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THUNDER ARMOR?!?!? THATS TOP TIER BAILOUT 😭And then yall gonna move it outside one of the most decorative gyms.... this is worst than Ramos gym battle but a wide margain.

EVERYTHING ELSE THO WAS AMAZING!!! Amazing Legendary battle along with Drake introduction. Even tho i thought it was bailout, Thunder Armor actually looked awesome lmao and Harley was funny as hell

VEERRRRY Great start to this season!!!

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ShakingMyBunBuns

Yea Thunder armor makes 0 sense But when you go back and watch the ep Ash caught Taillow it was always good tanking electric attacks But a golden form💀.....

Justice League Unlimited

ngl, solely because of thunder armor, this is my least favorite gym battle of the entire series. there were no asspulls as bad as this one. Especially when the only reason he chose Swellow was because he could fly but didn’t Grovyle fight in the flying gym?

cbloom

You can not defend Team rocket after this. It’s a reason why I skip through some of the seasons and this was a prime example. They had nothing integral to the plot

Goku

Thunder armour is actually an ability from the games with swallow has guts when its paralyzed but you probably didn't know that since you don't play Pokemon we told you team rocket is best is black and white you gotta appreciate it

ShakingMyBunBuns

Could be an explanation Its early feat of tanking electricity and guts The anime writers just overdid it a tiny bit with that gold lol😂

MattMoku

Don't let anyone tell you that Thunder Armor isn't anything other than a cop-out. If Swellow can not only withstand a Thunder. But use it to power up, then there shouldn't be anything that can faint it.

ShakingMyBunBuns

If it helps Team rocket have 2 good seasons in BW 🤷‍♂️

Ashhab Imran

Can't even blame you. I'm also in the minorty that I really don't like them. Phoned-in,, uncreative, lazy staple just to steal screentime that could go into other things. They have good episodes here and there, like a backstory or an instance that acutaly gives them some development or they actualy do something that isn't their usual schtick, but those episodes are rare and gems in their standard wasteland of appearances. As you've seen, BW Team Rocket are acutally lit and have great things to offer, and aside from BW, SM is easily the second-most tolarable Team Rocket

cbloom

Bro I don’t care lol? What does the games have to do with the ass pull he just did ? Zero set up , came out of nowhere. Stop acting so butt hurt dude because this isn’t the first time

Goku

Yeah I mean the only reason ash caught tailow if you remember is because it took Pikachu electric attacks really well

Goku

No its fine cbloom the games aren't the anime but the anime has done already crazy things so its time to grow up and handle it

Goku

Love how to state the games don't matter when its the only source of truth everything comes from the games the type charts you look at the clearly the types of Pokemon that's like saying the manga of one piece doesn't matter because the anime made a character stronger than both shanks and luffy in the movie 😄

ShakingMyBunBuns

Manga, Games and anime each have their own set of rules Somethings make sense while other doesnt👍

SharkMessiah101

Lance is the Kanto and Johto Champion btw

Goku

Not really at all in that case thunder armor is an anime thing that your watching so it doesn’t mean it’s something something bs in your mindset

Goku

If the anime creates something like thunder armor then it’s cannon simply as that it doesn’t mean it’s BS if the writers just wanted to make ash win they they would have but they wanted to incorporate something unique and special to make this battle memorable to fans I’m not going hate on they like the wide vase of bitches in here is I’m not the type of person to cry and complain that a 20 year old anime made for kids does something like this you people genuinely need to grow up it’s pathetic seeing grown ass people complain about a kids cartoon when there the people watching it crazy work

ShakingMyBunBuns

Yes.... its an anime thing.... thunder armor is a one time anime thing.... Its only after hoenn (Battle frontier) the anime started to lean more up against the strict Game rules For example pokemon stopped having more than 4 moves And abilities like guts stopped looking like that

ShakingMyBunBuns

No no No one said that Its just that games and anime Doesnt have the same canon Which literally everyone knows Simple as that

Goku

What are you saying the anime is what made thunder armor and the only thing that we can see that makes thunder armor slightly makes any sense is from swallow ability than it has what’s your point I’m very confused on what your trying to say what’s cannon or not because clearly this episode isn’t filler and we saw it animated and it happen so it’s real ?

Goku

Exactly pokemon like drakes dragonite and ash snorlax had more than 4 moves so why we decided to go so hard on something like thunder armor when the pokemon anime clearly doesn’t care about the games or manga at times why is this the battle we decided is bullshit just say your a hypocrite and move on dude

ShakingMyBunBuns

Swellow having guts is accurate This golden form isnt Which is why it only appeared ONCE in the anime You saying the anime follows the games with the same canon (even though thats not what canon means) So my point is like i said Something makes sense Other things dont...

