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Supernatural - 15x19 "Inherit the Earth" Full Reaction (Patreon)

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2023-11-01 07:12:26
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Alina Ivinson

I know how you feel, I had to stop reading as well because how ignorant people were being was honestly disappointing

NSTG_Eddie

i feel you about leading on so Ignorant and annoying! btw with the Cas Trick it Did piss the Fandom off alot and i felt the same way you do after i watched this Episode i couldn't figure out the feeling either. 1 More and the Fact Buffy has been in most of this Journey is Nuts and Heartwarming (when i say in i mean onscreen appearances ofc) I cannot Wait not only for the Finale Reaction but also whatever the Wrap Up Contains! (I do wonder if Anyone can find The Long Way Home Special If your willing to react to it ofc!)

Gigi

I'm not sure how i feel about this episode, imo it could've had more build up to defeating Chuck and not just a last minute resolution but i can accept that these last two episodes had to be altered because of covid. Also regarding all the exposition from last episode Eileen wasn't even mentioned not even when Jack brought everyone back which doesn't help. That Lucifer/Cas scene pissed the fandom off A LOT like just give us back the angel!

Purple Nurple

she has the long road home - and she said she'll watch it before the finale (it's the fan content before the last ep)

NSTG_Eddie

Yay thanks for letting me Know Sharon!🫶🏻

NSTG_Eddie

I must have missed where she said she was oops!😂

Kim Rigg

At the end of this episode I think I had the same mentality as you , I felt underwhelmed. Not angry or really happy just OK and really puzzled about episode 20. I felt like a lot of time was wasted in the season on some MOW episodes, time that I would have rather went into more detail about the main story arc and covering loose ends. While I like some of the fanservice that has happened to date in the season, it feels like the writers focused more on moments rather than the detail in the main story. This episode is the season final with the next being the series finale. Also agree fan wars suck!!

Karen Gauck

I remember wondering what was going to happen in the final episode after this. I liked this episode and I thought that was the worst thing they could do to Chuck. Forcing him to live without any power. The final montage left me with a lot of feels and I had Running on Empty running through my head for days. 😂

Purple Nurple

The Lucifer thing - we all hated it. But let me put a positive spin on it for you that a lot of destiel shippers believe. Lucifer pretends to be the love of a person's life to let him in, it could be said that he tricked Dean with Cas to get into the bunker in the same way.

BunkerGirl

Shelley, I’m so glad you said what you did before your reaction to this episode. I’m sorry things were ruined for you in any way, and that you had to see some things bordering on rude or hateful. I apologize if I said anything that upset you or anyone else. I think I felt very similar to you after this episode. I liked it okay...but it somehow felt too perfect and rushed to beat God in the last 10 minutes. The fact that they had to explain how it happened after it happened further stressed how we didn't see enough beforehand. I get that they wanted it to be a big reveal of Jack's powers..but we were already seeing that he had some..so it wasn't as huge of a surprise. I did get really emotional when the boys were getting beaten up...esp when they linked arms to support each other to stand up again. Oh and I was so angry that we got freaking Lucifer when we thought we were getting Cas!! 🤬😡 And I was also upset that we didn't see Dean immediately ask Jack if he could bring Cas back, or Sam ask about Eileen. 🙁 But we have one more ep so who knows what could happen? We had so many completely unnecessary MoTW episodes this season, that I think could have been used to really flesh out and dive deeper into s15 story arc. I guess it sounds like I'm just hating on this episode ...and I'm not trying to. But, every other season's finale of beating random monsters or whatever seemed way bigger than beating GOD...and I feel like it should have felt bigger...more tense, etc. And it didn't feel that way for me. I had no clue when watching live what to expect from the last episode since the montage really made this feel like a series finale for me. I know they've said that this episode was the season finale and next episode is more of the series finale. I'm not going to say anything more about the next episode because I don't want to give anything away. Just that I am very much looking forward to your thoughts. I'm actually really excited for you to do a series rewatch. I know my opinions on certain things really changed or grew stronger after seeing everything...and on rewatch I was like...omg this is so obvious! lol Thank you for all you do, Shelley.💜🦋🌻

Kim Rigg

While I agree with what you have written - you did not have this view when you finished watching episode 19 so your comment is giving her an expectation that we did not have.

