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SharkMessiah101

So heads up, Volkner is as strong as the Sinnoh Elite 4. Despite what the show says the Elite 4 members arent all equal in power, they all have different levels of strength but they are undoubtably the top trainers of their regions. Flint is the 3rd strongest in Sinnoh, only behind Cynthia and the Leader of the Sinnoh Elite 4 Lucian. Volkner while a gym leader can go toe to toe with Flint and even beat him at times, Volkner also has an open invitation to join the Elite 4 if he wanted but has refused because he enjoys being a Gym Leader. Usually we dont see Gym Leaders becoming Elite 4 or champion but it has happened before, something to keep in mind as well is that Gym Leaders hold back their true strength because their job isnt to defeat challengers but to test and train the skills of their challengers. The Champion, Elite 4, and Gym Leaders usually make up the top 13 trainers of their region but we usually never get to see a Gym Leaders true strength due to them having to hold back, crazy to think how much harder these battles would be for Ash if the Gym Leaders where allowed to go all out without any restrictions

Fernstoick

For the games it's true but in the anime i don't think it's true since we have seen a lot of differents between them before. In the old gym battles gym leaders Pokémon would evolve during their battle with Ash but they don't retreat their Pokémon because it got stronger so I think they go all out in the anime.

SharkMessiah101

I’d disagree because if so no way was Ash winning some of those battles. Also Journey’s shows is just how much Gym leaders hold back and the difference between them competing in a world wide league and their own gyms which are made to test trainers. I’m not saying Gym leaders aren’t trying to win but they are handicapped and not able to battle at their full 100% during gym battles

Fernstoick

Roark ( the first sinno gym leader) is a great example too. In Paul battle his final Pokémon wasn't fully evolved, which he used it like that in Ash first battle. But after that Pokémon evolving, he used it in Ash rematch so with that I don't think in the anime they hold back.

SharkMessiah101

I mean, Ash asked him to use it. I don’t think he would normally use Rampardos against someone without any gun badges unless they asked

Fernstoick

I do have another examples which I won't say since bloom haven't watch those yet. I think this matter is just personal opinions since in the anime it never has been confirmed.

Ashhab Imran

Volkner seemed like he developed genuine depression, burnout and lack of interest

Rishdog

man we on the final seasonnnnn

Ali Madhi

Bloom Which contest do u think is better the Wallace cup or this one

Ali Madhi

Also bloom idk if u know but mays voice actor from DP is the same as the Pokédex voice

Natsuki

Gym leaders are indeed limited, but their only limitation is the ability to switch Pokémon during battle. Anything other than that is headcanon. In XY, we have that Wulfric doesn't use mega evolution against every trainer, but this is something in a region where mega evolution exists, and something that exists in XY, and not in the DP saga which is the case here. In DP, what we can use to consider that Volkner held back is that he didn't use his Raichu here. But if we decide to use JN as a reference, that wouldn't make sense since he didn't use Raichu there either. It doesn't help that Flint seems impressed with how Ash is battling Volkner. It wouldn't make sense for him to show this if Volkner was holding back so much for this battle.

Natsuki

And of course, we have to remember, in every region there are more than eight gyms, different from the games, so not necessarily every trainer who participated in the leagues challenged the same leader as Ash.