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Purple Nurple

If you had to be ill for any episode, I'm glad it's this one. It's not the most interesting episode and it feels weirdly placed. I'm not the biggest fan of this episode or a fan of the kids who played young Sam/Dean. I hope you feel better soon!

Hasnaa

Yeah I felt the same about this episode as you did, a motw in this economy?!! It's the last 5 episode what are they doing we don't have time for this, this is the first flashback episode that imo doesn't add anything to dean and sam's story, all the previous flashback episode really gave us insights into who Sam and dean are and what made them who they are but this one is just repeating the things we already know? Yes Sam wanted to be normal we already knew that, I don't like that young dean called Sam a dumb kid that feels so out of character, dean wouldn't say that he always thought Sam was very smart, if anything he thought of himself as the dumb kid, the grunt compared to Sam even though it's not true. I love that sam's first thought when dean said that cas just up and left was did you guys fight again 😂, sam's like is this another of your domestic disputes?! Poor Sam keeps losing cas by approximatey to dean without doing anything but thankfully this time dean and cas aren't fighting coz I can't take more of that. I guess it's dean and Sam's turn. I completely agree about dean and Jack's relationship, I think the writers ruined that relationship with flip floping on their relationship so much, at the beginning of season 13 dean was against jack but it was justifiable he didn't know him but then they had that whole road trip episode when jack was dying and showed us they bonded then jack killed Mary and dean is back to hating jack so much so that he wanted to kill him and pointed a gun at him but then only 2 episodes ago they showed us dean making jack a birthday cake and starting to forgive him and saying that he won't let the wood nimph hurt jack showing us that he's still protective of jack then this episode he's just fine with jack dying for him to get his freedom which is also out of character for dean, he's always been the one willing to sacrifice himself for others not willing for others to sacrifice themselves for him, I guess they really wanted to address dean's anger issues in this last season and show us how he can get so blinded by his anger to his detriment, and I guess this episode purpose was to show that dean's anger always came from fear, fear of losing Sam demonstrated by him seeing Sam in the pile of those dead kids but like you said Sam is near 40 now so it doesn't work now and Sam is so fucking tired of being treated like a kid still, and dean's reason for not telling Sam here is not to protect him like it used to be, it's so that he wouldn't force dean to see how unethical what they're doing is. Sam and cas has always been the more chaotic part of team free will anyway and when it comes to the relationship with jack I would say that cas is his father, Sam is his mentor and dean is the fun uncle or the step dad, I hope sam and cas come together and talk some sense into dean. Imagine treating cas like shit for 8 episodes for "keeping a secret" about the freaking snake even though he could've never predicted that it could lead to Mary's death somehow and crussify him for waiting for 1 episode to tell them about the snake only to turn around and do the same thing to Sam but even worse coz dean knows for sure that keeping that a secret will lead to Jack's death 🤦🏻‍♀️the hypocrisy is unreal

MidnightSilver

Yeah, I reckon that the writers tried to throw in a last Weechesters episode as a fan service thinking that we love those. But the casting choice was poor for this. The kids didn’t have the right nuances or dynamic and the points the writers were trying to bring out were redundant/mis-timed. Plus I think the classic monster of the week was another fan service, but the overall story was weak, and not what we wanted at this point in the series finale. (Same as the Mrs Butters episode, felt like it was engineered to give fans Spn holiday gifs, as opposed to actually furthering the final plot line) They could have achieved as much as they did in this episode by having a bunker centric ep where they hashed out the plan and what was going on and sprinkled in flash backs to old cases as they tried to make their points or work out what to do next. oh well, a season is always a mixed bag. But you weren’t alone with your frustrations Shelley 😄

rose mnor

Sam, Dean, and Cas had a plan in The Trap, but the cost was too high and Sam couldn’t do it. Now Billie has a plan, and still, the cost is too high. Neither Sam nor Cas can do it. But Dean needs Chuck gone (”I don’t know what’s real and what’s Chuck”) and he can’t see a way out. Right now Dean is in another moment of crisis. He’s going with Billie’s plan because he sees no other way. Yet we can speculate that his conversation with Cas didn’t involve Dean saying that to Cas because maybe Dean hopes Cas can find another way. Imo Dean was delaying, probably in hopes that Cas would find another way before he had to tell Sam. Because he hopes he doesn’t have to. But Billie fast-tracked things, and now he knows he can’t delay anymore. Billie shows up and time is rapidly running out. Suddenly there’s no time to find a better way. Dean is TRYING to forgive Jack. Forgiveness isn’t a light switch you can just flip on and off, it takes time and effort. At the end of the day, though, yeah, Dean doesn’t want Jack to die. Dean desperately needs Chuck out of the picture. This isn’t Dean being rational. He’s terrified. So he tells Sam everything. And he tells himself Jack is a fair price to pay. Maybe it’s not the only way. But Dean doesn’t KNOW this yet. As long as they’re stuck in the wheel they’ll lose Jack anyway, they'll keep losing everything and everyone, over and over. They’ve always been surrounded by horror, fear, and death, courtesy of Chuck. He just wants to defeat Chuck and this cycle of the hamster wheel to stop. This episode was about things Dean failed to do: he failed to kill the Baba Yaga, and it cost Travis his life. Travis facing his fear through denial that any of it had ever been real is what caused his death. Mostly because the thing he clung to, the thing he put his sense of security in, was unbeknownst to him, the instrument of his own destruction, just like the immersion therapy method didn’t work for Travis. Poor Travis’ idea of facing his fears to overcome his trauma worked very well on paper, just like Billie’s plan seems to be the best option on paper. Or, the best of the worst options they have. The very episode is “out of place” in the season - I mean, because it gives us an “old style” hunting case in a season where hunting has lost its original purpose or flavor in the narrative in regards to Sam and Dean, and to us as viewers.