Karen Gauck

I went and looked at my Twiiter and apparently at the time I wasn't sure how I felt about this episode either, but the other stuff was all true for the immediately after feeling. 😂

Laurel

For your own sake, I'd advise against reading any of the comment section until after you've seen the finale. Hopefully people will be mindful, but it would really suck for the finale to be spoiled for you because of someone's errant remark.

rose mnor

I'm gonna follow Hasnaa's recommendation and make a full disclosure in my post here with a disclaimer that I've blocked 2 commenters, so they can't see my posts anymore, for my own peace and mental well-being. Now - S15E19 Inherit the Earth When I first watched this episode, I felt kinda empty at the end there when they touched very little on what happened in the last episode. I mean the last Act and the end scene of the previous episode was the climax of more than a year's plot arc, so .... only at the beginning and then nothing at the end when Jack became the next God. I kept waiting for Dean to request Jack to return Cas, and Sam to ask about Eileen as Sam was very much upset about Eileen's safety, but there wasn't any, and I just .... felt baffled, but hey, we still have one more episode to go ... there's still hope, right? Okay Shelley, regardless of what happens next episode, I know one thing we can all be happy about is that we'll never have to experience this anxiety over this show again. We may love it or we may hate it, but either way, we'll definitively *know*.

BexFangirl

The last bit from the talk Dean and Sam have with Jack on until the end of the ep. always makes me cry (well I've now watched the ep twice, but I cried both times XD).

rose mnor

Dean: S13E01 "We lost everything and now you’re gonna bring him back’ … the implications … Dean: S15E18 "... but, first, you got to put everything back the way it was. The people, the birds, Cas. You got to bring him back.’" Dean’s face when his PHONE RANG AND IT SAID CAS (okay fine it said Cass, shut up). Look at how fast Dean went for the door. I hated that they made the Cas fakeout call ... but let’s think about the FACT that Lucifer knew Cas’s voice would get Dean off his ass and up the stairs. Cas -- the SINGLE incarnation of this character across all the universes simply fails to do what he was told. He is the angel who fell in love with humanity, who let humanity change him, because of the love he saw in Dean Winchester -- a man who spent the last 15 seasons believing he was broken, poison, nothing more than a weapon or a killer, who ruined everything he touched including this angel. Dean stares a defeated God in the face and uses Cas’s words to him as a shield against any lingering doubts that he doesn’t have control over his own fate. Dean wants to be the man Cas sees him as. He wants to be the man Cas loves. He wants to uphold Cas’s idea of him through his actions. I wished they'd made this obvious in the scene. I was a little peeved that they'd seemed to move on from Cas real quick and practically forgotten him at the end of this episode.

rose mnor

Chuck, being a powerless human being with no other recourse against cosmic forces and reality is the PERFECT end for him. Killing him would’ve been too damn easy. Chuck was defeated but not killed because Dean is more than a blunt instrument. For Chuck, humanity was the ultimate punishment. But for Cas, the angel who broke the mold, it would be the ultimate reward. For Chuck, the ultimate punishment, the worst thing they could do to him -- far worse than instant death-- was to render him utterly powerless. He’d cosplayed as a human for a very long time, superficially exploring his creation while retaining complete control over it. Lucifer was right about God. God wanted things his way and raged when someone/thing defied him. And in the end, God lost what he clung to: his power, his dominance, his relevance. It is poetic that Chuck first appeared as a seemingly human, bumbling writer and ended up becoming exactly that. He had fun in his Chuck guise and was left with it. He was no longer the god he was pretending not to be, he was now the guy he always wanted to be, or presented himself as, and now he's not happy.

