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Matt and Daniel welcome returning champion comedian Jeremy Kaplowitz (Quorators podcast) to flip through AIPAC definitely not being mad about getting routed in the Democratic primaries, the Ossoff-Shapiro continuum of Jewishness, and Kamala Harris calling Zohran with her girlfriends on mute to ask if he likes her.

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LeeNYC

She was married to Fox.

joancutesac

In a world where the Nazis get away with their holocaust we would correctly view any German who promotes "reformed" Nazi party candidates as missing the mark, so why are you guys soft-launching Dr. Abdul El-Sayed? Did his party not just commit the crime of all crimes?

Bad Hasbara

Seems like a reductive view of the duopoly we live in.

joancutesac

Would you have voted for a progressive Nazi candidate in 1945 had the Nazis won WWII?

Bad Hasbara

You are saying the Palestinians are doomed, so why even try? Or is this a general anti-electoral argument.

joancutesac

Palestinians are not doomed and we all understand the Nazi holocaust wasn't voted away. It's odd to be this defensive when asked why you're promoting the party that just perpetrated the genocide.

Bad Hasbara

Just trying to understand what you’re saying. If he ran as a third party candidate you’d like him?

joancutesac

Under which party? His choice to make the Democrats his political home already tells you a great deal about his commitments. If he ran as a Libertarian for example I'd reach the same conclusion for different reasons.

Bad Hasbara

Let’s say Green Party. He holds the same positions but running w the Green Party.

LeeNYC

AOC... she gave up any power to make demands by endorsing Jeffries. She lacks courage. A disaster presidential candidate. Matt--judgemental is good

joancutesac

Zionism isn't just an ideology, it's materially reproduced by the broader system of imperial capital. The Green Party program explicitly leaves American capitalism intact, meaning Zionism's material foundation would remain intact as well. I wouldn't tell my coworkers or anyone I love to vote for an "anti-Zionist Green."

Bad Hasbara

He runs same platform with the [insert name of party you like or as an independent] party.

joancutesac

His platform explicitly replaces state-drawn districts with federally drawn maps that benefit Democrats. Why should I vote for that?

Ashley Anthony

In regards to The Spin segment - it is still technically Pride Month... July is Disability Pride Month for the disabled members in our queer community. 👩‍🦼🌈🙃

joancutesac

His program redraws maps for Democrats, no?

Bad Hasbara

We’re in the weeds here. My child needs my attention. I’ll just say this: electoral politics will not save us and the entire American political system including both major parties are complicit in the genocide. America is Nazi germany. That said, don’t be a defeatist. It’s ok to take it as a win that there are insurgent wings in both parties who want to end aid to Israel. Feeling some optimism is ok.

joancutesac

Didn't think you'd edit your comment so substantially, but ending on a note of optimism about the Nazi Party wasn't what I expected. I hope you reconsider.

LeeNYC

Tough to argue with an idealogue

LeeNYC

There's no winning, is there? K sucks. We are stuck with incrementalism. You don't have to play. Clearly you won't.

LeeNYC

I could elaborate about how Vanessa was not nice to Rick's son from another marriage. It's gossip I picked up around my daughter's soccer games....

joancutesac

Exactly. If we're truly in Nazi Germany then promoting incrementalism is genocide apologism. I say this as someone who agrees with that assessment, as do most of my coworkers. The level of pushback we're getting on this is weird.

shante

Olivia Rodrigo was born in 2003

Sreekishen Nair

This is an interview with Dr. Mark Perlmutter from 2024, conducted by Paul Salvatori. I've cued it to the section where he briefly explains his reasons to vote for Harris, but I recommend watching the whole thing if you haven't seen it. https://youtu.be/sDwShgfrXug?t=1233 Perlmutter risked his life volunteering in Gaza, and is one of the medical workers who collected hard evidence that the IOF is deliberately targeting children, which he and others published in as many outlets as they could, and submitted to SR Albanese for prosecution. It would be absurdly simplistic to argue that his vote for Harris makes him a genocidal nazi "incrementalist". *** Disclaimer: Sharing Perlmutter's statement does not in any way constitute an endorsement for Kamala or the democrats on my part. it just an instructive caveat that hyperbole is not helpful, and loses sight of the more immediate urgency at hand.

joancutesac

If a German doctor risked his life volunteering in Warsaw Ghetto, collected hard evidence Nazis were deliberately targeting children, and asked you to vote Albert Speer in 1946 as the lesser evil, would you?

Sreekishen Nair

I'll answer that when you've done as much and risked as much to help Palestinians, or anyone, as Dr. Perlmutter has. 'Kay? 🙂 (*also, I didn't vote for Kamala, even after watching this interview when it first aired. Try not to miss the point here by swimming into hypotheticals and miss-matched metaphors).

joancutesac

You're arguing that if someone volunteers in the Warsaw Ghetto they can leave and vote for Nazis guilt-free. Sorry but most people will see this as reprehensible.

edeemame

For what it’s worth, I think you’re right that the Democrats will continue inflicting imperial violence abroad and reproducing the same capitalist violence that been reproduced since the birth of America and so what’s the point. That said, I still feel optimistic that there are enough Americans dissenting loudly about one of the US’s core foreign policies and that it has led to a shift in both the electorate and in party politics. When apartheid in South Africa ended, it didn’t take down global capitalism/imperialism/colonialism with it, but at least apartheid in South Africa ended. If apartheid and genocide in Palestine can end, then at least we can say that apartheid and genocide in Palestine has ended.

joancutesac

Are you under the impression that South African apartheid was ended by people voting NP?

