

Victor Colico

While I agree that sometimes you have to relate but it’s also interesting because I can’t relate to this album at all, yet I really, really LOVE it. I love it both sonically and for its unserious, cringy lyrics. I just love the fact how happy Taylor is right now and it really shows through in this album. Maybe someday I’ll relate to it… at least the happy parts. Unlike her I'm still at the table 🥺

Angela Joseph

MY RANKING : 1. Fate of Ophelia (Best song musically, lyrically, etc. No notes.) 2. Elizabeth Taylor (Love it.) 3. Opalite (This is such a sweet song. Clearly about Travis since his birth stone is an Opal. It's a fun kitchy pop song and I really like the sound even if it's different from her usual depression drama songs.) 4. Father Figure (Her dk really is bigger. Love this one. Feels good for the 'showgirl' theme, because she's talking about the showbusiness and having the manager she did. 5. The Life of a Showgirl 6. Actually Romantic (I really like this song and it's very cheeky. It's interesting sound wise. As for lyrics I hate the toy chihuahua line. Besides that I didnt even realize she had drama with Charlie XCX. I don't like that this is a diss track.) 7. Eldest Daughter 8. Cancelled (Catchy song and really fun to listen to. A little tone deaf given the current state of everything (Ironically one of her lines is "Tone deaf and hot, let's fuckin' off her"). Still "Did you girlboss too close to the sun" is my fav line. I always like the dark moody lines from TS.) 9. Wood (I like this song just enough. I won't lie it's a bop and I would dance to this song. It's this low on my list because the inuendos were too much for me personally. What can I say, I'm a prude. The redwood tree line was a fun reference to the Ariana fan post.) 10. Ruin the Friendship (Sweet song for her friend, but it's just another song about high school.) 11. Honey (This song did nothing for me. I always relisten to it just to remember what it sounded like. Forgettable.) 12. Wi$h Li$t (Worst song imo. Lyrically I really like it, but the song pacing is so odd. The words make sense but listening to it doesn't make sense.)

Shaunna Emmons

42 yo late blooming swiftie here too.

Wheeping13Willow

In my 50's at first listen to this album I can absolutely say I loved this album! As i listened to it I was dancing, moving, and I thought to myself this reminds me of 70's club music, I remember my older cousins getting ready to go out with friends in the 70's, they had music playing and I remember thinking i can't wait to be old enough to be going out dancing at clubs. This is what this album did for me, that was the first place my mind went to, I wanted to dance at clubs again, with my bad knees and all. I can also say I love TTPD for me it is my favorite album from Taylor. You asked what was my take on it was there you have it, both great albums for me, for different reasons. I agree with everything you said, not every album has to be for everyone. Thank you for your thoughts and post! ❤️🫶

Erica Alex

I AM IN LOVE WITH THIS ALBUM AND YOURE REACTIONS!! happiest CAPS lock intentions only! lol 😆 ❤️

jeffrey cseplo

I love this album ! First time finding Songs from a Suitcase the other day and laughed my ass off . So fun and hilarious watching someone’s first reaction to something and this made my day . 59 yrs old and was never a Swifty because I was older than most of her fans since I don’t have kids just never really got too invested. Always loved that young girls, tweens and young women growing into adulthood had someone like Taylor Swift . When I heard people coming at her and making comments about her like she’s some bad role model it pissed me off . I think she’s a perfect role model for today’s young people. Anyway, when this album was released I sat down and listened on YouTube and let the visualizer videos play through and couldn’t believe that I’d been converted into a Swifty at almost 60 . I get that people have opinions and that’s fine but it’s about respecting the work and accepting the art for what it is . It feels like Taylor has bookended her library of work and it seems to me perfect . Celebrating the end of the Eras tour and right into another body of work that shows where she is in life and she’s happy . She’s happy and healthy and ready to Boss Up settle down and that’s great . The songs flow beautifully. Some of the lyrics clearly show she’s a grown ass woman and it’s nice . It’s nice that she’s happy and she’s ready to get married and have a family . The way Taylor uses her voice and has grown is amazing. I think this album is fantastic and a lot of the drama just comes w the territory. I’ve become a Swifty overnight at almost 60 so maybe she’s a genius tapping into a market that was left somewhere in the middle . Thank you for the Excellent content . Love these visual reviews . Watching a reaction in real time is so fun. Love it . 😍

Windwarning

I think this is my favorite album. I love all the songs enough that I wouldn't change the channel. I am also older and get it more. She wants her HEA and has found it so she is thinking along those lines in her writing. Taylor said in an interview that what she writes may not appeal now but as you go through life it might appeal later and that's ok.