ShakingMyBunBuns

Umm people didnt like that either lol They just use it as jokes with the moves

ShakingMyBunBuns

How am i a hypocrite for literally saying somethings makes sense and other things dont And then using that as an example of things the anime stopped doing cause it makes no sense Again how am I the hypocrite?

Goku

Basically to put in simple terms if your going have such a hating energy towards this whole thunder armor thing keep that energy throughout the entire show it’s just weird now everybody decides to hate when we know the whole anime is intoned do doing many things that seem impossible or crazy ash literally cheated in like half he battles in kanto why now it’s just so weird and disingenuous

Goku

Least favorite gym battle In entire series because they decided to do something different while in ash first battle he used a sprinkler and enchantments to win got it makes 100% sense

Justice League Unlimited

it was his very first gym battle with only three weak Pokemon, I don't blame them for doing an asspull but I still think thunder armor was wayyy worse when there were clearly better strategies.

cbloom

I love sun and moon team rocket lmao are actually funny in there with bewear😂what all you said was facts tho. I’ve seen enough episodes to actually say that provide nothing for the story other than running up the run time 🤦‍♂️

ShakingMyBunBuns

Yes like i said from the start Which is why the anime stopped doing stuff like that and actually did decide to follow the games

ShakingMyBunBuns

Ash making Sabrina laugh and earning the badge....

Justice League Unlimited

still isn't as bad. there was an entire plotline with Sabrina and Haunter, it made up for it.

ShakingMyBunBuns

Again people hate those moments too in indigo Which is mostly why people love it for nostalgia lol Cause what other reasons are there

Goku

Yeah later on like in xy and dp and sun and moon they actually start paying more close attention to type matchups and abilities but rn we are not at that point when we people understand that the anime been doing this I hate being the only person with a brain sometimes they done so many times bullshit things this isn’t the first but apparently this one the one that’s unacceptable or something most disingenuous thing I’ve seen all day they act like they haven’t even watched the show brother ash won a gym battle by making the gym leader laugh at one point no battle just haunter made Sabrina and then he got the badge but that gym doesn’t get the hate this one has it’s like people brains work upside down sometimes and forgets stuff like this been happenings in the pokemon anime for YEARS but no this one here is too far apparently it’s so weird to me there no way I’m the only one that things this is not even bad compared to og

Goku

So because it’s his gym his allowed to cheat freely and use drugs to boost pikachu electric type moves got it and what about Sabrina when ash got the badge by making her laugh let me guess thunder armor worst than that to you people are genuinely in need of something if you think this is worse than what we’ve been getting in og pokemon

ShakingMyBunBuns

Exactly So at this point (indigo-Battle frontier) You just have to accept the bullshit ig😂

ShakingMyBunBuns

Umm Ash never won that brock battle He forfeitted And earned a pity badge💀 So sprinklers didnt even help him in the end...

Goku

Yeah I mean it has been happening for years now it only changed until diamond and pearl and the battle frontier comes along but there no way people can say ash deserves a gym badge more against Sabrina then this battle we’re at least ash trainer his pokemon and used a strategy instead of making the gym leader laugh = badge there no way im tripping cbloom clearly doesn’t know the bullshit that’s been happening in jhoto and kanto because I mean he literally skipped all of it and only has fully kinds of watched two full pokemon series so I don’t blame him for saying the stuff because he hasn’t seen Sabrina but for the people who actually watched the whole show like me and others we know this stuff been like this for a while now bro

Goku

Yeah lmao it’s even worse I tried to make it redeemable but it isn’t lol

Goku

But yeah justice so your telling me ash earned his badge in Sabrina because making her laugh is a plotline no offense bro it’s either your very young or trolling me rn because if you think making somebody laugh earns you a gym badge rather than battling them

ShakingMyBunBuns

Theres a certain SM ep i cant wait for you to react to So im not gonna say anything But Bewear is literally gigachad

Ashhab Imran

Aside from Lt. Surge, Blaine, and maybe Koga, the Kanto gym battles were complete cheeks and no one will deny that. Ash vs Misty in SM was the true Ash vs Misty we deserved. Heck Misty/Brock's SM eps did them more justice than the original series ever did

Justice League Unlimited

My main issue is at the point where Ash was, he could've clearly thought of a better strategies. Espically since he had Grovyle be used in the flying gym, so his stupid reasoning for choosing Swellow was stupid. The writers had experience at this point, they could've writen a better battle. Meanwhile, in og, it's the og. Ash still was a newbie and a bad team. (they only got good after the first season) Also the writers clearly didn't have a clear direction where they wanted the story to go. Don't get me wrong, they are definitely asspulls, just a bit more forgiving. If the sprinkler and the laughing happened in more modern seasons like BW to Journeys then I would've said those were the worse asspulls. I'm more forgiving of the very very first season over the eighth season.