Lucrecia Queen

Yes tell them shelley!!! Also relate to the anger after Lucifer showed up lol

rose mnor

Jack has reclaimed that power-- having experienced true humanity for himself and what the loss of that humanity had truly changed in him- - and then having his humanity restored to feel the weight of his own actions... yeah, Jack understands completely, and has finally restored the balance that Chuck should’ve done but never has. Jack had a true self-reflection, and the way Cas did that brought him to the point where he fully understood his own love, and what it means to truly care about people. Jack loving the earth and being “hands-off” but in every drop of rain, free will can be had with a loving god who wouldn’t interfere with the choice. Michael's characterization. What was the point of redeeming him and making him an ally in the first half of season 15, just to throw all of that down the drain and inexplicably change who he is in the last two episodes ... He is one of the most important figures in the story but his personality is inconsistent and his development is ruined I think most of the change we’ve seen in him since he returned from the cage was implied to have been directly the result of his bond or his partnership with Adam, because of that decade of being stuck together in the cage with only each other for company. If it was his care for Adam that actually inspired any of his rebellion or willingness to side with the Winchesters at all, the bond was clearly not all that strong if zapping Adam out of Michael had been enough for Michael to revert to his previous state. Which ... lines up spectacularly well with pretty much everything we know about angels in canon -- at least angels not named Castiel. Without Adam, Michael lacked the spark of humanity and free will that he’d developed during his bond with Adam. And without Adam in there with him to reason with him, it didn’t take long for him to go right back to Chuck’s loyal service. This makes Cas all the more special in comparison, so I really appreciate it for that, too. I mean... it took SO MUCH for Cas to break free of that and truly understand himself. Seriously, Cas’s entire character arc is one of the most fascinating explorations of a character. And he did all of that having been created to be as obedient and incurious as Michael.

BunkerGirl

@Helen I think that your comment may be leading her expectations which she asked us not to do. She specifically said please don't comment with anything that we did not know before watching the finale. We didn't know of fan reactions, or what might happen with jack in the finale etc. Maybe edit your comment to remove that for her sake?

Pntngbrn

I started for the most part skipping reading other people's comments around season 13. The problem is there are factions in this fandom, many toxic and extremely opinionated. I see one right now that the poster should not have written. Everyone wants to rewrite this show based on how they want things to go. And whatever that would be would probably suck.

Purple Nurple

I’m just trying to justify having Lucifer there haha! Since we almost all hate having him show up - especially in that way

Purple Nurple

Yes please delete the leading comment. Maybe save that for next episodes comment section

Purple Nurple

I think she briefly mentioned it in her ‘what’s coming’ video. But I accidentally labelled it ‘the road so far’ so that’s what she said (the road so far is another featurette lol)

Purple Nurple

Agree - there’ll be a few exceptions but I think 99% of the fandom agrees lol

Helen Wood

My comment gave nothing away at all, but I'm tired of being attacked here, so I will delete it anyway.

Helen Wood

Got attacked (again) for expressing an opinion, so removed it. Was going to stick around for the rewatch, but the abuse I get here is just too much, so this is where I leave. The negativity on here is frankly ridiculous. I was already driven off the discord.

rose mnor

Shelley, appreciate what you talked about in the beginning portion of your reaction. I mean, using Jensen and Jared to negate the show's arc for one of the OTHER main players ... the claim that the Js' opinions are the only relevant ones, rubbed me the wrong way ... I have more than enough respect for Jared and Jensen's roles in this show but, as a FAN of the show, I certainly can critique their understanding of the show's canon, not to mention their takeaways of the plot arcs and other characters' motivations. They already openly admitted on stage that they didn't watch the whole 327 episodes much less repeated watching of said episodes like us fans ... and most importantly, imo, they 100% certainly don't know the contribution of OTHER characters' full arcs as a whole that made the series became what it is today. And I certainly don't want to expose how shortsighted the Js' takeaways can be as we can point to where they missed specific canons or details, much less interpret a nuanced reading of OTHER characters (as I had written in my comments in the last reaction video), which is, therefore, I don't understand why we have to rely on Jared and/or Jensen as the ultimate authority as some people had claimed ...

Kim Rigg

Helen - my comment was in no way an attack just feedback from one lover of this silly show to another. I am genuinely sorry if you have been attacked in the past - everyone is entitled to their opinion. I do however think that the bad behaviour of a few can make us all slightly sensitive sometimes - me included. Take care

Christopher simeon

Been awhile since I commented but I wanted to say I wasn't really a fan of this episode. If I were a writer I would have actually had dean and Sam say yes to Micheal and Lucifer and like in the season 13 finale have Sam and dean in control fighting God. They use all their strength and get beat up just like they did here. God kills Micheal and Lucifer for their betrayal (similar to amara when she attacked Lucifer) but they at least get redemption. The jack power plan then makes a lot more sense because a big battle happens in front of him and God would actually be weaken from the fight. (Can you believe they think that small fight in the bunker would have caused the apocalypse) Leaving chuck alive is stupid. He could do many things like use magic or make a deal with a demon etc so I don't get it unless jack is stopping him from doing those things. My theory is that this last episode was Chuck's retirement plan. He wanted to become human and created jack story in season 12 as his replacement so he did all this to finally rest. He said that he never knew how to write his defeat so he let Sam and dean do it. Now Sam and dean story is completely their own.