Hannah Alfred

I am 32 years old and love wish list as well! Money can’t buy the happiness only meaningful relationships can. I appreciate TTPD for her writing abilities, but honestly the album is soo sad. It makes me too depressed! I loved her first two albums when they first came out when I was a kid and then I kind of fell off the bandwagon when I was in late high school and college. I remember thinking she was cringy and annoying for a while (boy was I wrong!) and I was too cool for t swift lol! I remember thinking reputation was so weird, but now I love it! I hopped back on the wagon when Folklore was released and have been listening to all her albums, including the ones I had previously skipped, all the time now. I especially love lover too for the bops and happy vibes. Love reputation for working out. Love folklore for the unique storytelling and chill calm music. This new album has amazing music with real instruments and I appreciate that. It is so unique and fun. You can hear her happiness throughout and that classic tswift witt. I don’t love how graphic wood is sadly because I can’t sing it around my children or family freely 😝 But you do you Taylor! I don’t cuss at all and I appreciate how she puts a lot of effort into the non-explicit lyrics.

Hannah Alfred

Yes if she were a man, no one would think her more sexual lyrics were at all a problem.

Hannah Alfred

Absolutely love no break up songs!! I don’t want to be sad when I listen to music!

sese w

Respectfully, I think after that merch drop it’s clear what rhetoric is being spread. regardless of intent, the impact is there and it’s starting to go far beyond a carefree love album about how happy she is.

SongsFromASuitcase

OK, I’m holding onto this rent free in my mind that you became a Swifty over night at 60

SongsFromASuitcase

That would’ve been so much fun if you like to go dancing in the 70s!

SongsFromASuitcase

I guess I could see it on both sides of the purchasing power. I could see it as exploitation, but then that takes away the freedom of choice. Don’t people get to choose if they wanna buy it or not. I mean a huge advocate of making a difference with your dollar. If people didn’t buy all the options, then she wouldn’t offer all of the options. I kind of like giving them the choice if they want to or not.