Goku

This is still very early into people and the second series other than og also ash still won a win badge in a 1v3 battle while learning about milktank abilities and everything just because it’s older doesn’t give it the excuse to make ass pulls things stop that bro og = allowed to do what every the fuck they want you brain has to be working overtime to come up with these takes man

Goku

Ashhab is entirely correct SM misty and Brock did way more than the did in the og series and made them actually cool there battles in og way so bad is was kinda unwatchable at times I rather watch a thunder armor strategy where at least ash battles the gym in a 2v2 matchup than straight up bull shit gets badge because he saves the day personally

Justice League Unlimited

dude you are just now being disrespectful. am i not allowed to have this opinon, it's justified. I didn't really watch Johto so I don't know much about the gym battles from there. i'm not changing my mind, it's 100% the worse asspull.

Coca Cola

and that's why horizons doesn't have team rocket anymore. you don't have to deal with them when you get to horizons

Goku

Exactly my point keep you opinion I don’t care at all but you just said it’s the worst battle in the entire series and by that entire series means og if I am not mistaken so clearly you just watch the goods parts and skip the og just like cbloom so you also don’t know what your really talking about so I don’t blame you but personally if you ask be I rather watch ash actually battle and get a gym badge other then making a gym laugh then getting it and heads up if your going get mad because of something you said was clearly wrong don’t say it at all I could tell from your comments you already don’t watch all of pokemon but saying it’s the worse asspull is just by definition not true that’s simply and if you don’t believe me watch og I’m done arguing with somebody who hasn’t even watched the worse parts of pokemon im done with this pointless conversation next time do your research before pissing me off

Goku

Thank you for understanding and again just say it’s the worst gym battle from what you seen because when you say the entire series that includes kanto and og it kinda makes it seem likes you watch those which clearly haven’t

Justice League Unlimited

it's not understanding, it's me not caring anymore because of how disrespectful you were and just saying things without even knowing anything about me. you even said keep my opinion, you didn't care. Then immediately started explaining why you did care.

Goku

Again I don’t care if you think I’m disrespectful your a disgraceful human being saying an opinion without watching or knowing anything about og Pokemon your a fucking loser stop speaking about stuff saying it’s the worst gym battle in the entire show when you DIDNT EVEN FUCKING WATCH THE ENTIRE SHOW I genuinely think you need mental help people like you need to touch real life or get something important to do other than going online and spreading false information about something you didn’t even complete fully you useless trash

Goku

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Goku

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Goku

No problem 😉

Goku

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Goku

Great

Ashhab Imran

Harley is basically May's Ursula but he came first, and I honestly think Ursula is an inferior version of him. This may be random, but he reminds me of Tetsuya from Beyblade

Ashhab Imran

Probably figured this out by now (8:53), but she was the Team Aqua commander who appeared often, and was even in the last batch. And yeah, Lance was in a Johto two-parter that got skipped

Ashhab Imran

I forgot how badly they screwed up this battle. It wasn't until BW where they finally decided to have episodes where they were flat out absent. OG-DP they had a problem with phoning them in every episode and being afraid to not have them appear. This trio are top-tier clowns. Say what you will about Max being annoying (have certain thoughts on that), but I'd rather watch a full movie starring Max than suffer 5 minutes of Team Rocket. Speaking of this battle, this was number 1 on a list of top 10 most BS Pokemon moments

Ashhab Imran

I know I commented this before, but just for a reminder. I know it may be filler, but there’s an episode in the next batch titled “Do I Hear a Ralts”. Might be worth checking out for how praised it is

Rishdog

Yessir. The thunder armor move was crazy but I really like it so I didnt look too deep into it lol. The team magma and aqua arcs were good overall but wished they expanded a bit more. Could have had rayquazza come in. Looks like you are close to the grand festival and league.

Ashhab Imran

There was this video a long time ago of moments in the Pokemon anime that make no sense, and Thunder Armour was number one, or at least the last one on the list