Sreekishen Nair

Joan, I never said anything of the sort and my comments are self-explanatory. So is the fact that you've been warping everything from the get go, practically zionistic in these bizarro contortions. I'll take it for the bright red indicator that it is, especially the moral clout you seem to think you hold over doctors that volunteered in Gaza. That's a level of sham self-importance I'm not interested in engaging. Ta. 👋🏾 ** PS: Look, I mean, really look, for the fallacy in your Warsaw doctor analogy. It's not hard to spot and may prove a valuable lesson.

joancutesac

The question still stands whether you're promoting a party the BH hosts themselves claim is the historical equivalent of the Nazi Party, but you can boil it down to my personal failings if you want

B b

I remember this show criticizing Zohran for not burning his political capital early to endorse a DSA challenge to Jeffries that would have lost. Have you guys reconsidered that take seeing how the strategy payed off in the recent NYC elections? Feels like a knee jerk pessimism without considering strategy is really common on left wing shows.

Sreekishen Nair

Sam: Please learn who Dr. Perlmutter is, certainly before trying to pass judgement on him. He's someone everyone should know about, especially if you're concerned about Palestine. Saving people and bearing witness are far more crucial than whatever you may think about his voting record.

joancutesac

Sam to answer your question the analogy isn't bad, the Warsaw Ghetto Uprising was a people's revolt against apartheid in the same way 10/7 was. There's just a weird lack of consistency with liberal zionists where Israel's holocaust is never seen as historically comparable to the Nazi holocaust.

Sreekishen Nair

Joan: When you deliberately mischaracterize what people say, it renders your argument fallacious. That's why your analogy is bad. You've got so many straw-men you could fill out a cornfield.

joancutesac

Did you not just try justifying voting Harris?

John W

That picture Jeremy posted about himself on Xitter.... Anybody remember the movie Addams Family Values? Remember the kid Wednesday befriends at camp? Jeremy's picture looks like that kid all grown up

Lauren Dubois

There is a strong resemblance between Olivia Rodrigo and Francesca IMO, Matt. You have a type!

John W

Wow! What happened to the outro music!?

Penny M ?

Olivia is a babe but Francesca is the hottest piece of toast in town ❤️‍🔥🙌🏼

Penny M ?

Yeah it’s a bad idea right?

edeemame

To answer your question about SA: no, but it would help to move things along if the US cut arms deals or even imposed sanctions on Israel.

Chibigodzilla

I would note that Joe Neguse(D), Jeff Hurd(R) & Brittany Peterson(D) ran unopposed, but good job AIPAC for highlighting some folks who need to primaried.

joancutesac

This reasoning will be deployed in 2028 as a reason to vote Tucker by the way

E Shepard

My dudes, I dislike Amy Schumer as much as anyone does. But I also dislike that your go-to insult for her boils down to "wow, she's fat." Could you please stick to politics-shaming instead of mocking people's bodies? I would love that.

hexalm

It's really interesting to think back to an interview she did with David Sirota a couple years ago. She basically outlined the incentives for members of congress to be compromised and how casually it was put out there. Over the following year there were more signs of her "playing the game" and increasingly trying to use a Faustian bargain with the party's power brokers and corporate backers to help the people she represents. It's very clear that you can't co-opt a power structure like that to work against its own goals. "Own goals" being what it gets the people.

LeeNYC

Hear! Hear!

LeeNYC

I was one of them. Still am. AOC shows her true colors by endorsing jeffries at this very moment. I mean she shows she won't exercise her power to extract concessions that are meaningful

Roba Rayan

Jinx @daniel Mate. We both started singing can we talk together!

Dimatadore

Daniel I need you to stop giving away strategy to the enemy lol

Rita May

Jose Vega is still running as an Independent against Torres! Hoping that rabble rouser can oust Richie this time!

Alex

Also, there is a massive connection that disability justice has with Palestine.

Lisa P

Brad Lander as comptroller increased investments in Elbit Systems, during the genocide. He is not DSA

Sreekishen Nair

I absolutely adore George Straight ❤️❤️❤️

Sreekishen Nair

Since it's "Str8 Pride" month(s), can i be the guy who yells at everybody from the crosswalk with a "God Hates Str8s!!" sign? It's really not a true Pride event without that confrontational feature (and it's got more of a rhyme than "God Hates F**s!!"). Get all dressy like Ken Copeland and shout Edith Massey quotes through a big loud megaphone. https://www.youtube.com/shorts/pX2ElPXIlRM

Sreekishen Nair

I'd honestly love to see a full fledged reenactment of Israel coming to Haley Stevens in her dreams. The Lynchian possibilities are endless.

Jack Block

Ngl I think about this whenever Matt brings up Francesca. 🥵🥵🥵

Ibrahim Khatib

That's my favorite idea in this entire comment section