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Matt and Daniel are joined by California Green Party Gubernatorial Candidate Dr. Butch Ware to speed through Norm Finkelstein’s promise to bring a campfire’s worth of smoke to Dersh and Epstein, each of their individual honors in the field of supposed anti-semitism, and expressions of at least two of the pillars of hip hop.

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Bel Reid

Norman copied in his daughter. He copied in Epstein. He is a GOAT.

Lars

I know that there wasn't enough time to go into all the emails, but I wanted to make a comment about white supremacy. Yes, its true that Weinstein and Epstein had a sense of themselves as Jews, very consciously, that flavoured their behaviour. But we have a lot of evidence from the emails that Epstein was also an actual white supremacist. Except in his case, it manifested in him not seeing non-white victims as worth victimising, and in him prioritising the rape of white girls since he saw them as higher value prizes.

hhlnas

Hi Guys How to join the Discord channel, I am a subscriber to your show 😻

hhlnas

I have a question about what all of you were discussing (time signatures 27:44) Have been ever a response stopped their plotting? When they test their supposed actions 🤔 Any examples, as I don’t see there is any thing stopped them.

LeobaL

Well, Dr Butch is definitely right about Kamala Harris being the black face of white supremacy.

LeobaL

A non-virginal unmarried woman being like a used sticker - I wonder if they're going to start Evangelical purity culture?

Emme

Bama is house slave #1 😒🤢

LeobaL

For the last 2 years I've been increasingly convinced that David Grün and every subsequent Prime Minister of the Zionist state took The Protocols of the Elders of Zion as an instruction manual.

Mirco

I am 15 minutes in and i already love Butch Ware.

Ellen McCabe

Aw I thought it'd be Nick Drake

linden.lime

All time episode. Dr Ware is a fantastic teacher and fits in like a third soulmate of the pod 💜

Guys_Frenchy’s_Official

Didn’t Daniel do dog songs at one point? Black eyed Dog should really be on there

Makoto

This episode reminded me of a quote of Paulo Freire “when education is not liberating, the dream of the oppressed is to become the oppressor.” If trauma is not dealt with, it solidify the insecurity and shame which make the person identify control and oppression as “strength”. Naomi Klein warned about “male humiliation/shame” on this show before. I think men tend to have harder time to cultivate truly equal relationships with others. They’d prefer hierarchy where the interactions are always form of control, receiving it or deploying it. Ranking people, evaluating people…if only this type of relationships(essentially always competing) are rewarded and encouraged, you got yourself neoliberal society. And how Dr.Ware told us that that type of mentality is depicted as the serpent in Adam and Eve context in Quran was awesome. Thank you for yet another great episode!

Nicholas Storch

I'm sure Israel's religious have never lagged behind.

Nicholas Storch

Universal belief, just as white supremacy holds sway in many countries without a white population to speak of.

LeobaL

I think you're right.

Jamie Sandel

I think it’s very important to talk about Hamas’s right under international law to violently resist their oppression, but I do think it might be the one time where both-sidesing is appropriate, bc the specifics of their resistance (targeting civilians and taking children hostage) was also a violation of international law. Israel’s crimes are on an entirely different scale and the media’s bias towards them is despicable, but it has to be possible to lionize the Palestinian liberation struggle without lionizing Hamas (and without wasting time villainizing them when Israel is actively committing a genocide) … but all that said, this episode was truly a banger

Eve

Absolutely incredible guest. So good I'm going to give it another listen - so much insight to take in.