BunkerGirl

ooohhh I really like that idea of them saying yes and fighting, And Michael's comment about not battling like that in centuries??? lol omg. Ridiculous. He took one power shot from lucy and then stabbed him once. Some "battle."

contrapasso

Jack’s short life is such a tragedy in many ways. I never liked this ending for him personally. And yeah, the Cas fake out with Lucifer was particularly cruel and lame. But that’s bucklemming for ya.

Amye Sabin

I may have said something slightly spoilery last episode, and I am sorry for that. Re-watching Shelley's reaction to 15.18, I can only say that I must've mistook Shelley's oomments about that being Cas's ending and how it feels like his finale, as fact and made a mention about Misha. I should've clarified that doesn't mean CAS's ending. Again, I do apologize. As far as Chuck goes, it's my fanon that he becomes a French mercenary and killer and goes on to kill our beloved Detective Douche. This was an underwhelming season finale. I basically hated S15 and put it just barely above S7. However, that doesn't mean I hate the Finale.

Purple Nurple

Helen - please don't feel it was an attack. It was just a comment that was creeping into spoiler territory for Shelley. It may not have been detailed, but it would have created an expectation about the final episode.

Purple Nurple

I know. It wasn't exactly a battle Michael lol. But I guess the cage made him soft lol

Susan Stork

I actually really love this episode, but I can understand how others might not. I love the scene between jack and the boys at the end, and that Montage always gets me! I also want to apologize if I ever said anything rude or hateful against anyone else in these comments or Shelley. That is never my intent. I love this show, and love that others do as well. I also love that we don't agree on episodes/characters/storylines; because that would be incredibly boring if we did. I appreciate you, Shelley, for watching this show and getting as into it as you did. I also appreciate everyone else here and their comments, especially funny ones as they always give me a chuckle. So, as Dean would say, "son of a bitch", we're at the END!!

Ali Jacome

It is a declaration of Love even Misha, Richard and the writer said: it's an homosexual declaration of love!!!! The people that don't want to believe that it's because they have never seen the video where the cast and Richard been the director had after 15x18. Even everyone there said they knew Cas loved Dean like that. So, who ever wants to be in another world, the can but is not the original intention of the scene.

SKK

I only read two or three comments on last episode bc I'm a chicken who's not great with conflict (even if it's not aimed at me but at the show or at others), so I apologize to everyone and Shelley if there's anything more or less I could've said to better maintain cordiality and/or plot ignorance. That said… I’m probably still gonna be a chicken and try to avoid areas of strong feeling 😜 So I apologize again in advance to everyone. Just assume I respect and wish you well. ------------- About this episode, I felt a little conflicted and underwhelmed too because it was very *neat,* but I’ve felt that way about series finales before — and it felt a bit as though it was written like a series finale — so I let it go and allowed Netflix autoplay to resolve my feelings. That montage still gets me, though. Still tearing up today like “I love all these stupid characters! 😩 I love this stupid show! 😭😭😭” ETA: Lucifer. I get it, but no.

Luis Nov

I remember reading somewhere (but dont quote me on that) that this episode was the season finale and the next one is the series finale

YazH

I relate to a lot of your reaction to this episode, Shelley...I did notice the Covid effect on some of the scenes, too to be honest - sometimes where the actors are standing in a scene felt different. But I think they managed pretty darn well, overall in that crazy time. And I ended up in tears from the scene when Chuck is beating the crap out of the boys on the beach onwards. And that was the first time that has happened for me, so thank you for that! :) The way Sam and Dean kept fighting and helping each other up ...Winchesters! Brothers! Screw Chuck! Yes! Anyway, one more to go!

Dilek

Lucifer always used the same trick to manipulate someone. He seemed to them like the love of their lives that they had lost. He manipulated Nick with his wife, Sam with his Jess, Dean with his Cass.

Josh Poulton

Yeah I'm with Shelly. All of you mother Fuckers wanted to chime In and get excited and spoil stuff for her. Just stfu. Nobody gives a fuck about you. It's Shelly's reaction that we care about.. not yours

vita

Purple Nurple

You mentioned being asked to delete comments. So why are you giving your opinion on the final ep when she hasn’t seen it yet? Please amend it.