Kim Rigg

I have only seen this episode once when it first aired, so I thought I might like it more now I have seen the whole show. At this point of the season I was so irritated with a poor MOW episode with so few left. With all that even if this episode had been in another season or earlier in the season - I still do not like it. It did not feel like Supernatural and young Sam and Dean did not work for me. Get well soon!!

BexFangirl

Oh yeah I think the angel blade would match amazingly. Very skippable episode for the most part. And odd placement for such an ep. Hope you get better soon.

Susan Stork

Very skippable episode for me too. I remember watching this when it first aired and being so angry afterwards. I thought, just my opinion, that this was the first and only episode where the actors phoned in a performance. I thought the acting was weak, the story was weak and forgettable and the writing was uninteresting . I love this show and can re-watch most episodes/seasons, but this one was very poor on all accounts.

Amye Sabin

This is a terrible episode. It seems apparent that J&J weren't happy with it either. We're so c lose to the end, and TPTB throw this right now? There's so much to do, and no time for crap like this. The actor who played younger Dean was HORRIBLE and looked nothing like the previous actors. At least the young man playing Sam did a pretty good job.

Karen Gauck

This episode doesn't bother me. It's not my favorite, but I guess I just wasn't surprised it was a MOTW. This episode would always been MOTW in every season. I don't think Dean was right to not tell Sam, but it is Jack's choice to make, not Sam's or Cas'. The only reason he isn't dead was because he was brought back to do this. Plus, the world is gonna end. Everyone's going to die and they have no other plan.

Rae

as much as i was annoyed this was a motw i thought the parallels were pretty decent. we also learned a few things, so overall don't hate it, don't love it. i DO hate that we are getting so close to the end and that you're not feeling well! hope you feel better soon!

Rae

on another note - i love your tattoo!! and i love the idea of an angel blade. *chefs kiss*

Hasnaa

Want to add that I have the perfect angel blade tattoo idea for you but you have to wait until the show is over to know it

Michele

This episode is one of the the reasons I wasn't enjoying this season. For several reasons. I hated how they were writing fur Dean. They're stripping away all the growth he'd done over the years. It felt like Dabb and Buck-Leming saw Dean as an a-hole. Then you add on the piss poor episode and story planning. And more.

Vel

Plenty of comments already articulate my feelings on the content of the episode, so I do not need to contribute there. The plot points and foreshadowing was not nuanced and felt like an anvil. However, the set design was really on point and clearly the stand out element in this episode. A true showcase IMO. Perhaps that was the point...? I feel similarly with the writing and the directing choices as well - as if this was a safe episode to allow those with less experience to experiment and get the credit on their resume/highlight reel.

Karen Gauck

I never understood the Dabb era characterization of Dean. I don't really feel like Dean ever had anger issues. Sam is the one in S5 who says "Most of the time, I can hide it, but...I am angry. I'm mad at everything."

CrystalDeth

I have no idea why anyone trusts Billie but it's clear how much she enjoys adding piles of guilt, blame and weight on Dean since he isn’t used to zillions of those issues and then has to vanish since Chuck is back. She loaded Dean up like a hirsute hand grenade about not sharing with Sam the Jack/Cas/Billie explosive "secret." Jack wanted to keep that burden to himself, then asked Castiel to keep from the boys. What I find shocking is that people are...shocked about this since they ALL lie to each other non-stop. Must be in the show's contracts I'm sure. But it is funny that Sam is upset at Dean for not telling him Jack's secret he shouldn't know at all and HELLO...this is not THEIR CHOICE. It's Jack's ffs.

CrystalDeth

I love this show, the characters, their relationships and I can only get through this season as more of an obligation to see the specks where they shine minus the storylines that got phoned in for 15. Bad parallel attempts with MOTW, it only detracted and removed growth in the final season, the flip flops over trusting Death and her book macguffins were overkill. And I stopped trying to figure out Jack's relationship status with the 3 dads since it teeters by episode or scene. So after the big 'secret' of Jack's suicide run being shared where they all revert back to their respective character development selves back a few seasons...we see slivers of opposing sides of their feelings but "there must be another way" to kill GOD without him knowing as well as Death or the Empty catching on that plans change? Why not? We didn't have enough storylines this season... How many times can they look through the damn lore/angel and demon tablets/pop down to hell/hit the sandbox to heaven/call and potentially ruin prophet's life/scour the book of the dead/call rando shaman with contrived spare arch angel grace/etc. Anyone recall that it used to Sam who had the temper issue?