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Kyle Reese Popcorn Fan

Crowley doesnt care about Gavin pre human blood. Its takes moving mountains to make demons change in this show. Even Meg took being hells most wanted, an angel and a lot of torture to fully get there.

Vel

YES! I digress, the last comment I made was how great this season is on rewatches because you can appreciate how everything unfolds. This episode is definitely a top contender for the season. Everyone stepped up their game in so many ways to reboot the series and keep it going. There is so much happening in the show with the parallels and the layers and yes...the messiness of it all. SPN's sweet spot. It's pretty great stuff. I'm really bummed we are missing out on the next episode. It's so creepy and unsettling with some intense undertones. Jensen really knocks it out of the park with his acting and sells it well. It's another one that is a stand out for me on second, third and fourth watch. I also know there was a lot of messiness happening BTS with the show later on in the season too, so that's part of what made the execution not as strong as it could be. That includes the reason they killed off so many of Sera's characters as a punishment. Or at least that's the rumor.

Jay

Jensen's directing debut - he did good

Elisia

not sure if this was mentioned, but when you were asking if Bobby was soulless, or affected, the answer is no. When you make a deal, your soul stays in your body until the hellhounds come to drag it to Hell. Sam is the only main character who ever experiences soullessness, except arguably Cas since angels dont have a soul to begin with

AdoptDontShopPets

You are correct that later we get a different actor to play Gavin. Steven Williams is just amazing as Rufus. The writers are just great for him and Bobby's dynamic.

rose mnor

At 1:09:32 from the transcript: And people are jockeying for position, Raphael, Cass, Crowley. And does Crowley have a direct opposition other than Lucifer Loyalist? Is there any one person that is going for the throne? About Crowley power grabbing hell throne to become the King of Hell, he really is not. In the S12 flashback episode Stuck in the Middle with You, we will find out that hell was given to him because the next Prince of Hell in line, Ramiel, wants to live as a nobody. So grabbing the souls for powers is actually, if I recall correctly, only because Raphael wants the apocalypse 2.0 to happen, which will put him Crowley, a demon, in a precarious position all over again. It so happens that the souls he wants to grab to power up, are actually monsters' souls from Purgatory, not human souls. The souls he got from making deals are his since those are going to hell when their time comes.

Elisia

fair enough! although with Jack, there was always an open-ended question of how “soulless” he actually was at any given point, and while they inferred, especially near the end that he lost most, if not all, of his soul by burning it off, it was never quite confirmed one way or the other, whereas with Sam we got a crystal clear answer that his soul was completely absent from his body, which is why i didnt include him! Personally, i always saw it as he still had a sliver of soul left, not much, but enough that there was some for him to regrow and replenish in season 15. He was definitely changed, and different, but i always saw Jack’s experience as closer to Lilih Sunder’s (burned away most of the soul, not all of it), then to Sam’s