Aiofe

The dog whistles were too much to ignore

passinthru

Okay, so a few thoughts. First, the core of this defense of TLOAS is that the dissatisfied listener is too inexperienced to appreciate it and also that art is subjective and thereby above criticism. I have trouble agreeing with either of these ideas. Age is not necessarily a signifier of experience or wisdom, and I think it is a bit insulting to young people who have faced serious hardship to say they have less wisdom due to some age barrier . You also tried to tie financial stability to age and suggest that reaching that point and valuing time more is also reflected in W$SHLI$T. You may feel that way but it is hard to see that reflected in the song. Swift has been at least a multi-millionaire for over 20 years. She could've stopped the bossbitch hustle any time by now, so I think the song is more just a focus on finding a person she wants to marry and live a more domestic life with, which is fine, but it isn't like she suddenly became wise or stable, so no real tie to age imo. If anything, the ideas in this album are very juvenile, in attitude not physical age. Particularly in the unwarranted "diss track" of Charli XCX where Swift is essentially saying "you are so obsessed with me that you must be gay for me lol." This doesn't strike me as the sentiment of a confident, experienced person. Many song here sound like somehow who's defensive, punching down, and trying very hard to make sure WE KNOW how happy and above the noise she is. As for art criticism, I'm not sure how you can put all art on an even playing field so long as it is labeled as art by someone. If I write a crappy play in without any real thought does it line up with Hamlet? Is it just as good? My 12 syllable lines in random meter that I claim is iambic pentameter is as good as Shakespeare's? I say no. I'd say it would be a bad play by comparison, and I think most would agree. In general, I've never been a fan, and I did not like the album, but there are aspects of some songs you can simply say objectively are bad. That other commenter you mentioned referred to the lyrics, so I'll focus on the Fate of Ophelia. Now, I'm aware that this song is a Swift rewrite of Ophelia from Hamlet, but in order to rewrite the character, you have to understand them as presented in the original text first. To say the the "you" (Kelce) saved her from the Fate of Ophelia by saving her from her tower of me, myself, and I is nonsense. Ophelia was abused by her father and Hamlet, both jockeying her to further their own ends with no regard for her. She went mad from it and ended he own life. The idea that she just needed the right man to come save her minimizes her plight. It ignores the systemic issue and turns her into any old damsel in distress, meaning Swift could've used any story with a damsel in distress waiting for the right person (Rapunzel would've made a lot more sense), but she didn't. She shoehorned Ophelia into the lyrics I guess for the name alone bc if you subbed in another name of any character who died tragically, the song would still have the same meaning. Ignoring the source material you're alluding to is not the same as rewriting, and it is an objectively poor use of Shakespeare. The fate of Ophelia was succumbing to death after losing all agency to men, so the Swift version being saved by a man is still the same lack of agency. It isn't that she didnt have the right man. It was that no matter the man, Ophelia had no choices or control. Not to be elitist, but I think the song skates by because of the hook and how long it has been for some since they studied Hamlet. You're knowledgeable about singing, if I sang a song totally off-beat with terrible pitch and told you it was great art, am I right? Am I as good as you are because my singing is art to me? As for some general feedback, it is a bit regressive to refer to Swift supposedly sleeping around as a negative. This smacks of slut shaming. Even if she were having sex with multiple partners, there's nothing inherently wrong with that. Lastly, the "media" is not a monolith. You refer to believing the media's take on swift as if the media is a single entity. It isn't. Media is just different channels of communication. Learning to reasearch and fact-check claims from different media sources is what matters, not some wholesale rejection of media by rule. So I'd say, you can like this album and you can dislike this album, but you can also point to enough evidence supporting poorly written lyrics and juvenile themes to say at least parts of it are objectively bad. If art can't be judged because anything can be art then nothing is art, and what are we all even talking about.

Daniel Saavedra

I think that what is really important, and sorry to flood your socials tonight, is recognizing the psychology of change. I love Taylor and she doesn’t have to prove herself to me, I’ve always listened to her music but she really became a big inspiration in my life when I watched Miss Americana. TTPD came at the perfect moment for me, I had new “toys” to play with for a long time because I didn’t like so many songs, but if you care enough to trust her process, you get the gift of her mind and talent. So, what I’m trying to say is that when I listened to TLOASG, I did not like 8 songs out 12. And I didn’t get on insta or whatever and shitted on her; I made the promise in my heart when I sang long live that I wouldn’t. Fast forward to today, there is not a single song that I do not like. First listen, I felt annoyed. That wasn’t the music, that was the change that I wasn’t prepared for. Fast forward, I’m bouncing and belting in my car and catching myself saying, damn Taylor thank you! Cause she made an innate impression in me that will never go away and she’s so talented in my eyes, ears, voice. My best friend passed in 2019, I listened to ruin the friendship ACOUSTIC on my way to class yesterday and I could not hold back a waterfall of tears (not very common for me) when I kept thinking that every lyric talked about a feeling I have suppressed since 2019- I appreciated my dead friend tonight in a way that was healing. Ruin the friendship was my least favorite song… was. The thought I had when I was dancing in my room the first night I listened to it was just how lucky I am to grow old with these songs that are going to remind me of memories I’m making with the soundtrack Taylor made for me. I wanted to drop this here because I find you to be incredibly inspirational as well, and this month has been so crazy on social media that it’s hard not to defend or say something. Sometimes some albums or songs aren’t for you, but she’s already given you so many to relate to. Father figure is my favorite, just because of “they don’t make loyalty like they used to,” in my world they don’t. I see her as a very intelligent person, woman, and I can base that off of the fact that her whole discography can play for over a day or so and how many verses she’s written perfectly for varieties of people. I throughly enjoyed your opinions, your vibes, and I’m happy I found you tonight!