Stephanie Butler

I'm not gonna comment on the episode cause I think that would be hard without implying spoilers and I don't want to do that. I do think that since they filmed it months after the last one and with the Covid circumstances, they all felt a little detached. But I will say that you saying holy ghost after father, son made me laugh hysterically for some reason. And all I think watching this is the random things they did whilst quarantining before filming. Jake in Quarantine is hysterical (he made a move in his hotel room) among other things so worth checking them out.

vita

Duck

Was it made clear here? There is a whole nother episode left. Anything can happen in that episode as far as Shelley is concerned. This is the kind of comment Shelley was talking about -- I know you don't mean to be spoilery, but you are implying something about the next episode with your comments on this one.

Michelle Denny

Love the way you explained your thoughts on the whole division that goes on in the fandom. Personally, I don’t contribute to it one way or another. I just enjoy hearing everyone’s thoughts on the episodes and it gets my wheels turning and like you said, it may help me realize that there was something there I didn’t see on my own. The only thing I cannot abide is when people argue to the point of being hurtful, that’s when I am out. I get one life to live and I don’t want negativity to be a part of it. All of us in this crazy fandom can have our thoughts and opinions even if they don’t go along with the consensus. What you feel is real, but you cannot make someone else feel like you do, we all come from different backgrounds and experiences so let’s be respectful.

Amye Sabin

I agree re: fan service. Other than Jensen actually singin in that one episode, all of the other fan service moments either pissed me off or annoyed me.

Amye Sabin

I just watched a 2019 panel where they said they did watch almost all the episodes, maybe not as they aired though. Because as jared put it, watching it as a whole enhanced the story. They don't see the viewpoints of the other characters, the CGI, or hear the inserted sounds as they are filming, so both claimed that it really helped them to understand the story by watching the episodes. Jensen, in fact said he could count on one hand the episodes he's NOT seen.

Amye Sabin

Dabb mentioned that before either even aired.

Amye Sabin

I heard NONE of that rigamarole about the cast and crew. If that were the case why is the show still in the top 10 on Netflix, still raking in new fans, and still very popular with fans & cast on the Convention circuit. And please, if you have an opinion about the last episode, let's let it play out for Shelley, okay?

rose mnor

Yeah as time passes by I would think they would have watched it all since now they have the time to see the show. But when on stage they were asked their opinion at that particular time, they haven't yet I don't think. If they did already then good for them. Not being nitpicky, but the issue at hand that I am very particular about is them giving interpretations of another character's arc, not them having yet to see all episodes. Plus they won't remember the canon of the show like us even if they saw the whole thing, and getting the nuance reading of the characters' plot arcs. I don't know whether you knew which specific canon-breaking I was referring to in my above comment, but if you don't, it's about the Denvercon 2021 the last question that sparked such a debacle, because of Jared and Jensen missing such canon details to then willfully misinterpret Cas's confession as platonic, on stage, by saying Cas is junkless and human (read: Dean) doesn't understand angel's love, among other things which were too heavy and complicated to be written by me here. Both of them forgot about Balthazar, Lucifer, Gabriel, Anna, and Seraphina who were such sexually active angels and I can't remember who else. And Dean just witnessed both Seraphina and Adam making out in front of him and Jack in Unity. So what does that say about Dean, did he really not understand Seraphina's love towards Adam? Or is it just ONLY Cas's love towards him that he doesn't get? Most importantly, what does that say about fans who wanted to rely on both Js to be the ultimate authority? (Sidenote: I had written a lot more in my previous Despair comment about the same issue).

AdoptDontShopPets

A fan content has been made that includes Jake in Quarantine

rose mnor

... about that baboon thing, I think you are referring to Andrew Dabb's tweet during quarantine time? If yes, just to let you know, he was writing about Resident Evil, and I saw fans connecting that tweet to that show, which he was going to show run when the borders opened after the pandemic at that time. So you misunderstood there, it was not directed to us SPN fandom. Dabb's Twitter is protected so no source to link here. ETA: I found the link to tumblr that were discussing his tweet. I got a bit of the details wrong, which was the timing. He tweeted it after the series finale aired. Having said that, the convo about that tweet was about how he normally uses Twitter for promotional reasons. https://www.tumblr.com/aphony-cree/635786518625206272/dabb-uses-twitter-exclusively-to-tease-his

Michele

Hi. I haven't commented in a bit. I felt that my constant complaining was not helpful. I'm m very opinionated about this show, but it's because I love it. Anyway. So sorry you've been getting so many suggestive comments. Probably best to not read any comments until after watching the final episode. I felt similarly to you about this ep. As the Season finale it felt a bit odd. The resolution seemed rushed. I would have liked more development of Javks absorbing powers shown. It took me a bit to understand what happened. About Despair. All I'll say is that 8beoulf have liked that scene between Cas and Dean to have been longer. That all felt rushed too. It 2as beautiful and deserved more screen time to happen, given how long Cas's deal had been resting, in the background, and speculated upon.

