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Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D - 4x16 "What If..." Full Reaction (Patreon)

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2024-06-12 05:04:15
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Isaac Thomas

Fun Fact: Elizabeth Henstridge was actually sick when filming this episode, hence why her voice sounds raspy.

Christopher simeon

Welcome to the third pod. We had the ghost rider pod, the LMD pod, and now the agents of hydra pod. If you are wondering where the avengers are in this world the show actually gives an answer but you would not catch it unless you read a newspaper that will be shown on screen briefly next episode. It is never important to the plot just a fun fact so I feel safe telling you. During the Cambridge incident Katya took control of many students and others. The avengers were then called in to stop her but got controlled and killed by her powers then Hydra stepped in afterwards and killed her.

Laurel

Down the rabbit hole we go! If you have time, you should pause to take a look at all the articles and photos and such that Coulson looks through. There are the big things of course, like the Tahiti postcard and the May calendar with Lola on it, but a bunch of smaller things as well. Another fun (?) detail is in the scene where Simmons talks to the student, on the wall it says Alexander Pierce High School est. 2014 — the year Cap 2 came out — because naturally if HYDRA won, Pierce would've been at the center of it. As evil as Aida/Madame Hydra is, I have to say she looks FABULOUS in the Framework. The outfit, the green in her hair, the eyeshadow, she works the hell out of it. And yep, this season coming out in 2016-17 and having this plotline was definitely not a coincidence lol. The writers ain't subtle and I love it.

Becky White

It's funny. The last arc was the good version of Secret Invasion and this arc is the good version of the Multiverse.

Lyla

Oh your reaction to this one was such a delight to watch! I’m so glad you enjoyed it so much. I think you’re seeing why so many fans rate this season, and particularly this arc, so highly! There are so many fabulous twists and subversions in this episode that makes this such an exciting and compelling watch. Just wait til you see how they develop! In particular, bringing Ward back, as the good kind of double agent, and making Fitz one of the major Hydra players, are both such genius spins on the characters we know, I want to, not for the first time, just stand up and applaud the writers! What fun.

Tom Hardie

I haven't watched this on D+. Does Chloe still say "we'll return in moment" after the episode?

Lyla

No, they got rid of that for Disney Plus!

Hasnaa

Ward being the double agent in every world is so funny lol Warning: politics rant incoming Americans don't understand fascism due to their whitewashed non material dialectal education system, it's not as simple as people yearn for fascism, they think fascism= dictatorship, democracy = no fascism, that's not what fascism means at all, the na zis came to power democratically and na Zi Germany technically did the Holocaust democratically, the na zis lost but fascism definitely won, fascism is a tool in the hands of capital owners, when capitalism is in decline (which happens almost every few decades because it's not a stable system) capital owners use fascism to "restore law and order", it always rise in time of dire socioeconomic conditions, when people's financial situation keeps getting worse and worse due to the natural progression of neo liberal policies that concentrate wealth in the hands of the 1%, people start to look for answers to why that's happening to them and without any sort of class consciousness u start to believe in conspiracy theories or any explanation, capital owners are never going tell u it's capitalism, the media they control is doing red scare propaganda 24/7 and delivering acceptable explanations (acceptable to the capitalist class) like it's the fault of the Jews, or the Muslims or the migrants which are all given the title of "communists" coz of course, just anything but capitalism, don't analyze anything from the lens of class, it's a way to divide the working class so they don't rise against them, all US media is just fascism machine, fascism is when u create an in group and an out group and blame that arbitrary out group for the economy failing, that's what fascism is, u can do that in a democracy or in a theocracy, the political system doesn't matter, i$rael is a fascist country and they do it democratically, the in group is Jews, the out group is Palestinians, in the US the in group is white evangelical Christians and the out group is everyone else, I live in Egypt under a dictatorship, it's awful but it's not a fascist country, there's no in group and out group based on a religion or ethnicity that gets blamed for the economy or "society's ills", if the 10% christian population was being blamed for the economy and being exterminated or something that would be fascism, but simply calling dictatorship fascism is false, capitalism requires imperialism to sustain it, u have to send soldiers to fight in countries to get their resources like the middle east, they commit horrific war crimes, killing children, raping, torturing etc.. what do u think those soldiers will do when they come back home? Do u think they will just assemulate into society? They feel like they risked their lives "serving their country" then they come back home and they don't find any of the safety nets they have been promised, most of them joined the military out of poverty in the first place and now they r both poor and have PTSD, they start to look for answers or explanations and the only answer the media is giving is it's the migrants fault, it's the trans folks fault, it's African Americans, it's the Muslims etc.. so of course they join fascist militias, the majority of police in the US voted for trump and votes republicans in general, it's already a police state and the police keeps getting more and more militarized, a quote I love is "fascism is imperialism turned inward", fascism doesn't have to be this cartoonishly obvious, it's important to be able to spot it. Sorry for the ramble, rewatching this episode in the current events is very interesting