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Hello, hello! Today we're exploring the alt-indie-girl beef that has taken the internet by storm this week. Why is Lana del Rey beefing with Ethel Cain, and how is it that Nicki Minaj (and many others) have also gotten dragged into this story?? Jenny from Red Room (her podcast and her patreon) is back joining us as a subject matter EXPERT on both of these girls, their messy "ex" and much more...

Also apologies for the 90% good sound quality! My internet (of course) became unstable at parts of the recording, but cleaned it up to the best of my ability!

00:59 Who is Ethel Cain?

01:35 Ethel Cain's Musical Journey and Fictional Persona

07:08 Lana Del Rey's Instagram Reel and the Shady Lyrics

08:14 Jack Donoghue: The Indie Girl's Pete Davidson

15:20 "The Chicago Pose" Social Media Drama

22:09 The Waffle House Controversy

33:25 Lana Del Rey's Response and Accusations

39:48 Ethel Cain's Online Drama

44:19 Nicki Minaj and Other Celebrity Reactions

55:03 Astrological Insights into the Feud

Comments

Erin

Yes!! I needed another collaboration with my 2 favorites. You read my mind

Victoria MK

oh my god every time I think about the 2024 Grammys, I CRINGE! Especially when Taylor doesn’t even acknowledge Celine Dion

Moo

Does anyone remember Shannon’s app recommendation for a background checker? I need one and don’t want to go back through the podcasts to find it

Alexis DeLucia

anyone have a link to the tiktok reading i forgot the name already Bink something?