Jay

Haha yes! I remember discovering how hilarious Jake Abel is and wishing Adam/Michael had been in the series more.

Amye Sabin

LOL if you base things off IMDB then I'm sorry you're so limited on social contact. IMDB is 99% of complainers and trolls. EVERY.SINGLE.PERSON that has gone to a Con that I have contact with (over 100) has explained how lovely everyone is. Do they have bad days? Yes. Don't we all? There is not ONE iota of proof of what you're trying to pass on. And BTW, expressing how you feel about the finale IS SPOILERY.

Amye Sabin

I'm not sure when the question you were referring to was asked, but the Con I just watched (two days ago in fact) was when they just started filming Ep 1 of S15. And Jensen specifically said at that time he had seen all but a handful. Now, as to S15, I know Jared & Misha have seen the Finale, but don't know about the rest. ETA: It's so sad watching all these 2019 Con vids with them talking about all they're going to do in the next year, either in regards to the show or to Cons or in their personal lives, knowing what was gearing up to rear it's ugly head over in Asia.

Jay

Ah I love Shelley's reactions so much! I enjoyed this episode so much more on rewatching it but agree with a lot of other comments that it feels a bit underwhelming. Love the direction of John Showalter though, especially the bleakness of the first part, when everything has gone - and that dizzying shot at the start when the camera pulls out from an overhead view of the winchesters and jack into a view of earth from space.

Jay

"I'm m very opinionated about this show, but it's because I love it" - perfectly put! Think that's true for so many of us.

Luis Nov

I know you have a lot on your plate, but I would be down for a livestream if you want/can after you finish the show, have a little chat with all would be interesting

Hasnaa

Finally I am able to re sub and comment, it's been so tough. I forget to mention last episode that the fandom raised over 100,000 dollars to the trevor project ( an LGBTQ+ youth charity organizations) in honor of CAS's love declaration and Misha saw it and was very touched, pretty cool, right! Now on to this episode: I knew we were fucked when I learned that buckleming were writing the season finale and dabb was writing the series finale, this episode is fast paced and lots of things don't make sense as usual for buckleming episodes, why are they giving Sam the book to try to translate enochian when Michael is literally right there, he can read enochian! Why did dean demanded chuck to bring back cas but didn't even ask jack??? Chuck was able to get lucifer out of the empty so clearly god does have control over the empty and can get angels and demons out so why on earth wouldn't dean at least ask jack?!! How dare they cas fake us out with lucifer of all characters ugh, the only upside to that mean move is that lucifer only comes to people as their dead significant other when he's trying to make them let him in, he came to Nick as Sara (his wife) in 5x01, he came to Sam as Jessica in 5x04, he came to Vince Vincente as his dead wife and now for dean he pretended to be cas to let him in, a beautiful parallel but is it worth the pain? You decide. And of course CAS dies and dean is immediately drowning himself in alcohol blacking out on the floor sleeping on an empty bottle, I am gonna die. The only moment I love from this episode is when chuck said to dean "to die at the hands of dean Winchester, the ultimate killer" dean responded with "that's not who I am" coz that's CAS's words!!!! They really got through to him and now he doesn't think of himself as a killer anymore coz CAS told him that that's not who he is, he's a loving person 🥺😭 still I would've preferred them killing chuck, even if he's just human he has so much knowledge that he can cause lots of damage, he can do spells, he knows secrets about the universe we don't know. I too don't like that jack appearantly needs to fuck off now that he's god, I want him to be with his family.

CrystalDeth

Holy bad whiplash, Buck! Nothing made sense, changes direction to the point of being boring on top of already being BORING and capping it off with a Cas/Lucifer fake out was a spit in the face. Miracle the dog was the best part of this episode! Especially after those epic 'battle' scenes.

CrystalDeth

So much emotional blackmail this season especially all the twists in character actions that strain logic to then give us a crushing Cas fake out and losing Jack since he just moves on to be a toddler god after dying a few times. But hey, that's family right...?